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Thread: ‘whistleblowers’ inside CDC claim injections have already killed 50,000 Americans

post 1642769563 07-13-2021, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted By low_clazz⏩
Vaccination trust is highest among upper middle class and the ruling class...if you think the so called "elite" want them gone, you're about as dumb as a jar of pickles.

If there's a conspiracy, the more likely scenario is to vaccinate the ones you want to keep and then release a virus that wipes out the unvaccinated poor populations and other non conforming less desirables.
LOL, I've heard this as well...that these vaccines aren't actually for covid, but for the next virus to be unleashed which will absolutely decimate all those unprotected.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Nobody is censoring anything. You're choosing to believe a lone fringe voice with no evidence because he's telling you what you desperately want to believe. TSadly, nothing you do will ever change the truth. If this fringe voice seeks redemption, he must win in the arena of science and not that of public opinion. He must do careful experiments, corroborate his theory under extensive attempts to falsify it, and ultimately emerge vindicated by the evidence. He has not done this. Good scientists win in the arena of science, not public opinion.
Indeed.
Originally Posted By katya422⏩
The censorship is such total BS.

There was a group on FB w/120K members that was gaining 10K members a week and FB deleted the group.

It was called “COVID-19 VACCINE VICTIMS AND FAMILIES”.

https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/04/27...ine-reactions/
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
Indeed.
******** is not the scientific community. That doctor is free to do experiments and publish his work.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Just LOL. Imagine being this deluded.
Yeah... is crazy to me. They’d probably been trying tj justify some sort of sale or high price to it...

Or at least I imagine that’s what they thought... though I mean of course so many dems are mad at me, for the anti Covid... investigation **** of course

Though? As if I think that anyone would allow what the whole of the world desperately wants tj end up being negatively influenced by some pissed off democrats and their puppets in law enforcement? ✝️ Who’s gonna run it? If I die? May happen anyways but?

Irrelevant of course to me, as I’m not one tj be easily persuaded into believing nonsense...

I’m also very well aware that any further use of their labs/company? Would not only cease tj continue?

But that they’ll all go to jail and they know it. For life.


50...
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Originally Posted By pantiespending⏩
Okay, that sounds like a reasonable idea tj me? Straight through?

Bd? Tell you what I want though? Beyond the ability to go ahead and print everythjbg that I want?

Except there is one problem here 5, end of the discussion.... jobs...

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For now....

14-16.
If I wanted to spin up a really juicy conspiracy theory around the vaccine I would tie it in to the recent release of information around UFOs by the US government.

- aliens have been in contact with world leadership
- the spike protein is a marker/opening for the aliens
- high level people reportedly ill with COVID really weren't

BRB aliens can "smell" the spike protein

or

BRB spike protein makes human flesh digestible for aliens



j/k
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post 1642770003 07-13-2021, 02:12 PM
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Misc anti-vax schizos at it again

If it's a bio weapon and the vaccine is a bioweapon, it's a pretty terrible one considering how few deaths there are.
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post 1642770123 07-13-2021, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Just LOL. Imagine being this deluded.
wow
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
Misc anti-vax schizos at it again

If it's a bio weapon and the vaccine is a bioweapon, it's a pretty terrible one considering how few deaths there are.
Not endorsing that itisa bioweapon, but the theory in the video is that COVID-19 was stage 1 and not really that bad, but made to be a very big thing, then the vaccine is stage 2 and is a push to get the spike protein into all the humans.

Doctor didn't speculate re: stage 3 so far that I have noticed.
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post 1642770263 07-13-2021, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Not endorsing that itisa bioweapon, but the theory in the video is that COVID-19 was stage 1 and not really that bad, but made to be a very big thing, then the vaccine is stage 2 and is a push to get the spike protein into all the humans.

Doctor didn't speculate re: stage 3 so far that I have noticed.
That's still a pretty terrible bioweapon considering the death rate of people vaccinated is really, really, really small. The blog OP links to has a bunch of other batchit insane claims in other posts, too.
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post 1642770393 07-13-2021, 02:18 PM
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but wincel said it's safe
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Originally Posted By anonkunbrah⏩
but wincel said it's safe
Yes, lets listen to a schizophrenic blog for medical advice
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post 1642770643 07-13-2021, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
He also did careful experiments, corroborated his theory under extensive attempts to falsify it, and ultimately emerged vindicated by the evidence.
I didn't. The medical commmunity, which you seem so eager to discard, did.
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Shall we do a misc survey? I’ve had mine and am still alive so that’s a 100% survival rate so far.
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Originally Posted By EdwardTheGreat⏩
LOL, I've heard this as well...that these vaccines aren't actually for covid, but for the next virus to be unleashed which will absolutely decimate all those unprotected.
Makes sense. If you’re going to get rid of anyone, it would logically be the problematic ones you can’t easily manipulate.

The tinfoil hat in me imagines a future scenario where a severely dangerous strain with a high mortality is intentionally released, leaving the non-conformists to scramble for a vaccine and many to die. Imagine all of the amount of “I told you so” and mocking you’d see everywhere. That’s the scariest part.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Here's food for thought:

If the vaccine really is a bioweapon designed to kill in the long term, how will pharma make money if people are dead?
It doesn't. Anti-vaxers in this thread are schizophrenic conspiracy theorists who barely passed high school science class who think they know more than scientists and doctors about a pandemic, so they leech onto a quack conspiracy theorist over the 99.9% of other doctors. It's even more stupid because the people who developed the vaccine got the vaccine themselves, as did their families. Then again, no one accused anti-vaxers of being good at logic
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
It doesn't. Anti-vaxers in this thread are schizophrenic conspiracy theorists who barely passed high school science class who think they know more than scientists and doctors about a pandemic, so they leech onto a quack conspiracy theorist over the 99.9% of other doctors. It's even more stupid because the people who developed the vaccine got the vaccine themselves, as did their families. Then again, no one accused anti-vaxers of being good at logic
negative iq.
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
It doesn't. Anti-vaxers in this thread are schizophrenic conspiracy theorists who barely passed high school science class who think they know more than scientists and doctors about a pandemic, so they leech onto a quack conspiracy theorist over the 99.9% of other doctors. It's even more stupid because the people who developed the vaccine got the vaccine themselves, as did their families. Then again, no one accused anti-vaxers of being good at logic
Pretty much this. It's honestly ridiculous. They will flock to a fringe scientist and believe him over the entire rest of the medical community, even when that guy provides no evidence. Also, all medical treatments carry with them some risk. This was an emergency so vaccines were authorized for emergency use. The fact that there are no long term studies should discourage no one from taking these vaccines. The long term studies would be nice to have, but are not essential in this emergency situation. We already have a good understanding of how the mrna vaccines are metabolized. There have already been many clinical trials, and the vaccines have been administered relatively safely to hundreds of millions of people. It is the unambiguous recommendation of the medical community at large to take the vaccines, in spite of whatever propaganda is posted here. There are multiple studies exploring the safety and efficacy of these vaccines. There have been some adverse events reported, but they are rare.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Pretty much this. It's honestly ridiculous. They will flock to a fringe scientist and believe him over the entire rest of the medical community, even when that guy provides no evidence. Also, all medical treatments carry with them some risk. This was an emergency so vaccines were authorized for emergency use. The fact that there are no long term studies should discourage no one from taking these vaccines. The long term studies would be nice to have, but are not essential in this emergency situation. We already have a good understanding of how the mrna vaccines are metabolized. There have already been many clinical trials, and the vaccines have been administered relatively safely to hundreds of millions of people.
How would you peasants even know what "real scientists" have to say? Are you friends with any? Do you have their whatsapp contact?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So are you going to link me to the study of the long term effects of mRNA vaccines?

Or point out a single mRNA vaccine that is approved by the FDA?

Or maybe, quote a post where I discredited the medical community?

Edit : At the very least, let us know which vaccine you took.
I took the Pfizer vaccine.
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Originally Posted By brosapiens⏩
How would you peasants even know what "real scientists" have to say?
Because I went to school.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Good boy, now the rest of the answers please.

Remember, we are looking for "careful experiments, corroborating the theory under extensive attempts to falsify it, and ultimately emerging vindicated by the evidence" that there are no chronic long term effects of mRNA vaccines.
You said at the very least.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Because I went to school.
So you met the "real scientists" working with Cv there? Did they confirm everything you're telling us here?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Please enlighten us with the manufacturing process of an mRNA vaccine, without googling it.
It's interesting that you always make demands and never deliver on any of mine. Quid pro quo.
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Originally Posted By brosapiens⏩
So you met the "real scientists" working with Cv there? Did they confirm everything you're telling us here?
We have this thing at universities called accreditation where you are required to meet a certain level of education. My education has enabled me to read the literature and understand who is bullchitting, who isn't, and what is undetermined. I can tell you that this guy is likely bullchitting. He might not be, but what he needs to do is go and publish his findings and convince the other scientists. He needs to have them critically analyze what he claims and look carefully at his studies. Since he hasn't even done any study on this, I see no evidence. That's why I simply asked for evidence. We have a lot of evidence that the vaccines are safe, as shown from the clinical trials. He's claiming the vaccines have killed over 50k people. That's quite a claim. He needs to show this from the data, and if there is some mechanism he has identified, such as bioaccumulation of the spike protein, he needs to demonstrate that somehow.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
So you got nothing - but that's not unexpected.

Thanks for playing, better luck next time!



There never were any, please feel free to quote yourself. Not that you ever delivered on any of mine - and you're supposed to be the intellectual.
Tell me your view on the covid 19 vaccines and if you have been vaccinated.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
We have this thing at universities called accreditation where you are required to meet a certain level of education. My education has enabled me to read the literature and understand who is bullchitting, who isn't, and what is undetermined. I can tell you that this guy is likely bullchitting. He might not be, but what he needs to do is go and publish his findings and convince the other scientists. He needs to have them critically analyze what he claims and look carefully at his studies. Since he hasn't even done any study on this, I see no evidence. That's why I simply asked for evidence. We have a lot of evidence that the vaccines are safe, as shown from the clinical trials. He's claiming the vaccines have killed over 50k people. That's quite a claim. He needs to show this from the data, and if there is some mechanism he has identified, such as bioaccumulation of the spike protein, he needs to demonstrate that somehow.
So by virtue of going to "school" you are now able to read the minds of "real scientists".
Ok, John Nash ..
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Originally Posted By brosapiens⏩
So by virtue of going to "school" you are now able to read the minds of the "real scientists".
Ok, John Nash ..
No. By virtue of going to school, I'm qualified to read and interpret the literature.
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I am not anti vac but I am not taking this one yet.
I do not think we have a vast conspiracy to purposely cause harm with it. But I do think it was rushed (understandable) and they are hiding the negative side effects to get people to take it
It is not possible to know the long term and all negative information is hidden/blacklisted.
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I don't think the vaccines were designed to be dangerous. There is no evidence of that.

But there is plenty of evidence that they were rushed, skipped animal testing, and have a disturbing spike protein profile days after the injection (concentrates in the ovaries and bone marrow).

It's just not been tested well enough. No need to force it when the disease it's treating has a 99.9% survival rate for a majority of the population.

I do think the end-game here is vaccine passports and a social credit system similar to China.
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Originally Posted By helpmee⏩
I am not anti vac but I am not taking this one yet.
I do not think we have a vast conspiracy to purposely cause harm with it. But I do think it was rushed (understandable) and they are hiding the negative side effects
It is not possible to know the long term and all negative information is hidden/blacklisted.
How are they hiding the negative effects when the CDC has compiled a giant list of adverse events and is monitoring them closely?

Why do you assume it isn't possible to know long term effects? Why can't we use theory from biology to predict what will happen, especially if we understand how the vaccine and its byproducts are metabolized? It would be ideal to have long term studies, but this was an emergency situation and the vaccines were needed early on. Nonetheless, they are by no means "unsafe".
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