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post 1642709163 07-12-2021, 06:13 PM
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went into VPER today for a couple hundy k shares, smart city stinky pinky stonk, could do well running to a dime soon.
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah
with the way China-Taiwan relations are looking, and with how much China has been increasing the size of their military, I think there should be good upward pressure on our defense budget (srs)
How are their relations looking? And based on what.
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Originally Posted By lntense
How are their relations looking? And based on what.
have you actually not seen any news on China planning to reclaim Taiwan, sending fighter jets back and forth along the Taiwan Strait to flex their muscles, etc? I thought this was common knowledge, but just google China Taiwan Relations and read the news related to it

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/01/taiw...ification.html

this is also why the US is so concerned with the semiconductor shortage and why it is a national security concern... TSMC won't be making chips for AMD and NVIDIA once they are reunified with China

edit: more fun charts (srs)



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I think the main reason we get involved in so many wars is just to practice. China wouldn't stand a chance in conventional warfare, but they could do some srs damage, no doubt.

Conventional warfare is probably a past time though. Wouldn't be surprised if they're doing a lot of the cyber attacks. They're already beating us to a pulp on several fronts. A lot of Americans still don't realize it.
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Originally Posted By _zman
I think the main reason we get involved in so many wars is just to practice. China wouldn't stand a chance, but they could do some srs damage, no doubt.

Conventional warfare is probably a past time though. Wouldn't be surprised if they're doing a lot of the cyber attacks. They're already beating us to a pulp on several fronts. A lot of Americans still don't realize it.
That is definitely true. If you think about real world skirmishes that the US military has experience with versus China, the US is definitely much stronger per capita due to tactical experience

and not just cyber warfare either, but trade warfare. China is vehemently opposed to free trade and uses trade agreements (putting tariffs on Australian imports after Australia banned Huawei products, for example) to punish other countries in a way that most people are oblivious to. They can inflict serious damage on a nation without the general public even realizing what is going on. Don't even get me started on what they're doing in Africa and South America, either (srs)

You can tell just from the military spending data that they are clearly up to something... wonder what
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah
That is definitely true. If you think about real world skirmishes that the US military has experience with versus China, the US is definitely much stronger per capita due to tactical experience

and not just cyber warfare either, but trade warfare. China is vehemently opposed to free trade and uses trade agreements (putting tariffs on Australian imports after Australia banned Huawei products, for example) to punish other countries in a way that most people are oblivious to. They can inflict serious damage on a nation without the general public even realizing what is going on. Don't even get me started on what they're doing in Africa and South America, either (srs)

You can tell just from the military spending data that they are clearly up to something... wonder what
I read a little bit on what they've been up to. They've been doing a ton of war exercises, that I know for sure for quite some time. Just flexing maybe? Being more prepared like we do?

I also know they subsidize a lot of industries, same as we do, but they do it on things like steel, just to undercut us. I've heard they ship it through Mexico to avoid tariffs. They even rip off companies with patent stamps on really important bits of steel used on cranes and such. Steel parts fail all the time leading to some pretty bad construction accidents. Obviously each accident is investigated, then the vendors would let us know what to look out for.

They rip off everything, luxury goods, steel products, laptops, phones, shoes. It's very common for them to go into business with Americans and steal all their patents and tell em to fuk off. WSJ had some articles about that. A lot of the cyber attacks occur just to steal data from American corporations to learn how they do business so they can up their game.

The Chinese are so far ahead of us. If people think politicians and businesses in American are unethical, they have nothing on the way China handles business.
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post 1642725093 07-12-2021, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted By _zman
They rip off everything, luxury goods, steel products, laptops, phones, shoes. It's very common for them to go into business with Americans and steal all their patents and tell em to fuk off. WSJ had some articles about that. A lot of the cyber attacks occur just to steal data from American corporations to learn how they do business so they can up their game.
This is true. I had a professor who was a Boeing Cybersecurity Admin and he went into detail about how they would constantly get actors on their network trying to steal classified data
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Originally Posted By _zman
I read a little bit on what they've been up to. They've been doing a ton of war exercises, that I know for sure for quite some time. Just flexing maybe? Being more prepared like we do?

I also know they subsidize a lot of industries, same as we do, but they do it on things like steel, just to undercut us. I've heard they ship it through Mexico to avoid tariffs. They even rip off companies with patent stamps on really important bits of steel used on cranes and such. Steel parts fail all the time leading to some pretty bad construction accidents. Obviously each accident is investigated, then the vendors would let us know what to look out for.

They rip off everything, luxury goods, steel products, laptops, phones, shoes. It's very common for them to go into business with Americans and steal all their patents and tell em to fuk off. WSJ had some articles about that. A lot of the cyber attacks occur just to steal data from American corporations to learn how they do business so they can up their game.

The Chinese are so far ahead of us. If people think politicians and businesses in American are unethical, they have nothing on the way China handles business.
How can they possible be ahead of us, they are a culture of copying things and not making them better, just cheaper, they are taking over Africa but still can’t create their own buildings that don’t fall apart, just copy what someone else did but with inferior materials.

China is far less ethical than anywhere else, they will cut down the last tree if it meant $5 in their pocket or .0000000001% more gdp growth. They are cutting fins off millions of sharks for what, is that what someone superior does?
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post 1642737923 07-13-2021, 05:45 AM
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yo Intense those puts on amc have been printing nonstop lol

there was a spike in a couple indexes before closing yesterday... big money getting in imho before good news??? I got me some spy calls for this week - let see how it plays out
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post 1642739453 07-13-2021, 06:20 AM
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whoever is in this play = congratulations!

EARNINGS: Goldman Sachs reports a massive beat on the top and bottom lines.
-EPS: $15.02, vs. $10.24 est.
-Revenue: $15.39 billion, vs. $12.17 billion est.
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post 1642740723 07-13-2021, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted By camaleom
whoever is in this play = congratulations!

EARNINGS: Goldman Sachs reports a massive beat on the top and bottom lines.
-EPS: $15.02, vs. $10.24 est.
-Revenue: $15.39 billion, vs. $12.17 billion est.
Question is how much of this has been pRiCeD iN, GS has legit doubled since October 2020

So much of the market is already valued on crazy earnings growth
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absolutely - you gotta be in the play months ahead of time or you will miss the train
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah
have you actually not seen any news on China planning to reclaim Taiwan, sending fighter jets back and forth along the Taiwan Strait to flex their muscles, etc? I thought this was common knowledge, but just google China Taiwan Relations and read the news related to it

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/07/01/taiw...ification.html

this is also why the US is so concerned with the semiconductor shortage and why it is a national security concern... TSMC won't be making chips for AMD and NVIDIA once they are reunified with China

edit: more fun charts (srs)



I’ve been keeping up with it. But I haven’t heard of anything new. I don’t think China will go to war with Taiwan. The rest of the world wouldn’t allow it. And if China does decide to then that will probably be a huge mistake.
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You're buying the dip on AMC
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Originally Posted By MinisterOfLust
You're buying the dip on AMC
I am. Not going to lie. Bought some at $40
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sold my puts at 39 - let see how the rest of the day plays out for amc
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Bought XELA last week, now it is printing

MRIN and BLIN are doing great as well.
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Suncor is the biggest turd ever fuk that stock
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Originally Posted By SipNPiz
How can they possible be ahead of us, they are a culture of copying things and not making them better, just cheaper, they are taking over Africa but still can’t create their own buildings that don’t fall apart, just copy what someone else did but with inferior materials.

China is far less ethical than anywhere else, they will cut down the last tree if it meant $5 in their pocket or .0000000001% more gdp growth. They are cutting fins off millions of sharks for what, is that what someone superior does?
It's because it's a Chinese government funded program, basically.

Imagine if US corporations shared their classified data amongst each other. That's what the Chinese govt does. They steal American business data and feed it to Chinese corporations that they subsidize, fund and are involved with.

Take a highly innovative company in the US, say Lockheed Martin or in a real world case Honeywell. Neither of those companies are going to share any of that data willingly, but if the Chinese get a hold of it, they can disperse it to multiple companies, group think and come up with something even better. In this case, Honeywell actually sold data to the Chinese. If they can't steal it, they will buy it, even if it's illegal for an American company to sell it. Because ethics don't exist there.

It's no different than cheating on a tough math based test in college. If I could see everyone's answers or how they got to an answer, I could ace the test pretty easily.

Also:

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Originally Posted By topperstyle
From what I’ve seen the short interest is down bigly. Rip
15.38% this morning, even if it’s accurate I wouldn’t consider that bigly
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Suncor is the biggest turd ever fuk that stock
I agree, I hold ~30 oil stocks but no SU lol.
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Damn, portfolio's been wasting away from these bad past few trades... CUBT and VIAC are the only things keeping it solvent, and they haven't even moved up that much lmao. fuk
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Originally Posted By Venom08
Damn, portfolio's been wasting away from these bad past few trades... CUBT and VIAC are the only things keeping it solvent, and they haven't even moved up that much lmao. fuk
But who was high cap tech?

That's keeping me green while CHPT is pegging me
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lol
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Originally Posted By Venom08
Damn, portfolio's been wasting away from these bad past few trades... CUBT and VIAC are the only things keeping it solvent, and they haven't even moved up that much lmao. fuk
Goldman Sachs still going under tho right?
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Originally Posted By Harry362
Suncor is the biggest turd ever fuk that stock
take a look at mmat lmao 21 to 3.50 in like a week
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Who the fuk has XELA

Fuk
Originally Posted By RobParks2M
Goldman Sachs still going under tho right?
I do remember this lol
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AAPL

will the breakout hold?
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Originally Posted By Comply_or_Die
AAPL

will the breakout hold?
I think it will keep running up, its been stuck for 6 months
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Originally Posted By dopamine72
I think it will keep running up, its been stuck for 6 months
Yep it was stagnant at $120 for the longest.

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