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post 1643459423 07-23-2021, 12:48 PM
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Solve this logic puzzle

John has 2 Super Bowl tickets, and feels like giving them away.

Here are the rules: You get to make 1 statement to John. If it is true, he gives you either one or both tickets. If it is false, you get nothing.

What could you say so that you can be sure to receive both Super Bowl tickets from John?

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post 1643459643 07-23-2021, 12:50 PM
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Oh ok.
post 1643459653 07-23-2021, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
What could you say so that you can be sure to receive both Super Bowl tickets from John?
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post 1643459843 07-23-2021, 12:54 PM
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post 1643459903 07-23-2021, 12:55 PM
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You have 2 Super Bowl tickets, and you feel like giving them away.
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post 1643459933 07-23-2021, 12:56 PM
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post 1643459943 07-23-2021, 12:56 PM
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I'd say....Getter_dones toilet is as black as a clowns pocket.......
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post 1643460223 07-23-2021, 01:02 PM
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post 1643460253 07-23-2021, 01:03 PM
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You will need the vaccine to attend the Super Bowl
post 1643460263 07-23-2021, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Bosko
I'd say....Getter_dones toilet is as black as a clowns pocket.......
Gotta agree with this one.
post 1643460303 07-23-2021, 01:03 PM
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post 1643460533 07-23-2021, 01:06 PM
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You won't give me 1 ticket.

If the statement is false, then it's true. Contradiction. If it's true, then the only way it will be consistent is if he gives me 2 tickets.
post 1643460543 07-23-2021, 01:07 PM
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The Cowboys aren't playing.
post 1643460573 07-23-2021, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Getter_done
Oh ok.
If you said "Oh ok" to John, this not a statement that is true or false, so it is certainly not a true statement that would guarantee you both tickets.
Originally Posted By Bosko
I'd say....Getter_dones toilet is as black as a clowns pocket.......
Let's suppose for the sake of argument Getter-done's toiletisas black as a clowns pocket. Does this mean he gives you the 2 tickets?

It appears a correct answer has not yet been given.

Edit: wincel with the correct answer above. Gjdm. Going to make another post in a bit.
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post 1643460673 07-23-2021, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
If you said "Oh ok" to John, this not a statement that is true or false, so it is certainly not a true statement that would guarantee you both tickets.



Let's suppose for the sake of argument Getter-done's toiletisas black as a clowns pocket. Does this mean he gives you the 2 tickets?

It appears a correct answer has not yet been given.
What about my answer?

"You won't give me 1 ticket."
post 1643460753 07-23-2021, 01:10 PM
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post 1643460803 07-23-2021, 01:11 PM
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hey john give me the tickets
post 1643460953 07-23-2021, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By wincel
What about my answer?

"You won't give me 1 ticket."
Yes this works. Wincel got it. Well done
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post 1643461413 07-23-2021, 01:19 PM
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Ill suck ur dick for both tickets

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post 1643461643 07-23-2021, 01:22 PM
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You will give me either zero or two tickets.
post 1643462683 07-23-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By mesobuild
You will give me either zero or two tickets.
Yes, essentially wincel's answer worded differently
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post 1643463373 07-23-2021, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Yes this works. Wincel got it. Well done
I guess it should be you won't give me only 1 ticket since if you give me 2 tickets, you also gave me 1 ticket.
post 1643468973 07-23-2021, 03:14 PM
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Ok that was an intro problem. In the next post are a few more, with following key based on how many you solve.

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post 1643469143 07-23-2021, 03:16 PM
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What is true cannot be false. But if our eyes are false then what does that make mirrors.
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post 1643469363 07-23-2021, 03:19 PM
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Journey to Knight and Knave Island:

On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.

Question 1
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are both knaves". What are they?

Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?

Question 3(medium)
You come up to a fork in the road that splits two ways, and one way leads to the palace, but you dont know which way it is. An inhabitant of the island is standing by the fork, and you dont know if he is a knight or knave. What single question can you ask him, with a yes or no answer, that will tell you by his answer which path is the correct path to the palace?

Question 4(hard)
Make up a question that a knight could answer yes, but not no, and that a knave could not answer at all*.

Question 5(hard)
Make up a question that neither a knight nor a knave could answer at all*.

*: and not because ofinsufficient information. In other words, you cant hold a playing card face down which the individual hasnt seen, and ask "is this card a red?"


Unrelated to knights and knaves, but this question unlocks the key to infinity.
Question 6

There is an infinite line of boxes, starting with Box 1. So the line looks like Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5,........ each box has a different set of positive whole numbers in it. So we might have something like:

Box 1: {3,6,8,9}
Box 2: The set of all positive even whole numbers
Box 3: {1,4}
Box 4: The set of all positive whole numbers less than 10
Box 5: {3837,888}
....
etc

We dont know what's in the specific boxes in front of you, that is just an example. In the general case, given a line of numbered boxes in front of you (Box 1,2,3,4,5......, each contains a different set of positive integers), can you name a set of positive whole numbers that is not inside any of the boxes?
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post 1643469433 07-23-2021, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Better
What is true cannot be false. But if our eyes are false then what does that make mirrors.
Mirrors as a whole must be false as well. Your eyes can function as mirrors, and so if eyes are somehow false, so too much be mirrors since an eye could be viewed as a mirror.
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Hey John, close your eyes.

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Originally Posted By numberguy12
Journey to Knight and Knave Island:

On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.

Question 1
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are both knaves". What are they?

Knave and Knight.
Proof:
Knight would say he is a knight. The speaker is a knave.
The other must be a knight to make the statement false.

Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?

Both knaves.
Proof:
A knight would not be able to say they are different, and the other is a knight. The speaker must be a knave.
The other being a knight would make the knave honest. The other must be a knave.

Question 3(medium)
You come up to a fork in the road that splits two ways, and one way leads to the palace, but you dont know which way it is. An inhabitant of the island is standing by the fork, and you dont know if he is a knight or knave. What single question can you ask him, with a yes or no answer, that will tell you by his answer which path is the correct path to the palace?

Would the opposite form to yourself (knight/knave) tell me the left path leads to the palace?

Proof:
Knight would say, "yes," if it does not, "no" if it does.
Knave would lie "yes" if it does not because he cannot say the truth, "no".
The knave would lie "no" if the left path does lead to the palace because he cannot tell you the truth of "yes".






Question 4(hard)
Make up a question that a knight could answer yes, but not no, and that a knave could not answer at all*.

Are you telling the truth?
Question 5(hard)
Make up a question that neither a knight nor a knave could answer at all*.

*: and not because ofinsufficient information. In other words, you cant hold a playing card face down which the individual hasnt seen, and ask "is this card a red?"

What would the opposite of yourself (knight/knave) say is the correct path to the castle?

Unrelated to knights and knaves, but this question unlocks the key to infinity.
Question 6

There is an infinite line of boxes, starting with Box 1. So the line looks like Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5,........ each box has a different set of positive whole numbers in it. So we might have something like:

Box 1: {3,6,8,9}
Box 2: The set of all positive even whole numbers
Box 3: {1,4}
Box 4: The set of all positive whole numbers less than 10
Box 5: {3837,888}
....
etc

We dont know what's in the specific boxes in front of you, that is just an example. In the general case, given a line of numbered boxes in front of you (Box 1,2,3,4,5......, each contains a different set of positive integers), can you name a set of positive whole numbers that is not inside any of the boxes?
The set of natural numbers minus the first shared element with each box, in order.
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