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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
The issue is that the girl who chooses you for muscle will leave you once a better option comes along bro, but then again you're probably the same.i posted two of my ex's who i just happened to have on imgur so you can see specific examples of the low value ugly females who really liked me
i know i know they are tatted up muscly degens
i know i know they are tatted up muscly degens
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Yep muscle is definitely important, but its relative to your frame, when u go on steroids u have passed the natural ability of your body and it will look gross. Just like synthetic boobs.
Frame still beat muscles anytime, know of any guys who have like wide ass shoulders, manmore, wide jaw? They will always pull more than a smaller frame guy with loads of muscle but with a weak jaw
Frame still beat muscles anytime, know of any guys who have like wide ass shoulders, manmore, wide jaw? They will always pull more than a smaller frame guy with loads of muscle but with a weak jaw
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Originally Posted By nm1891⏩
Your trolling with your numbers right?I get kinda annoyed by the attention these days tbh. Especially the dudes asking for lifting advice.
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Originally Posted By aspirex⏩
but a small frame guy is going to look like more of a man with more muscle since hes already small framed and definitely going to look better than a small framed guy with minimal muscle.Yep muscle is definitely important, but its relative to your frame, when u go on steroids u have passed the natural ability of your body and it will look gross. Just like synthetic boobs.
Frame still beat muscles anytime, know of any guys who have like wide ass shoulders, manmore, wide jaw? They will always pull more than a smaller frame guy with loads of muscle but with a weak jaw
Frame still beat muscles anytime, know of any guys who have like wide ass shoulders, manmore, wide jaw? They will always pull more than a smaller frame guy with loads of muscle but with a weak jaw
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07-20-2021, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted By aspirex⏩
Saw a guy at the grocery store the other day....dude was a legit 6'10" but not gangly and awkward looking. Just an absolute mogger of moggers.Yep muscle is definitely important, but its relative to your frame, when u go on steroids u have passed the natural ability of your body and it will look gross. Just like synthetic boobs.
Frame still beat muscles anytime, know of any guys who have like wide ass shoulders, manmore, wide jaw? They will always pull more than a smaller frame guy with loads of muscle but with a weak jaw
Frame still beat muscles anytime, know of any guys who have like wide ass shoulders, manmore, wide jaw? They will always pull more than a smaller frame guy with loads of muscle but with a weak jaw
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
I saw a 7 foot guy at the grocery store Saturday but he was gangly and awkward, walking with his arm tucked behind his back and hand wrapped around his elbow from behind, seen a lot of lanky twigs do that. His feet were massive though at least a size 20.Saw a guy at the grocery store the other day....dude was a legit 6'10" but not gangly and awkward looking. Just an absolute mogger of moggers.
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07-20-2021, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
100% of women can look like this for a few years in their prime.This is what “extremely attractive high value females” look like imo.






This does not make them high value. Pros look better.
High value is coming from a rich father with some kind of elite, blue-blood genes. Ivanka is high value while less attractive.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
The guy I saw was as wide as 2 normal guys. He was wearing shorts so you could see his legs weren't toothpicks and neither were his arms. He didn't really look like he lifted but I've never seen a frame mogger like that in my life.I saw a 7 foot guy at the grocery store Saturday but he was gangly and awkward, walking with his arm tucked behind his back and hand wrapped around his elbow from behind, seen a lot of lanky twigs do that. His feet were massive though at least a size 20.
07-20-2021, 07:20 PM
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I’m absolutely ripped to the ****ing gills and let me tell you the op is right...
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Brb sloots licking there lips wanting to suck me
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
Brian Shaw was the biggest eye opener for me. Just a massive sized man, no picture or video does him justice of how big he is in person. Hands are 3x the size of a normal mans hands, hes like 4 feet wide, his arms are like 25 inches quads are like 40 inches waist was wider than my chest. I literally felt like a child being a 6 1 275lb man when i met him.The guy I saw was as wide as 2 normal guys. He was wearing shorts so you could see his legs weren't toothpicks and neither were his arms. He didn't really look like he lifted but I've never seen a frame mogger like that in my life.
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07-20-2021, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
No chance you're 6'1" 275 with prescribed doses, only.Brian Shaw was the biggest eye opener for me. Just a massive sized man, no picture or video does him justice of how big he is in person. Hands are 3x the size of a normal mans hands, hes like 4 feet wide, his arms are like 25 inches quads are like 40 inches waist was wider than my chest. I literally felt like a child being a 6 1 275lb man when i met him.
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
well of course i take fish oil and a multi as wellNo chance you're 6'1" 275 with prescribed doses, only.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
It's crazy when you see one of those super rare specimens in person. They seriously look like they must be from another planet because no other human around them is anywhere near the same size.Brian Shaw was the biggest eye opener for me. Just a massive sized man, no picture or video does him justice of how big he is in person. Hands are 3x the size of a normal mans hands, hes like 4 feet wide, his arms are like 25 inches quads are like 40 inches waist was wider than my chest. I literally felt like a child being a 6 1 275lb man when i met him.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
275? How long you been at itBrian Shaw was the biggest eye opener for me. Just a massive sized man, no picture or video does him justice of how big he is in person. Hands are 3x the size of a normal mans hands, hes like 4 feet wide, his arms are like 25 inches quads are like 40 inches waist was wider than my chest. I literally felt like a child being a 6 1 275lb man when i met him.
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Originally Posted By JoeDelts⏩
nope, and someone like him my animal instincts tell me i would be crushed in a fight no matter how much my life depended on it that man would utterly destroy me without me even leaving a mark. I was literally thinking about it and the reach to try and even hit him in the head would be impossible, and punching him anywhere in the abdomen or kidneys would be pointless with his size and muscle mass, i could aim for the knees but even then his legs are so fukking big and solid i would just break my foot.It's crazy when you see one of those super rare specimens in person. They seriously look like they must be from another planet because no other human around them is anywhere near the same size.
Originally Posted By lowkey94⏩
got to 190 in college lifting like an idiot at 21, 220 a year after being put on trt before even getting into actual bodybuilding, just lifting, I was 25 at the time, about 10lbs a year for 6 years then its leveled off now mostly because I am not trying to build much more mass just get leaner and stay the same weight.275? How long you been at it
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07-20-2021, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Yeah and if you got gun and shot him he's die like anybody else.nope, and someone like him my animal instincts tell me i would be crushed in a fight no matter how much my life depended on it that man would utterly destroy me without me even leaving a mark. I was literally thinking about it and the reach to try and even hit him in the head would be impossible, and punching him anywhere in the abdomen or kidneys would be pointless with his size and muscle mass, i could aim for the knees but even then his legs are so fukking big and solid i would just break my foot.
got to 190 in college lifting like an idiot at 21, 220 a year after being put on trt before even getting into actual bodybuilding, just lifting, I was 25 at the time, about 10lbs a year for 6 years then its leveled off now mostly because I am not trying to build much more mass just get leaner and stay the same weight.
got to 190 in college lifting like an idiot at 21, 220 a year after being put on trt before even getting into actual bodybuilding, just lifting, I was 25 at the time, about 10lbs a year for 6 years then its leveled off now mostly because I am not trying to build much more mass just get leaner and stay the same weight.
His size and strength is his natural gift and ability, there's no need to even compare your self, because you're never going to be him.
You sound like a massive douche who goes around thinking he can bash every guy or bang any girl - fkn primitive kunt.
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Originally Posted By W8isGR8⏩
i don't, there may be a few who do but thats a cope for both men and women, really women do like above average muscle but they dont like total freak of nature muscle.Somebody in another thread said something like:
"Women don't like big muscles, they like average muscle on a large frame"
I think about that a lot
"Women don't like big muscles, they like average muscle on a large frame"
I think about that a lot
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
you need to chill and stop being so defensiveYeah and if you got gun and shot him he's die like anybody else.
His size and strength is his natural gift and ability, there's no need to even compare your self, because you're never going to be him.
You sound like a massive douche who goes around thinking he can bash every guy or bang any girl - fkn primitive kunt.
His size and strength is his natural gift and ability, there's no need to even compare your self, because you're never going to be him.
You sound like a massive douche who goes around thinking he can bash every guy or bang any girl - fkn primitive kunt.
his size and strength is also not his natural gift and ability lol he has been on loads of gear for decades just fyi
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
haha yeah lets see how big and strong you get after decades and decades of gear, you straight the f*ck out douchebagyou need to chill and stop being so defensive
his size and strength is also not his natural gift and ability lol he has been on loads of gear for decades just fyi
his size and strength is also not his natural gift and ability lol he has been on loads of gear for decades just fyi

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Everyone notices big muscles but women mostly tend to prefer aesthetic, athletic bodies. Mr Olympia level beef would turn off about 95% of women
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Originally Posted By donkeydonger⏩
It's not that it would turn them off, it's that somebody who is even remotely in their right mind would not sacrifice their health just to look more muscular.Everyone notices big muscles but women mostly tend to prefer aesthetic, athletic bodies. Mr Olympia level beef would turn off about 95% of women
Hence why these guys usually date down and leech off of girls, rarely ever achieving anything outside of building muscle.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
OJ invalidates any of his or anyone that uses gains/totals.you need to chill and stop being so defensive
his size and strength is also not his natural gift and ability lol he has been on loads of gear for decades just fyi
his size and strength is also not his natural gift and ability lol he has been on loads of gear for decades just fyi
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
See that's just how you view it - somebody else many not, but in general it's looked down upon, because you have to 'pop this' or 'inject that' to manifest a physical change in your physique.OJ invalidates any of his or anyone that uses gains/totals.
So in reality being a successful bodybuilder requires lots of sacrifice, it's exactly what people don't like about it, and why people lie about their use, et - which in and of it self opens up a whole new can on worms.
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Can’t believe this thread made it 9 pages. OP just bragging about how great life is cause he juices. “It’s just hard work and diet bro! You just don’t understand the dedication it takes!”
Right, that’s why you had to hop on gear. Because you didn’t have the hard work and dedication and diet before gear, right? The gear didn’t do anything for you, right?
Brag all you want, OP. You’re a cop using gear. How’s it feel to know that most women would prefer me, my dadbod, and my easygoing personality to a stuck up, focused on diet, gear-using cop?
This coming from a guy who loves cops. And I even like OP. The gear bragging is cringe though.
Right, that’s why you had to hop on gear. Because you didn’t have the hard work and dedication and diet before gear, right? The gear didn’t do anything for you, right?
Brag all you want, OP. You’re a cop using gear. How’s it feel to know that most women would prefer me, my dadbod, and my easygoing personality to a stuck up, focused on diet, gear-using cop?
This coming from a guy who loves cops. And I even like OP. The gear bragging is cringe though.
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Originally Posted By RW2⏩
The issue with OP isn't that he's on gear - it's that he's an arrogant kunt who isn't truly secure with him self, so takes juice in order to feel good and primal.Can’t believe this thread made it 9 pages. OP just bragging about how great life is cause he juices. “It’s just hard work and diet bro! You just don’t understand the dedication it takes!”
Right, that’s why you had to hop on gear. Because you didn’t have the hard work and dedication and diet before gear, right? The gear didn’t do anything for you, right?
Brag all you want, OP. You’re a cop using gear. How’s it feel to know that most women would prefer me, my dadbod, and my easygoing personality to a stuck up, focused on diet, gear-using cop?
This coming from a guy who loves cops. And I even like OP. The gear bragging is cringe though.
Right, that’s why you had to hop on gear. Because you didn’t have the hard work and dedication and diet before gear, right? The gear didn’t do anything for you, right?
Brag all you want, OP. You’re a cop using gear. How’s it feel to know that most women would prefer me, my dadbod, and my easygoing personality to a stuck up, focused on diet, gear-using cop?
This coming from a guy who loves cops. And I even like OP. The gear bragging is cringe though.
I recognise it in him, because i recognise it in my self - i mean, yeah being tall and muscular definitely works, but its definitely like that game of hammer and mole, where you bash it's head in and another one pops up - replace mole with problem and hammer with something outside of your own self.
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Originally Posted By RW2⏩
How am I bragging about gear? I am just stating contrary to current misc belief, women actually do find the big jacked guys very appealing.Can’t believe this thread made it 9 pages. OP just bragging about how great life is cause he juices. “It’s just hard work and diet bro! You just don’t understand the dedication it takes!”
Right, that’s why you had to hop on gear. Because you didn’t have the hard work and dedication and diet before gear, right? The gear didn’t do anything for you, right?
Brag all you want, OP. You’re a cop using gear. How’s it feel to know that most women would prefer me, my dadbod, and my easygoing personality to a stuck up, focused on diet, gear-using cop?
This coming from a guy who loves cops. And I even like OP. The gear bragging is cringe though.
Right, that’s why you had to hop on gear. Because you didn’t have the hard work and dedication and diet before gear, right? The gear didn’t do anything for you, right?
Brag all you want, OP. You’re a cop using gear. How’s it feel to know that most women would prefer me, my dadbod, and my easygoing personality to a stuck up, focused on diet, gear-using cop?
This coming from a guy who loves cops. And I even like OP. The gear bragging is cringe though.
The fact that it is at 9 pages shows this is a good argument where there are a lot of people on both sides of the fence.
Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
its really not the case for me thoughThe issue with OP isn't that he's on gear - it's that he' an arrogant kunt who isn't truly secure with him self, so takes juice in order to feel good and primal.
I recognise it in him, because i recognise it in my self - i mean, yeah being tall and muscular definitely works, but its definitely like that game of hammer and mole, where you bash it's head in and another one pops up - replace mole with problem and hammer with something outside of your own self.
I recognise it in him, because i recognise it in my self - i mean, yeah being tall and muscular definitely works, but its definitely like that game of hammer and mole, where you bash it's head in and another one pops up - replace mole with problem and hammer with something outside of your own self.
I was established in my career, living in a beautiful downtown high rise apartment, dating a misc standards 9/10 olive skinned HBB blonde who treated me like a king, when i got prescribed TRT because my levels were <200 at 25 years old. I just made the decision with how into lifting I was I wasn't going to keep wasting my time lifting and dieting when my testosterone levels were that of a 70 year old man.
After 2 years everyone was asking me if i competed, and from the time i was 21 until i was 27 i looked down on bodybuilding and told myself I was just going to do lifting and eating right for myself. But I decided hey i shouldn't knock it until I try it and it may be fun so I entered my first prep and show and won 1st place. I realized I was pretty good at it so I just kept doing it.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
No you’re absolutely right bruh. Women do love muscle. So I guess you’re right about that. I did pretty well as a natty because women love guys in my profession.How am I bragging about gear? I am just stating contrary to current misc belief, women actually do find the big jacked guys very appealing.
The fact that it is at 9 pages shows this is a good argument where there are a lot of people on both sides of the fence.
The fact that it is at 9 pages shows this is a good argument where there are a lot of people on both sides of the fence.
Strange thing is this forum denies that women care about muscle, then at the same time idolizes Zyzz, who only got attention because of the muscle he gained from gear use.
It’s the not so subtle bragging that rubs people the wrong way. Especially when you seem to acknowledge that you only have muscle because you use exogenous hormones.
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Originally Posted By RW2⏩
Yeah exactly - it's what really irritates people and get's under their skin.It’s the not so subtle bragging that rubs people the wrong way.
You're being competitive with people (other men), yet you're on juice - dude i train 4-6 times a week and eat a healthy protein rich diet everyday, and do my cardio.
If i took a bunch of juice i could probably get to 230-240 lbs lean in a year or two, but i am not going to do that, because it's silly.
But yeah you could say that it's not your issues that i'm not willing to take the risk, and you're right - but this is why people are being disagreeable with you.
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