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Vaccine-cels called me out for using this logic to not get it RIGHT NOW [srs wincel]

In a group with 3 vaccine-cels (virus tested negative, vaccinated and possibly pegged by their GFs) playing poker and here was my logic when they gasped "Why are you not vaccinated yet?":

So I told them simple math:

- 0.002% to get a blood clot from Astra-Zeneca (specifically for my age range) Source: EU Medicines Agency March 2021 data

- 0.0025% to get Covid with so bad side effects that I need hospital admission (generous because not adjusted for my age range) Source: Public Health England (where I live) July 2021 data

- I don't want to travel anywhere for the next 2 years and visit restaurants because I am busy with 3 side projects on top of interviewing for jobs

- dead serious about the above because I also live with a Chinese GF with amazing soft feet that rub me until I pop whenever I want

- based on the sentiments above the extra benefit chance is so low I want to wait;
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
Your logic is stupid because it’s not apples to apples and they yield entirely different outcomes.

That said, if you don’t want the vaccine, don’t get one. You don’t have to justify to anyone your decision, unless of course, you are insecure about it.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
more pics of Chinese GF?
Gee, IDK, don't have any pics but I do have a nice video.

Too bad I can't post it or rep you with an Imgur link to it (on spread).


If only it was somehow found on imgur.com followed by /a/1kSr1sa
Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
Your logic is stupid because it’s not apples to apples and they yield entirely different outcomes.
Can you elaborate on why the logic is stupid? Never did I say this is a good example.

There are many differences that can make this flawed but I never said it is flawless.


I just used it to showcase that risk is very similar for serious adverse events occurring from both sides.


There are many things bad about Covid that are bad enough probably without hospitals. But there might be also stuff about Astra-Zeneca that we do not know about.

Hence why due to my personal situation I think it worth waiting for more data and not rushing anything.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
In a group with 3 vaccine-cels (virus tested negative, vaccinated and possibly pegged by their GFs) playing poker and here was my logic when they gasped "Why are you not vaccinated yet?":

So I told them simple math:

- 0.002% to get a blood clot from Astra-Zeneca (specifically for my age range) Source: EU Medicines Agency March 2021 data

- 0.0025% to get Covid with so bad side effects that I need hospital admission (generous because not adjusted for my age range) Source: Public Health England (where I live) July 2021 data

- I don't want to travel anywhere for the next 2 years and visit restaurants because I am busy with 3 side projects on top of interviewing for jobs

- dead serious about the above because I also live with a Chinese GF with amazing soft feet that rub me until I pop whenever I want

- based on the sentiments above the extra benefit chance is so low I want to wait;
This thread is now about how you met your Chinese feet rubbing gf. FOB or born in America? I tried when I was in China. Most of them speak awful English like hardly comprehendible.
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i just use "religious reasons" when asked

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Personal grooming habits suggest not FOB.
I want a big titty FOB Chinese gf so bad. Can't find one

https://i.imgur.com/Zgh4cqg.jpg

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post 1642862693 07-14-2021, 06:52 PM
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[QUOTE=swoleyo post_id=1642860703]This thread is now about how you met your Chinese feet rubbing gf. FOB or born in America? I tried when I was in China. Most of them speak awful English like hardly comprehendible.[/QUOTE]FOB international student in London, UK -> we work in the same company.

[QUOTE=Anachron post_id=1642860843]Personal grooming habits suggest not FOB.[img]//assets.bodybuilding.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/img][/QUOTE]I see your logic and your logic is sound but lots of FOBs know "Westerners" are all about that trimmed/clean-shaven look so I have never had a FOB in London without at least trimmed.

[QUOTE=SouthDakotaBrah post_id=1642860933]i just use "religious reasons" when asked

post pics of gf's feet[/QUOTE]I have no pics of her feet as she works in the finance division so she works more hours than me and I stay over at hers like every weekend

but I slept with a British Korean (yes while dating the other girl) and I made a thread about it a few days ago, here is the pic of her body:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/UleInnd.jpeg[/img]

I can deliver proof that this is my bedroomm

followed by her feet:

[img]https://i.imgur.com/LieVY2L.jpg[/img]


FOBs actually are really surprised when I want to suck their feet; but missionary while her feet are pressed on my chest and I can kiss them makes me go HAAAAM and they love it probably tbh

[QUOTE=swoleyo post_id=1642860953]I want a big titty FOB Chinese gf so bad. Can't find one

[url]https://i.imgur.com/Zgh4cqg.jpg[url]
[/QUOTE]ironically, I have banged a FOB that had literally the same tit size and shape (with a perfect slim body) and another FOB that was flat-chested but with a similar pretty Chinese face

not both tho addmitedly
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
In a group with 3 vaccine-cels (virus tested negative, vaccinated and possibly pegged by their GFs) playing poker and here was my logic when they gasped "Why are you not vaccinated yet?":

So I told them simple math:

- 0.002% to get a blood clot from Astra-Zeneca (specifically for my age range) Source: EU Medicines Agency March 2021 data

- 0.0025% to get Covid with so bad side effects that I need hospital admission (generous because not adjusted for my age range) Source: Public Health England (where I live) July 2021 data

- I don't want to travel anywhere for the next 2 years and visit restaurants because I am busy with 3 side projects on top of interviewing for jobs

- dead serious about the above because I also live with a Chinese GF with amazing soft feet that rub me until I pop whenever I want

- based on the sentiments above the extra benefit chance is so low I want to wait;
That's some next level math when it's 6 people in one million and you're getting 0.002%. Off by several orders of magnitude.

So there's your answer. You have grossly overestimated your risk of blood clot.

And you don't take the vaccine just to protect yourself.
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Very nice OP on spread. Would suggest elongating your strokes though srs, asian sloots love long slow strokes especially if you have a big cawk. 7 X 5.5 checking in phuking tight joocy asian poocies hhnnggg.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That's some next level math when it's 6 people in one million and you're getting 0.002%. Off by several orders of magnitude.

So there's your answer. You have grossly overestimated your risk of blood clot.

And you don't take the vaccine just to protect yourself.
Apologies, where did you get the 6 in 1 million?


I used the table below from this source -https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicin...ne-astrazeneca

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Originally Posted By jizzfarmer⏩
Very nice OP on spread. Would suggest elongating your strokes though srs, asian sloots love long slow strokes especially if you have a big cawk. 7 X 5.5 checking in phuking tight joocy asian poocies hhnnggg.
Elongating? I thought I was banging deep, or you meant doing it slower?

Only 6.3 x 5.1 here in the cawk department.
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Originally Posted By NextPound⏩
Your logic is stupid because it’s not apples to apples and they yield entirely different outcomes.

That said, if you don’t want the vaccine, don’t get one. You don’t have to justify to anyone your decision, unless of course, you are insecure about it.
Or am, I think it’s truly the other way around... with regards to insecurity. As if I’d not made my mind up after the abuses in cranberry. Then a slew of research chemicals and so forth followed. Insecurity and deep trauma over being molested/interfering with my known path to spiritual life? Plus there being a large distinction? Between just orgasm? And sex? Along with the level of uncomfortable circumstances that it comes with spiritual stuff aside? There is something which separates us from animals? Though it seems lost on you doesn’t it? I mean all of the west coast? I mean liberals in general. At least there is recognizing that too there is far more value to my life than... from ok... but also a perceived misunderstanding of its detriment... though also a seemingly large group of people who ruined their lives... well that is likely a very true statement... as it seems to be true with the African American population in general and these industries they greatly overvalue the only thing of benefit many of these in these industries have to offer. Along with a failure to recognize the statistics from all these African American women? Such as mistreatment in the home, failure to remain in the home for raising their children leaving on parent families(moms always black women are so mistreated by their men and disregarded by whites at unfair level, obscene and I’m the resolution) and it’s cross over to this situation right here... as if there was this understanding? So many black women wouldn’t have to suffer the consequences of these men. A role model problem and representation needs to take place on me. Yet to deprive me rights tj only be of detriment while contributing nothing? And even using the term racism/bringing up slavery whilst you do the same thing tj me? And focus so heavily on the race of people involved it’s even a topic of discussion? Is there a misunderstanding because I don’t understand. Or maybe I do and democrats just got everyone all up in arms based off illegally obtained information and? Then don’t want to take any responsibility for it, as per usual.

Anyways, back to the topic of insecurity right? Let’s talk about being so insecure in yourself that you have to push something of detriment nature onto someone else because you feel some type of way? Or let’s talk about such a level of connection to god or lack thereof so nonexistent that your life is of such great importance over everyone else... or let’s talk about the level of misunderstanding in the old adage misery loves company and it’s applied to this.

Or let’s talk about being so corrupt that? You ugh?

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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
FOB international student in London, UK -> we work in the same company.



I see your logic and your logic is sound but lots of FOBs know "Westerners" are all about that trimmed/clean-shaven look so I have never had a FOB in London without at least trimmed.



I have no pics of her feet as she works in the finance division so she works more hours than me and I stay over at hers like every weekend

but I slept with a British Korean (yes while dating the other girl) and I made a thread about it a few days ago, here is the pic of her body:



I can deliver proof that this is my bedroomm

followed by her feet:




FOBs actually are really surprised when I want to suck their feet; but missionary while her feet are pressed on my chest and I can kiss them makes me go HAAAAM and they love it probably tbh



ironically, I have banged a FOB that had literally the same tit size and shape (with a perfect slim body) and another FOB that was flat-chested but with a similar pretty Chinese face

not both tho addmitedly
Phuck getting mogged hard here. Don't really get a lot of Chinese girls in America. We have them but they're older from another generation. Plowed a few Filipinos and Thai chics but it's not the same.
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Originally Posted By swoleyo⏩
Phuck getting mogged hard here. Don't really get a lot of Chinese girls in America. We have them but they're older from another generation. Plowed a few Filipinos and Thai chics but it's not the same.
TBH not sure if Chicago has a big percentage like NYC or Cali

If you go to Cali you should be able to find a Korean or Chinese

In the UK they are concentrated in London for several reasons:

- most diverse city (applies to NYC and LA)

- already established Asian-British/American communities from older generations (Mao's China and Korean War refugees)

- most opportunities for international students (big companies who sponsor visa post-studies)
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Apologies, where did you get the 6 in 1 million?


I used the table below from this source -https://www.ema.europa.eu/en/medicin...ne-astrazeneca

NM I think that was old data that I saw. The AZ vaccine is showing at what you said.

One thing is you're comparing death/hospital rate of covid to clot rate of vaccine. What about clot rate of covid?

And again you also need to consider the benefit you are providing to the vulnerable by vaccinating.

Personally, I wouldn't take AZ. I'd take one of the other ones. AZ has seemed to be the worst. It isn't approved in the US even for emergency use. It's cheap to make though.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
NM I think that was old data that I saw. The AZ vaccine is showing at what you said.
yeah this was just general logic to stay put at home since I really dont wanna go out tbh and wait a year or two for vaccination
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Elongating? I thought I was banging deep, or you meant doing it slower?

Only 6.3 x 5.1 here in the cawk department.
Yeah you're going deep but I mean when you pull out, pull out more until it's just the tip of your dink or a bit more left and then thrust back in. You're phuking her deep but the pull out is only a bit, which I know is tempting cuz you're horny af and just wanna jackrabbit smash (been there) you still have the majority of cawk in there when you're about to thrust back in. And yeah start off slowly.

Give it a try brah srs asian sloots love that sht and it gives them the impression that you have a bigger dink than you actually do. I always get bishes creaming a lot more on my cawk when I do long slow strokes.
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Phuck getting mogged hard here. Don't really get a lot of Chinese girls in America. We have them but they're older from another generation. Plowed a few Filipinos and Thai chics but it's not the same.
Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
TBH not sure if Chicago has a big percentage like NYC or Cali
I think Chicago should have Korean sloots, my favourite whores hhnnggg.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
yeah this was just general logic to stay put at home since I really dont wanna go out tbh and wait a year or two for vaccination
Why not take an mrna one? Are they not available where you are?
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Are they not available where you are?
Aware :P

mRNA is new technology - the earliest approval for a commercial treatment in the FDA is 2018. I do not think it is worth the risk.

I am fully vaccinated with MMR for example - but that thing has been around for 70 years with a solid safety profile.


Viral-vector ones, like AZ, have been trialled for HIV, Ebola etc for 30 years now but I read several papers saying that just because it is the same type (viral-vector) it is a different substance configuration so you can't extrapolate like that (I am sure you'd understand this).

Combine that with the data I showed you for it and I don't think it is worth it for a healthy 24-year-old who can mancave his existence for the next year because I want to. However, if I wish to visit my homeland and I am exposing elderly family members, I would definitely get it beforehand.


In the UK, they give either Pfizer or AZ and I don't think you have the choice. No private commercial ones are available.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Aware :P

mRNA is new technology - the earliest approval for a commercial treatment in the FDA is 2018. I do not think it is worth the risk.

I am fully vaccinated with MMR for example - but that thing has been around for 70 years with a solid safety profile.


Viral-vector ones, like AZ, have been trialled for HIV, Ebola etc for 30 years now but I read several papers saying that just because it is the same type (viral-vector) it is a different substance configuration so you can't extrapolate like that (I am sure you'd understand this).

Combine that with the data I showed you for it and I don't think it is worth it for a healthy 24-year-old who can mancave his existence for the next year because I want to. However, if I wish to visit my homeland and I am exposing elderly family members, I would definitely get it beforehand.


In the UK, they give either Pfizer or AZ and I don't think you have the choice. No private commercial ones are available.
But pfizer is lower risk than AZ. Way fewer adverse events. I took Pfizer btw. It made my arm sore for a day after each dose. That was it for me.

The best quote I've seen is that peanuts would kill more people than the vaccines if given to the same number. They are literally statistically safer than peanuts.

It's hard to get over medical denial. I had high bp and for many years refused meds because I had read about side effects and wondered if they would affect my brain. Well, after a while, I developed small hemorrhages in my eyes and I literally ejaculated blood sometimes. If that was happening, you can bet I probably had issues in my brain too and kidneys, heart, liver etc. Who knows what damage I incurred because I didn't follow the advice? I was so scared of the side effects and worried about making the wrong decision that I didn't realize inaction itself is also a wrong decision. It's best to make the best decision you can at the tine with the info you have. Sure, you could take the shot and it could kill you. Or you could get covid and it could kill you. You don't have a personalized model of risk but what you can do is see the stats and look at what you might expect to occur. It won't be 100% accurate but you ought to make the best decision u can with the info u have. It's unnerving to trust your life to a doctor, but it's their job.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It won't be 100% accurate but you ought to make the best decision u can
Exactly. And here am I showing you data about AZ and why it is not worth it for me right now.

Pfizer shows a safety profile but what is a safety profile for mRNA which has not been tested in humans for long-term (more than like 3 years). How do I know what can occur? Side effects are discovered on a rolling basis.


And as I mentioned, I would consider AZ if I had a change in circumstance - travelling and so forth. But there is no commercial choice - I would pay for that. You are told what you get but you can't ask specifically for Pfizer or AZ.

And probably most doses are AZ-Oxford because the UK Conservative gov needs to use anything as a symbol of Brexit victory over the EU's Pfizer-BioNTech (German manufacturer).


I am good just chilling wanking off and drinking a nice green Monster and not act as a guinea pig for ****ty politicians.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Apparently you are a "lunatic who irrationally refuses medication and cannot evaluate risk accurately -- an inferior subhuman."

I am exactly on the same page as you are when it comes to these vaccines (actually I am even a bit more skewed towards getting one), but that's what wincel thinks of people like us.
RIP me then. I then must suffer the consequences of getting an ICU admission due to Covid:





Which is just below 1 in 100 000 for my age range (which has a very big upper threshold at 15-44...)

Which is 2x less chance than 2 in 100 000 AZ blood-clot


I will determinately omit the fact that... in order to get "admitted in ICU after Covid-19 positive result" one must go through the event of getting Covid-19, which this chance at present:




But I shouldn't multiply the chances of these dependent events because that might make someone upset!
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Exactly. And here am I showing you data about AZ and why it is not worth it for me right now.

Pfizer shows a safety profile but what is a safety profile for mRNA which has not been tested in humans for long-term (more than like 3 years). How do I know what can occur? Side effects are discovered on a rolling basis.


And as I mentioned, I would consider AZ if I had a change in circumstance - travelling and so forth. But there is no commercial choice - I would pay for that. You are told what you get but you can't ask specifically for Pfizer or AZ.

And probably most doses are AZ-Oxford because the UK Conservative gov needs to use anything as a symbol of Brexit victory over the EU's Pfizer-BioNTech (German manufacturer).


I am good just chilling wanking off and drinking a nice green Monster and not act as a guinea pig for ****ty politicians.
If you want insight into the long term effects, you can read more about how the mrna vaccines are metabolized and that should put your fears to rest.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
If you want insight into the long term effects, you can read more about how the mrna vaccines are metabolized and that should put your fears to rest.
Yes, because theories of how it is metabolised guarantees systematic tolerance all the time. No examples can be given from history - are we sure about this?

For example, finasteride is a drug that was trialled for benign hyperplasia of the prostate as a metabolite of a DHT hormone stimulating the prostate is a well-known mechanism. Clinicians noticed that a side effect was a partial reversal of male pattern baldness in subjects that were taking it for their prostate.

That turned into a widespread off-label commercial usage of finasteride for male pattern baldness more than the drug is used for benign hyperplasia of the prostate.

And that turned into discoveries that DHT's involvement as a neurotransmitter and lowering it through finasteride might cause other issues on a systematic level in some men (despite the assurance of safety from Merck).

So in my example, a man should weigh the pros and cons and decide. I am taking serious side effects of both scenarios of mine.



After multiplying the chances of getting infected where I live with the rate of ICU admissions in newly positive Covid-19 cases I determined that it is several times lower than getting a blood clot from AZ vaccine.

Is this rocket science or you are trying to live vicariously through Fauci as being the Fauci of the Misc?
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
Yes, because theories of how it is metabolised guarantees systematic tolerance all the time. No examples can be given from history - are we sure about this?

For example, finasteride is a drug that was trialled for benign hyperplasia of the prostate as a metabolite of a DHT hormone stimulating the prostate is a well-known mechanism. Clinicians noticed that a side effect was a partial reversal of male pattern baldness in subjects that were taking it for their prostate.

That turned into a widespread off-label commercial usage of finasteride for male pattern baldness more than the drug is used for benign hyperplasia of the prostate.

And that turned into discoveries that DHT's involvement as a neurotransmitter and lowering it through finasteride might cause other issues on a systematic level in some men (despite the assurance of safety from Merck).

So in my example, a man should weigh the pros and cons and decide. I am taking serious side effects of both scenarios of mine.



After multiplying the chances of getting infected where I live with the rate of ICU admissions in newly positive Covid-19 cases I determined that it is several times lower than getting a blood clot from AZ vaccine.

Is this rocket science or you are trying to live vicariously through Fauci as being the Fauci of the Misc?
That is different. Science progresses. And that was a totally different drug. The reasons I argue against vaccine hesitancy are 1) it is low hanging fruit for trolling and 2) many antivaxxers are full on science haters. So, I like to call them out on their bs. There is also 3) if more people take the vaccines, the evidence suggests we can more easily defeat the pandemic.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Now this is definitely "lunatic" territory.

But I am glad I am not alone in actually applying a logical thought process to this.
To be honest, I might have made a mistake as the ICU admission one considers per 100 000 people, which pushes me to believe they have adjusted it for infection rate, as using a per 100 000 people for 5 million cases... quite macro as Her Majesty's land has not been shaken that much now, has it? :P




But does it really matter when then the number for a AZ blood-clot is 2x more than the ICU rate

Especially considering the brainpower I used to consider this technical detail is more than all wincel has used for anything re: covid
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
I am pretty sure you like to call people who would take AZ rather than Pfizer ( like OP posted ), irrational idiots.
You're an irrational idiot, yes. We already established that. If you wonder why I treat him politely and you like garbage, it's because you're the discarded semen of a gutter whore after it leaked out of her ratchet vagene.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
There we go guys, the vaccine expert has spoken, there are no long term, and will definitely never be any long term effects. This guy said so himself.

Oh BTW, you went off on me because I am on the same page as atgbrahsrs.



Apparently you are a "lunatic who irrationally refuses medication and cannot evaluate risk accurately -- an inferior subhuman."

I am exactly on the same page as you are when it comes to these vaccines (actually I am even a bit more skewed towards getting one), but that's what wincel thinks of people like us.
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Hospitals are marking the fat man in his 50s who’s type 2 diabetic, has one kidney, hi blood pressure, catches covid in hospital and dies from a heart attack during surgery as a Covid death


The statistics are absolutely inflated as a mother fkr from the government to pay off medical professionals to marking covid deaths that are far from it.


Getting this “vaccine” was nothing more then a justification for the democrats to uncuff America’s balls to go back to work after winning the election.

It’s beyond obvious and absolutely sickening what liberals are. They all belong in jail or on another planet.
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Originally Posted By atgbrahsrs⏩
To be honest, I might have made a mistake as the ICU admission one considers per 100 000 people, which pushes me to believe they have adjusted it for infection rate, as using a per 100 000 people for 5 million cases... quite macro as Her Majesty's land has not been shaken that much now, has it? :P




But does it really matter when then the number for a AZ blood-clot is 2x more than the ICU rate

Especially considering the brainpower I used to consider this technical detail is more than all wincel has used for anything re: covid
Use some brainpower to determine the risk of clotting from covid and compare that to the risk of clotting from each of the vaccines. Compare the risk of death from covid to that of each of the vaccines. Then, you will unambiguously see that taking the vaccine is the rational choice.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That is different. Science progresses. And that was a totally different drug. The reasons I argue against vaccine hesitancy are 1) it is low hanging fruit for trolling and 2) many antivaxxers are full on science haters. So, I like to call them out on their bs. There is also 3) if more people take the vaccines, the evidence suggests we can more easily defeat the pandemic.
Science progresses and I hope it does. I just do not want to necessarily be part of the discovery process.

Different drug, same principle. A lot of research on AZ safety is done with previous viral-vector vaccine reserach. But they are technically different drugs, targeting different mechanisms. So are you telling me I can't trust that either :?


1) I am not sure why someone who is just chilling not rushing anything should rush anything due to random people doing internet acts of trolling on the internet spaces


2) People who cannot discriminate between accurate, reliable data (EU Medicines Agency Astra-Zeneca safety data and Public Health England Covid-19 infection/hospitalisation rate) versus flawed and misleading data (Discredited physician Andrew Wakefield study on MMR vaccines causing autism) are responsible for their own fates


3) Which is estimated to be most people over 30 for solid herd immunity. Which means it is all circumstantial.
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