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post 1643063573 07-17-2021, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
If you go back through my history I was always pro-science and pro-vax, I still am. This is something else. The rules got changed and I refused to go along. I'll still vaccinate my 4 YO and I will still get the flu shot and you are still a sheep.
You're wrecking wincel's little brain with a nuanced and appropriately critical perspective.
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At this point there is so much vaccine out here, you either get it or you dont and if you get sick you live with the consequences.

I do think there should be some mechanism to penalize or ensure that folks who are hospitalized (and unvaccinated) should bear more cost though. At this point if you want to burden the healthcare system because of your decisions, you should also be willing to pay the consequences (should it happen).
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
BTW wincel, the list is predictions I made, that is what being abale to stand for something looks like, even if its not popular.

You didn't claim that they were crazy and never going to happen and you didn't admit that it looks very likely that they will happen. That is what a coward looks like.

Pick a side and own whatever happens.
I'm not a fortune teller. Some of that stuff might happen. Some might not.

None of those predictions have anything to do with the grand conspiracy you allege...

You have zero evidence to support any of your allegations, and they would require everyone to coordinate in a never before seen level of conspiracy. You also said no one and some bs about a frog rather than spell it out. Who is running this conspiracy? What do you think "they" gain from this?
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Originally Posted By FChumChum
At this point there is so much vaccine out here, you either get it or you dont and if you get sick you live with the consequences.

I do think there should be some mechanism to penalize or ensure that folks who are hospitalized (and unvaccinated) should bear more cost though. At this point if you want to burden the healthcare system because of your decisions, you should also be willing to pay the consequences (should it happen).
yeah, country full of sat slobs. Fatter and fatter every year. These are the people reproducing.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/obesity...nces/economic/
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Originally Posted By Anachron
That's not that hard, really. I do it on a regular basis if I have time to kill.



You must mean overweight people, smokers, and the like?
Guess what? Most americans are overweight and have health issues.

Especially in the south where vaccine hesitancy is the greatest.
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Originally Posted By Luc1fer
Bruh, stop talking about cases.

You're either trolling or dumb.
Sadly this is the tactic they've been using since the beginning. "Cases" is so ambiguous that it means anyone that's tested PCR positive (completely flawed) is a case. Their actual symptoms of being sick ranges from none to death.

When they say 52k cases:

Public (wincel potatoes) perception: 25k will be on ventilators, severely ill, 25k will die
Reality: 50k have no symptoms, 1.5k have symptoms akin to a cold (mild cough etc), 498 have symptoms akin to a flu (fever, pneumonia etc), 2 die (not as a result of the virus though).

It's the perfect con because the average person is as dumb as wincel.
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post 1643064753 07-17-2021, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
None of those predictions have anything to do with the grand conspiracy you allege...
So is that an agree or disagree, its hard to tell with people like you. If "I refuse to answer" just say that, it makes your drivel less confusing.
Originally Posted By wincel
You have zero evidence to support any of your allegations, and they would require everyone to coordinate in a never before seen level of conspiracy. You also said no one and some bs about a frog rather than spell it out. Who is running this conspiracy? What do you think "they" gain from this?
I have mentioned the world economic forum and their PUBLIC promotional video many times now. The boiled frog has to do with how you can post something like that today, but not 20 years ago.

Have you watched it? If not, you should. Its the "you'll own nothing and be happy" video, you know, very rational stuff.
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post 1643064773 07-17-2021, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
So if someone goes to the hospital for heart issues due to being overweight, they should be paying for the consequences of being overweight, right?
No, probably not. Because there are genetic factors, economic factors, etc that go into it. There are also cultural factors so would be impossible to enact.

But in the same way smokers pay higher health insurance, should put some kind of cost on these types of decisions.
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan
Sadly this is the tactic they've been using since the beginning. "Cases" is so ambiguous that it means anyone that's tested PCR positive (completely flawed) is a case. Their actual symptoms of being sick ranges from none to death.

When they say 52k cases:

Public (wincel potatoes) perception: 25k will be on ventilators, severely ill, 25k will die
Reality: 50k have no symptoms, 1.5k have symptoms akin to a cold (mild cough etc), 498 have symptoms akin to a flu (fever, pneumonia etc), 2 die (not as a result of the virus though).

It's the perfect con because the average person is as dumb as wincel.
A lot of mental gymnastics to try to claim that COVID doesn't claim lives....
post 1643064883 07-17-2021, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan
Sadly this is the tactic they've been using since the beginning. "Cases" is so ambiguous that it means anyone that's tested PCR positive (completely flawed) is a case. Their actual symptoms of being sick ranges from none to death.

When they say 52k cases:

Public (wincel potatoes) perception: 25k will be on ventilators, severely ill, 25k will die
Reality: 50k have no symptoms, 1.5k have symptoms akin to a cold (mild cough etc), 498 have symptoms akin to a flu (fever, pneumonia etc), 2 die (not as a result of the virus though).

It's the perfect con because the average person is as dumb as wincel.
Its the same thing with detecting it on a surface over a specific time period. That says nothing about how viable the virus is when it is still technically detectable, but that isn't the point, terror is the point.
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post 1643064983 07-17-2021, 04:52 PM
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Some ppl here think there is such a big conspiracy, government wants to control your brain, your life, etc, etc.

I hope you realize at the end of the day, Biden, Trump, whoever, they are just regular guys. Nothing special about them, etc., just doing thier job doing what THEY think is the best course of action.

You see how incompentent government is, and you really think there is some kind of coordinated messaging, plan? LOL.
post 1643065033 07-17-2021, 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
So if someone goes to the hospital for heart issues due to being overweight, they should be paying for the consequences of being overweight, right?
We are NEVER going to enact a system that is intrinsically fair. An upper middle class 18 YO that has never had a job = 1 vote, just like the self made 40 YO that has been through poverty, the military and now has a family of 5, 1 vote.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Got it.
Don't know what this means, but what i'm saying is telling people in the south to stop eating BBQ or americans in general to stop scarfing down burgers and french fries doesn't really work.
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan
Sadly this is the tactic they've been using since the beginning. "Cases" is so ambiguous that it means anyone that's tested PCR positive (completely flawed) is a case. Their actual symptoms of being sick ranges from none to death.

When they say 52k cases:

Public (wincel potatoes) perception: 25k will be on ventilators, severely ill, 25k will die
Reality: 50k have no symptoms, 1.5k have symptoms akin to a cold (mild cough etc), 498 have symptoms akin to a flu (fever, pneumonia etc), 2 die (not as a result of the virus though).

It's the perfect con because the average person is as dumb as wincel.
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01693-6

Still think it's no big deal?
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The anti-vaccinators are the idiotic people causing this. And now with less restrictions and a taste of normalcy they will be even bigger babies when the restrictions are put back into effect because they won't get a shot.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
So is that an agree or disagree, its hard to tell with people like you. If "I refuse to answer" just say that, it makes your drivel less confusing.



I have mentioned the world economic forum and their PUBLIC promotional video many times now. The boiled frog has to do with how you can post something like that today, but not 20 years ago.

Have you watched it? If not, you should. Its the "you'll own nothing and be happy" video, you know, very rational stuff.
Oh ok so the world economic forum controls the world now? Got it.
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Originally Posted By FChumChum
Some ppl here think there is such a big conspiracy, government wants to control your brain, your life, etc, etc.
I don't think that at all. What I do believe is that there are wealthy and powerful people absolutely convinced that humanity is going to self destruct and it is their obligation to save us from ourselves. That is why they are dangerous, they absolutely believe that they the only ones with the power and will to do what must be done.

IMO, if humanity votes to destroy itself through its own actions, that is their right. This is the fundamental issue that underpins absolutely everything else and transcends all elections and governments. No one "votes" for billionaires, they are outside that system so can act however the hell they want since they don't have to win an election.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Oh ok so the world economic forum controls the world now? Got it.
They are certainly sitting at the table.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Or a basement dwelling pseudointellectual who never held a job in his life = 1 vote?
Of course. If you wanted to fix all of our systems to make them fair we would need to undo literally everything that has been heading in the opposite direction for ages now.

And ....... CA wants to drop the voting age to 16.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
They are certainly sitting at the table.
Tell me something. Do you believe in God?

Do you believe in karma and that there is some order or divine plan to the universe?
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Originally Posted By resoog
The anti-vaccinators are the idiotic people causing this. And now with less restrictions and a taste of normalcy they will be even bigger babies when the restrictions are put back into effect because they won't get a shot.
I take pride in killing vaccinated people.
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
I don't think that at all. What I do believe is that there are wealthy and powerful people absolutely convinced that humanity is going to self destruct and it is their obligation to save us from ourselves. That is why they are dangerous, they absolutely believe that they the only ones with the power and will to do what must be done.

IMO, if humanity votes to destroy itself through its own actions, that is their right. This is the fundamental issue that underpins absolutely everything else and transcends all elections and governments. No one "votes" for billionaires, they are outside that system so can act however the hell they want since they don't have to win an election.
In our society money = power and influence. That's just how the society was designed - just like how everything is right vs. left (though polarization might be at all time highs).

Saying that if people want to do something (especially if it's destructive), that is their will and right, I kind of get your point. But this type of thinking implies Nazi germany (or genocide, etc) in other parts of the world is totally fine -- you need some body to stand up and say this is / isn't right.

Not to say the people who are standing up are always right either but if you see a train going off the rails, as a human being or a member of society, someone needs to be the person to pull the breaks to prevent everything from crashing.
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Originally Posted By wincel
Tell me something. Do you believe in God?
Your subject is getting boring as hell so I will entertain your deflection.

I don't go as far as stating that "god is impossible" but I am absolutely not religious.

I am open to the idea that the fundamental laws that give rise to all of existence could be the result of intention, but that intention could very well mean that we are simulated so really not a yes or no on god.

Or there could be infinite universes so a universe with the right combination of fundamental laws isn't just possible, it has to happen and infinitely often.

In the end, I wont ever know and I am cool with that.
Originally Posted By wincel
Do you believe in karma and that there is some order or divine plan to the universe?
Karma cannot exist because then things could not happen in a predictable way. "Magic" would make science impossible.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Enter textbook example of strawman again.

Edit : Just so everyone is clear, the quoted post is by someone who calls people out for "arguing in bad faith". You can't make this chit up.
His trolling is getting abysmal; he really needs to get laid
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
terror is the point.
Correct. And terror = $$$. In 2020 oil prices hit the lowest in 20 years, they bounced back 6x in 2021.

During the pandemic the rich became richer and the poor became poorer. Billionaires in US increased their wealth by $4 trillion during a time everyone was meant to be locked up and dropping like flies. It's all about spreading fear for profit, yet nobody is actually dying from the boogieman virus.

Hats off to the con artists making bank from this scam.
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His trolling is getting abysmal; he really needs to get laid
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His trolling is getting abysmal; he really needs to get laid
Get laid. Are you fookin kidding me. Iโ€™ll bet he swims with a T-shirt on.
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Originally Posted By FChumChum
Not to say the people who are standing up are always right either but if you see a train going off the rails, as a human being or a member of society, someone needs to be the person to pull the breaks to prevent everything from crashing.
I just can't go there. Maybe 100 or so people making the call that effects billions and 10s of billions yet to be born sounds a lot like the Thanos snap. His heart was in the right place and I have seen many people make the case that Thanos was actually the good guy. Its easy to build a devout following if you seem legitimately driven to save humanity and convinced that time is running out. The problem with this is that if you are saving 10s and billions of lives, what measures are off the table? And after those measures, what if you are wrong?
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Originally Posted By nosirrahx
Your subject is getting boring as hell so I will entertain your deflection.

I don't go as far as stating that "god is impossible" but I am absolutely not religious.

I am open to the idea that the fundamental laws that give rise to all of existence could be the result of intention, but that intention could very well mean that we are simulated so really not a yes or no on god.

Or there could be infinite universes so a universe with the right combination of fundamental laws isn't just possible, it has to happen and infinitely often.

In the end, I wont ever know and I am cool with that.



Karma cannot exist because then things could not happen in a predictable way. "Magic" would make science impossible.
Fair enough. I guess I just wonder why you think there is a group in charge of the world. How do you explain the conflicts? Look at Israel and Palestine or Kashmir. Why aren't these powers that be doing anything about it?

Also, you don't seem to deny the virus' existence. You can see from CDC data a huge number of excess deaths occurred last year. That means there was an actual significant new cause of death. Of course, that cause was the virus. The question then becomes WHY some group would release such a virus. Who gains? You say the world economic forum gains. It's amusing that you think a not for profit international organization with no military or actual power controls the entire world. And what would they gain from this?

You know for a conspiracy, they seem pretty chit at keeping it quiet, having a youtube video and all. These guys allegedly run the world, but you're telling me the bright folks on this forum cracked their master plan. And these people haven't murdered you yet because...they are unable to track you on this online forum? The group of people in control of the entire Earth and the NSA can't get everyone onto their conspriacy and just get rid of them because...why?

If you were part of a massive global conspiracy, would you have a fking youtube channel? Would you proudly walk around with a giant "Kill Me' sign?

Why am I able to read about Klaus Schwab on fking wikipedia? Why is there a World Economic Forum website?
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