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post 1643281363 07-20-2021, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By RW2⏩
No you’re absolutely right bruh. Women do love muscle. So I guess you’re right about that. I did pretty well as a natty because women love guys in my profession.

Strange thing is this forum denies that women care about muscle, then at the same time idolizes Zyzz, who only got attention because of the muscle he gained from gear use.

It’s the not so subtle bragging that rubs people the wrong way. Especially when you seem to acknowledge that you only have muscle because you use exogenous hormones.
i dont just have muscle because of TRt as I explained again in the post above how i got started.

100% my avatar picture is when I was 25 right before I started TRT so I had plenty of muscle and was already 220lbs pretty lean. being 6'1" 220 and 10% bf with low T took a lot of years of hard work and dieting and I honestly wasn't going to change more than that, and I stated what swayed the decision for me.

Can you honestly say in my position, sitting in the doctor's office, having the doctor tell you your test levels are something around 170 something, and he wants to start you on TRT so you can sleep better, feel better, look better, have less depression and anxiety, etc... that you would say "nah doc I am good" and continue life with low test?
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
i dont just have muscle because of TRt as I explained again in the post above how i got started.

100% my avatar picture is when I was 25 right before I started TRT so I had plenty of muscle and was already 220lbs pretty lean. being 6'1" 220 and 10% bf with low T took a lot of years of hard work and dieting and I honestly wasn't going to change more than that, and I stated what swayed the decision for me.

Can you honestly say in my position, sitting in the doctor's office, having the doctor tell you your test levels are something around 170 something, and he wants to start you on TRT so you can sleep better, feel better, look better, have less depression and anxiety, etc... that you would say "nah doc I am good" and continue life with low test?
yeah and i am 6'1 220 lbs pretty lean now and i am NOT using gear, yet you're bragging about it to me and others like me

Also i doubt that you're just on TRT mate - i know how the 'trt crowd' thinks
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Yeah exactly - it's what really irritates people and get's under their skin.

You're being competitive with people (other men), yet you're on juice - dude i train 4-6 times a week and eat a healthy protein rich diet everyday, and do my cardio.

If i took a bunch of juice i could probably get to 230-240 lbs lean in a year or two, but i am not going to do that, because it's silly.

But yeah you could say that it's not your issues that i'm not willing to take the risk, and you're right - but this is why people are being disagreeable with you.
I woke up today 6 hours before work so I could take my Acetyl L carnatine and yohimbine HCL and 30oz water before doing 30 minutes fasted cardio then I went home and did 10 sets of vacuum holds and made exactly 60g cream of rice, 3 scoops whey protein, 1 cup blueberries, and 1 tablespoon of honey and peanut butter and let it settle for 30 min and take my morning supplements before going back to the gym to lift for 1.5 hours, threw up once, and then did 15 minutes of posing after. Then went home and ate another cream of rice meal, the exact same except no peanut butter, then went to work and ate my 3 prepped meals then I will go home and eat my last very nutrient specific meal and take my night time supplements.

doing that consistently for years, literally, is one thing that sets me apart besides just TRT

I can literally rattle off every food to the gram I ate today and name every supplement I take and the exact mechanism of action of those supplements, I could post training videos on here where you literally see the muscle im working turn purple because of how intense I lift with my sets and knowing a great deal about biomechanics and lifting to true failure.

Just because someone is on OJ doesnt mean they dont also do an extremely absurd amount of meticulous things at an advanced level to have the physique they have.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
I woke up today 6 hours before work so I could take my Acetyl L carnatine and yohimbine HCL and 30oz water before doing 30 minutes fasted cardio then I went home and did 10 sets of vacuum holds and made exactly 60g cream of rice, 3 scoops whey protein, 1 cup blueberries, and 1 tablespoon of honey and peanut butter and let it settle for 30 min and take my morning supplements before going back to the gym to lift for 1.5 hours, threw up once, and then did 15 minutes of posing after. Then went home and ate another cream of rice meal, the exact same except no peanut butter, then went to work and ate my 3 prepped meals then I will go home and eat my last very nutrient specific meal and take my night time supplements.

doing that consistently for years, literally, is one thing that sets me apart besides just TRT

I can literally rattle off every food to the gram I ate today and name every supplement I take and the exact mechanism of action of those supplements, I could post training videos on here where you literally see the muscle im working turn purple because of how intense I lift with my sets.

Just because someone is on OJ doesnt mean they dont also do an extremely absurd amount of meticulous things at an advanced level to have the physique they have.
What do they first two supps do?
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
I woke up today 6 hours before work so I could take my Acetyl L carnatine and yohimbine HCL and 30oz water before doing 30 minutes fasted cardio then I went home and did 10 sets of vacuum holds and made exactly 60g cream of rice, 3 scoops whey protein, 1 cup blueberries, and 1 tablespoon of honey and peanut butter and let it settle for 30 min and take my morning supplements before going back to the gym to lift for 1.5 hours, threw up once, and then did 15 minutes of posing after. Then went home and ate another cream of rice meal, the exact same except no peanut butter, then went to work and ate my 3 prepped meals then I will go home and eat my last very nutrient specific meal and take my night time supplements.

doing that consistently for years, literally, is one thing that sets me apart besides just TRT

I can literally rattle off every food to the gram I ate today and name every supplement I take and the exact mechanism of action of those supplements, I could post training videos on here where you literally see the muscle im working turn purple because of how intense I lift with my sets and knowing a great deal about biomechanics and lifting to true failure.

Just because someone is on OJ doesnt mean they dont also do an extremely absurd amount of meticulous things at an advanced level to have the physique they have.
I don't doubt that you're a cool dude and that you are committed to your craft - but i doubt that you're on TRT only.
Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
What do they first two supps do?
Acetyl - l - carnatine allows the free fatty acids to move in and out of the different mitochondrial compartments with greater ease, generating ATP, whilst yohimbine HCL allows your body to release the free fatty acids from the 'stubburn fat' areas (lovehandles, chest, etc.
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Originally Posted By GooBaaa⏩
What do they first two supps do?
L carnatine works at the cellular level to produce energy and will use fatty acids preferentially as that source when you are fasted
Acetyl L carnatine is the most bioavailable form of L carnatine taken orally Vs injectible l carnatine and its just not worth it to inject l carnatine in my body every morning for a minor fat burning effect

Yohimbine HCL blocks certain receptors that allow you to have more nitric oxide release and more blood flow which increases your cardiovascular output and ability, basically it makes your cardio more effective. It also can help with ED by opening up the blood vessels is penile blood vessel restriction is the cause of your ED.

As wideoldape said theres some people who believe it can help directly with fat loss through release of FFAs but those are mixed. I believe in it more for the above reason, that it just increases your cardio abilities without needing a stimulant like caffeine which is actually a vaso constrictor and the opposite of what you want before doing cardio even though it gives you energy.
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Do you find that the combo of acetyl l carnatine and yohimbine works?

What are your dosages?
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Muscles means nothing if you are average looking or below average. Most of my friends that pull like crazy don't lift, and those who lift and pull still did when they were malnourished.

Op I hope the drugs you are taking etc, that you're doing it for the right reasons, if you are doing it for girls then in you're in for a rude awakening
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
L carnatine works at the cellular level to produce energy and will use fatty acids preferentially as that source when you are fasted
Acetyl L carnatine is the most bioavailable form of L carnatine taken orally Vs injectible l carnatine and its just not worth it to inject l carnatine in my body every morning for a minor fat burning effect

Yohimbine HCL blocks certain receptors that allow you to have more nitric oxide release and more blood flow which increases your cardiovascular output and ability, basically it makes your cardio more effective. It also can help with ED by opening up the blood vessels is penile blood vessel restriction is the cause of your ED.

As wideoldape said theres some people who believe it can help directly with fat loss through release of FFAs but those are mixed. I believe in it more for the above reason, that it just increases your cardio abilities without needing a stimulant like caffeine which is actually a vaso constrictor and the opposite of what you want before doing cardio even though it gives you energy.
Yohimbine does a lot of things.
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Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
Yohimbine does a lot of things.
Please would you extrapolate on this claim?

Let us know what conclusions your research has let you reach.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
i dont just have muscle because of TRt as I explained again in the post above how i got started.

100% my avatar picture is when I was 25 right before I started TRT so I had plenty of muscle and was already 220lbs pretty lean. being 6'1" 220 and 10% bf with low T took a lot of years of hard work and dieting and I honestly wasn't going to change more than that, and I stated what swayed the decision for me.

Can you honestly say in my position, sitting in the doctor's office, having the doctor tell you your test levels are something around 170 something, and he wants to start you on TRT so you can sleep better, feel better, look better, have less depression and anxiety, etc... that you would say "nah doc I am good" and continue life with low test?
You said somewhere your hair started receding. Was that after the TRT or something else?
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Originally Posted By drvillain⏩
You said somewhere your hair started receding. Was that after the TRT or something else?
Probably genetic tbh
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
Just because someone is on OJ doesnt mean they dont also do an extremely absurd amount of meticulous things at an advanced level to have the physique they have.
This is what people don't understand about juice. If you have a very firm idea of what you're doing and extreme dedication then you can go much further than natural. If you don't then you end up looking like zhengterry.
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Do you find that the combo of acetyl l carnatine and yohimbine works?

What are your dosages?
I mean at least some placebo effect hopefully, there’s really no way of quantifying how much actual fat loss it does create.

I use 20mg yohombine and 3g alcar based on my size
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Op this is not normal. You have mental disorders srs.

Body dysmorphia

OCD

Eating disorder

Exercise addiction

Other OCD compulsive type behavior
men do well with goals and real competition.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Sure but what op is doing is very far beyond that and pathological. It is severely disordered OCD behavior.

Op clearly has an eating disorder, is severely micromanaging and controlling his intake and is throwing up. In addition to using extreme amounts of supplements and drugs. And with severe exercise addiction and body dysmorphia. He is not well srs.
Lol @ you getting personal after you lost the argument.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Sure but what op is doing is very far beyond that and pathological. It is severely disordered OCD behavior.

Op clearly has an eating disorder, is severely micromanaging and controlling his intake and is throwing up. In addition to using extreme amounts of supplements and drugs. And with severe exercise addiction and body dysmorphia. He is not well srs.
I was happy when I lived with an eating disorder.

He said he threw up incidentally, I think, not on purpose. Men are not addicted to exercise. Androgens in your brain make anything besides exercise feel annoying.
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Jestbrah, what benefits did you find that TRT had on depression / anxiety when you hopped on ?

My levels were super low over three blood tests and I’m debating whether to hop on. I’m 33. Have felt massively stressed / as if adrenaline is dumping all the time despite having no reason that it should be.

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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
Op this is not normal. You have mental disorders srs.

Body dysmorphia

OCD

Eating disorder

Exercise addiction

Other OCD compulsive type behavior
If he's really a cop (I'm not familiar with OP) then they go thru a strict hiring process that includes psychological tests and polygraph tests. So he's fine. No mental disorders.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
I woke up today 6 hours before work so I could take my Acetyl L carnatine and yohimbine HCL and 30oz water before doing 30 minutes fasted cardio then I went home and did 10 sets of vacuum holds and made exactly 60g cream of rice, 3 scoops whey protein, 1 cup blueberries, and 1 tablespoon of honey and peanut butter and let it settle for 30 min and take my morning supplements before going back to the gym to lift for 1.5 hours, threw up once, and then did 15 minutes of posing after. Then went home and ate another cream of rice meal, the exact same except no peanut butter, then went to work and ate my 3 prepped meals then I will go home and eat my last very nutrient specific meal and take my night time supplements.

doing that consistently for years, literally, is one thing that sets me apart besides just TRT

I can literally rattle off every food to the gram I ate today and name every supplement I take and the exact mechanism of action of those supplements, I could post training videos on here where you literally see the muscle im working turn purple because of how intense I lift with my sets and knowing a great deal about biomechanics and lifting to true failure.

Just because someone is on OJ doesnt mean they dont also do an extremely absurd amount of meticulous things at an advanced level to have the physique they have.
Jeez. I trained with an IFBB Pro who sadly died in a car accident recently so I'm heartbroken over her after a 15 year friendship. I know what she went through in terms of diet and training.

My main sport is tennis and it is SO much easier to play tennis leagues and tournaments than to do all of this. I don't know how you guys do all of this. Hats off to you because it's a lot of work 24/7 to be a bodybuilder.

I know SS is concerned about the throwing up so I hope that's not bulimia. I heard that a lot of the female competitors would throw up a cheat meal and that's scary as one who also battles eating disorders.
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Cliffs:
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
that was only when i wasnt going to make weight so we got drastic and dropped calories to 1300 and cardio to 1.75 hrs, was worth a try to see if my body could take it and I made weight, with something like that you either take the chance or give up, i took the chance.
I'm surprised you survived that. Yikes.
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That's cool op I just hope one day with enough gear and dedication you get to me level and see how much better it could even be



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Why be taken OP when you can have all of these gorgeous sloots?
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
pretty sure 99% of miscers would drop dead for all of these girls except the 1st one, which still at least 70% would in real life.

these are all extremely attractive high value females
Wouldn't be interested in any of them except the brunette and I'd try to ghost catabolize her muscle mass, you can keep the rest srs


And when will the misc learn it's all about the face, then height, then frame, then leanness.... then muscle mass.
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