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post 1643050623 07-17-2021, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
I do not have the $ or power to provide the elderly at home services or install extra staff at care facilities to enforce strict COVID protocol, that could have been the government's job.

They opted to tell people to wear masks and put COVID positive people directly into care facilities instead. You are on the side of the bad guys wincel.
Right. The side whose plan is to do absolutely nothing about the virus must be better.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
The UK is already posting daily New Case numbers that are as high as their biggest spike to date, but hospitalizations are 1/10th of what they are at the equivalent point in the curve. I think the UK is opening up on Monday even with being in the middle of this new spike





As long as burden on the health care system is low, I think places will continue pushing for normal life. Seems like the next risk would be vaccine resistance in light of huge new cases, but you'd think the mRNA platform would allow for quick adaptation
It doesn't. It's going to be a long time before we get a delta vaccine because of how long it takes to get through initial trials.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Right. The side whose plan is to do absolutely nothing about the virus must be better.
I literally mentioned exactly what to do wincel.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
I literally mentioned exactly what to do wincel.
Do you have any idea about the logistics of that? And how would you prevent spread to the vulnerable? Derp. Keep parroting talking points you read off the web instead of thinking for yourself.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Do you have any idea about the logistics of that? And how would you prevent spread to the vulnerable? Derp. Keep parroting talking points you read off the web instead of thinking for yourself.
The people saying lockdowns and UBI are doable and necessary is also saying that getting supplies to a portion of the population and locking down nursing homes is impossible.

You believe this because you can only parrot, not contemplate.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
The people saying lockdowns and UBI are doable and necessary is also saying that getting supplies to a portion of the population and locking down nursing homes is impossible.

You believe this because you can only parrot, not contemplate.
Says the guy who linked me pbs documentaries and claimed he knew more physics. You're the type of guy who "likes physics but doesn't really get the math", aren't you? Do you know why you suck at math? Take a wild guess. It's the same reason you come to the wrong conclusions here.

To stick on topic, focused protection doesn't work. There is no efficient way to segregate and care for the vulnerable.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Says the guy who linked me pbs documentaries and claimed he knew more physics. You're the type of guy who "likes physics but doesn't really get the math", aren't you? Do you know why you suck at math? Take a wild guess. It's the same reason you come to the wrong conclusions here.

To stick on topic, focused protection doesn't work. There is no efficient way to segregate and care for the vulnerable.
Are you arguing with yourself? Its like block 1 and block 2 are on opposite sides.

Another thing you cannot get away from is your binary thinking. Its do X or do Y with you because that is how religion works. You cannot even fathom the possibility that we could wear masks, get vaccinated AND lock down the nursing homes and provide the elderly direct support because your religious leaders do not speak this way. "You are pro-vax or anti-vax", this is your binary world, there is no in between anything.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
Are you arguing with yourself? Its like block 1 and block 2 are on opposite sides.

Another thing you cannot get away from is your binary thinking. Its do X or do Y with you because that is how religion works. You cannot even fathom the possibility that we could wear masks, get vaccinated AND lock down the nursing homes and provide the elderly direct support because your religious leaders do not speak this way. "You are pro-vax or anti-vax", this is your binary world, there is no in between anything.
Again, how do u segregate the vulnerable without spreading covid?

There is a reason focused protection was pushed by people who do not specialize in infectious disease or virology. It sounds good on paper. It isn't practical operationally.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
Are you arguing with yourself? Its like block 1 and block 2 are on opposite sides.

Another thing you cannot get away from is your binary thinking. Its do X or do Y with you because that is how religion works. You cannot even fathom the possibility that we could wear masks, get vaccinated AND lock down the nursing homes and provide the elderly direct support because your religious leaders do not speak this way. "You are pro-vax or anti-vax", this is your binary world, there is no in between anything.
It is pretty lulzy how wincel professes to be a man of science but is basically am just the alternate universe version of a westboro Baptist.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Again, how do u segregate the vulnerable without spreading covid?

There is a reason focused protection was pushed by people who do not specialize in infectious disease or virology. It sounds good on paper. It isn't practical operationally.
What do you think a mask does?

That is used face to face. Are you trying to say that a mask + no-contact delivery is less effective?

Have you worked through anything you are told, ever?
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
What do you think a mask does?

That is used face to face. Are you trying to say that a mask + no-contact delivery is less effective?

Have you worked through anything you are told, ever?
I'm saying that many elderly live with families and need to be cared for directly. It isn't as simple as wearing a mask and delivering food. The mask only marginally reduces spread. It isn't going to magically protect the person if they're living with someone with covid. You're just desperately grasping at straws because you don't want to see the danger of this virus nor do you want to admit that maybe the economists and epidemiologists at the CDC already looked into that. You know they are paid and educated, right?
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You're arguing with someone who thinks Walmarts were allowed to stay open because they have better ventilation systems than comparable commercial buildings.
That and the fact that closing Walmart would starve at least 10% of America. Grats. And yes it is true. Walmart has much better ventilation than a conventional small store.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
I'm saying that many elderly live with families and need to be cared for directly. It isn't as simple as wearing a mask and delivering food. The mask only marginally reduces spread. It isn't going to magically protect the person if they're living with someone with covid. You're just desperately grasping at straws because you don't want to see the danger of this virus nor do you want to admit that maybe the eocnomists and epidemiologists at the CDC already looked into that. You know they are paid and educated, right?
Yeah, the people not living in terror are the desperate ones.

To debunk this......

Those elderly living with others ...... live with others under either plan so if they can have the people in the home less reliant on leaving, they are less likely to bring COVID home.

For the elderly living alone, this literally changes EVERYTHING.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
Yeah, the people not living in terror are the desperate ones.

To debunk this......

Those elderly living with others ...... live with others under either plan so if they can have the people in the home less reliant on leaving, they are less likely to bring COVID home.

For the elderly living alone, this literally changes EVERYTHING.
If you're saying we need better funding for elderly care in this country, I agree.

Anyway, there is no reason to not vaccinate, but sadly the current vaccines won't help enough vs Delta.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
If you're saying we need better funding for elderly care in this country, I agree.
Yeah but you are not willing to take it a step further and say that it was criminal to exploit them to drive the death toll up.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
Yeah but you are not willing to take it a step further and say that it was criminal to exploit them to drive the death toll up.
Are you talking about Cuomo's bullchit or what? Yea they didn't have appropriate nursing homes to care for the elderly and take appropriate measures to stop covid. Not sure it was criminal. You seem to be alleging a conspiracy.
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Guys, what are you arguing about, we already have the game plan
- shut down small stores while leaving large ones open
- have people wear ineffective mouth diapers
- and most importantly, put the infected into nursing homes
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
If you're saying we need better funding for elderly care in this country, I agree.

Anyway, there is no reason to not vaccinate, but sadly the current vaccines won't help enough vs Delta.
I'll give you two very good reasons:

1.) The covid vaccine is experimental and has killed 4x as many people in the last 8 months than ALL vaccines in the last 50 years combined.
2.) 99.97% of people do not need it.
Originally Posted By wincel⏩
Are you talking about Cuomo's bullchit or what? Yea they didn't have appropriate nursing homes to care for the elderly and take appropriate measures to stop covid. Not sure it was criminal. You seem to be alleging a conspiracy.
Bruh, Trump gave him emergency medical ships that he never used!

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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
I'll give you two very good reasons:

1.) The covid vaccine is experimental and has killed 4x as many people in the last 8 months than ALL vaccines in the last 50 years combined.
2.) 99.97% of people do not need it.

Keep sheepin'
No it hasn't killed that many people. Not all adverse events logged were caused by the vaccine. You need to compare to baselines rates.

I'll give you a good reason. It gives you a baseline level of immunity to work with that can help you fight other strains if infected and can prevent death. They probably don't protect against Delta as well as prior studies indicated, according to new evidence though.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
I'll give you two very good reasons:

1.) The covid vaccine is experimental and has killed 4x as many people in the last 8 months than ALL vaccines in the last 50 years combined.
2.) 99.97% of people do not need it.
Add to the list:

3.) People catching COVID-19 and recovering creates a pool of people that can be compared to immunity through vaccination.

People getting vaccinated and people recovering from COVID-19 are both creating data for science.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
Add to the list:

3.) People catching COVID-19 and recovering creates a pool of people that can be compared to immunity through vaccination.

People getting vaccinated and people recovering from COVID-19 are both creating data for science.
The virus also has several negative health effects besides death, such as lung scarring, neurological damage, etc.
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lmao they already have the cure for this thing it's called Ivermectin
see the joe rogan podcast where they talk about it


At this point this is all about pharma making money
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
The virus also has several negative health effects besides death, such as lung scarring, neurological damage, etc.
You mean its part of life?

We eat junk food, drink, smoke, do drugs, do dangerous stuff for fun......

Dangerous sh!t is part of life and we die horribly all the time.

The things is, people like you never actually live so stuff like COVID looks very different to you.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That and the fact that closing Walmart would starve at least 10% of America. Grats. And yes it is true. Walmart has much better ventilation than a conventional small store.
LOL. If you're talking about some corner market yeah, most grocery chains I've encountered have excellent ventilation tho. Mexican and Asian markets in Cali are an exception-nothing like smelling meat or fish the second you walk in... Maybe this was a justification, bit it's a schitty one.
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There's also supply chain stuff. Walmart has fewer hops for their supply chain and mass distributes. It's possible for big name stores to standardize and upgrade their procedures for covid more effectively than a small local store.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
You're arguing with someone who thinks Walmarts were allowed to stay open because they have better ventilation systems than comparable commercial buildings.
Holy chit, you aren’t lying - he actually said and defends this!

I’m 100% convinced there is an alternate universe where wincel is holding up a god hates ****s sign.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
The virus also has several negative health effects besides death, such as lung scarring, neurological damage, etc.
Oh nos! A few people have underlying conditions that make covid worse than 99.97% of us. We better pay big pharma to produce 14 billion doses of an experimental vaccine that doesn't even work!

Bruh... Sometimes I wonder if you are self-aware at all. You are a mindless robot.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
There's also supply chain stuff. Walmart has fewer hops for their supply chain and mass distributes. It's possible for big name stores to standardize and upgrade their procedures for covid more effectively than a small local store.
So to be proactive we should just reduce obtaining things to Amazon and and Walmart, right?

Like I said earlier, you are with the bad guys wincel.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx⏩
So to be proactive we should just reduce obtaining things to Amazon and and Walmart, right?

Like I said earlier, you are with the bad guys wincel.
No but u can't deny that Walmart and Amazon are better equipped to handle these changes.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
That and the fact that closing Walmart would starve at least 10% of America. Grats. And yes it is true. Walmart has much better ventilation than a conventional small store.
this is simply false. Do you think people just starved before Walmart? Capitalism would commence and a void will be filled.
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