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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
1-3 are definitely correct. You actually have a different answer for 3 than what I have, and I like that one.1) One is a knight. The other is a knave. The knave is the one who told you this.
2) Both are knaves.
3) Is the statement you are a knave xor I am going the right direction true? If right direction, Knave says yes. Knight says yes. If wrong direction, Knave says no. Knight says no.
4) If I say you're a knight or I am lying, is it true?
5) If I say I am lying, is the statement true?
2) Both are knaves.
3) Is the statement you are a knave xor I am going the right direction true? If right direction, Knave says yes. Knight says yes. If wrong direction, Knave says no. Knight says no.
4) If I say you're a knight or I am lying, is it true?
5) If I say I am lying, is the statement true?
4-5 are somewhat murky territory, and I have something different (as the problem is stated though, I'll accept). If I can figure out how to word my thoughts better, I'll write more about it.
6) Not in general. Consider the case of each box having its respective integer in there. The union of the boxes is clearly the natural numbers so there is no natural number not included in the boxes.
I feel like I misunderstood 6.
I feel like I misunderstood 6.
Originally Posted By mesobuild⏩
My wording for 6 was a bit confusing, let me word it differently.The set of natural numbers minus the first shared element with each box, in order.
John provides you with an infinite line of boxes, Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5.......in each box there is a description of a set of positive integers (and by mathematical convention, this could possibly be the empty set).
John claims that every set of positive integers (including, by convention, the empty set) can be found somewhere in this line of boxes.
Prove that John's claim is wrong. In other words, name a set of positive integers that does not belong to any box.
I like mesobuild's way of thinking. Can anyone show why that particular set does not work in the above way the problem is worded?
btw the key above was more of a joke in fun, besides the first two questions, these arent simple questions.
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07-24-2021, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
Oh #6 is clearly wrong. There is no bijection from a set to its power set. The set of subsets of a given set has a strictly larger cardinality by Cantor's Theorem. What he is saying is every possible subset of natural numbers appears on this list. Not possible because it is a countable list.1-3 are definitely correct. You actually have a different answer for 3 than what I have, and I like that one.
4-5 are somewhat murky territory, and I have something different (as the problem is stated though, I'll accept). If I can figure out how to word my thoughts better, I'll write more about it.
My wording for 6 was a bit confusing, let me word it differently.
John provides you with an infinite line of boxes, Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5.......in each box there is a description of a set of positive integers (and by mathematical convention, this could possibly be the empty set).
John claims that every set of positive integers (including, by convention, the empty set) can be found somewhere in this line of boxes.
Prove that John's claim is wrong. In other words, name a set of positive integers that does not belong to any box.
I like mesobuild's way of thinking. Can anyone show why that particular set does not work in the above way the problem is worded?
btw the key above was more of a joke in fun, besides the first two questions, these arent simple questions.
4-5 are somewhat murky territory, and I have something different (as the problem is stated though, I'll accept). If I can figure out how to word my thoughts better, I'll write more about it.
My wording for 6 was a bit confusing, let me word it differently.
John provides you with an infinite line of boxes, Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5.......in each box there is a description of a set of positive integers (and by mathematical convention, this could possibly be the empty set).
John claims that every set of positive integers (including, by convention, the empty set) can be found somewhere in this line of boxes.
Prove that John's claim is wrong. In other words, name a set of positive integers that does not belong to any box.
I like mesobuild's way of thinking. Can anyone show why that particular set does not work in the above way the problem is worded?
btw the key above was more of a joke in fun, besides the first two questions, these arent simple questions.
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Originally Posted By wincel⏩
It's hard to ask this riddle because of people who know the mathematics haha. This is right.Oh #6 is clearly wrong. There is no bijection from a set to its power set. The set of subsets of a given set has a strictly larger cardinality by Cantor's Theorem. What he is saying is every possible subset of natural numbers appears on this list. Not possible because it is a countable list.
Can you name a set of positive integers that is not in any box?
Edit: that is correct, that particular set cannot be in any of the boxes. This shows that the set of all sets of natural numbers is a larger size (larger infinity) than the set of all natural numbers. And in general, there is no largest infinity, one of the most interesting discoveries in mathematics. Gjdm
btw: the above puzzles are largely from Smullyan. If anyone is interested in fun and challenging puzzles, check out his books.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
'John you have two tickets'.John has 2 Super Bowl tickets, and feels like giving them away.
Here are the rules: You get to make 1 statement to John. If it is true, he gives you either one or both tickets. If it is false, you get nothing.
What could you say so that you can be sure to receive both Super Bowl tickets from John?
Thought the misc could use a break from the endless covid threads.
Here are the rules: You get to make 1 statement to John. If it is true, he gives you either one or both tickets. If it is false, you get nothing.
What could you say so that you can be sure to receive both Super Bowl tickets from John?
Thought the misc could use a break from the endless covid threads.
True statement = both tickets thanks gg ez
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
A true statement just means he gives you 1 or 2 tickets, puzzle is looking for a way to guarantee he gives you both tickets.'John you have two tickets'.
True statement = both tickets thanks gg ez
True statement = both tickets thanks gg ez
A lot of responses on the first page seemed to miss this as well.
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07-24-2021, 09:20 AM
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See they think I'm just being condescending when I call them idiots. They don't understand...they are idiots!A true statement just means he gives you 1 or 2 tickets, puzzle is looking for a way to guarantee he gives you both tickets.
A lot of responses on the first page seemed to miss this as well.
A lot of responses on the first page seemed to miss this as well.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
"You're going to give me an even number of tickets."John has 2 Super Bowl tickets, and feels like giving them away.
Here are the rules: You get to make 1 statement to John. If it is true, he gives you either one or both tickets. If it is false, you get nothing.
What could you say so that you can be sure to receive both Super Bowl tickets from John?
Thought the misc could use a break from the endless covid threads.
Here are the rules: You get to make 1 statement to John. If it is true, he gives you either one or both tickets. If it is false, you get nothing.
What could you say so that you can be sure to receive both Super Bowl tickets from John?
Thought the misc could use a break from the endless covid threads.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
My own answers to 1-5Journey to Knight and Knave Island:
On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.
Question 1
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are both knaves". What are they?
Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?
Question 3(medium)
You come up to a fork in the road that splits two ways, and one way leads to the palace, but you dont know which way it is. An inhabitant of the island is standing by the fork, and you dont know if he is a knight or knave. What single question can you ask him, with a yes or no answer, that will tell you by his answer which path is the correct path to the palace?
Question 4(hard)
Make up a question that a knight could answer yes, but not no, and that a knave could not answer at all*.
Question 5(hard)
Make up a question that neither a knight nor a knave could answer at all*.
*: and not because ofinsufficient information. In other words, you cant hold a playing card face down which the individual hasnt seen, and ask "is this card a red?"
Unrelated to knights and knaves, but this question unlocks the key to infinity.
Question 6
There is an infinite line of boxes, starting with Box 1. So the line looks like Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5,........ each box has a different set of positive whole numbers in it. So we might have something like:
Box 1: {3,6,8,9}
Box 2: The set of all positive even whole numbers
Box 3: {1,4}
Box 4: The set of all positive whole numbers less than 10
Box 5: {3837,888}
....
etc
We dont know what's in the specific boxes in front of you, that is just an example. In the general case, given a line of numbered boxes in front of you (Box 1,2,3,4,5......, each contains a different set of positive integers), can you name a set of positive whole numbers that is not inside any of the boxes?
On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.
Question 1
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are both knaves". What are they?
Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?
Question 3(medium)
You come up to a fork in the road that splits two ways, and one way leads to the palace, but you dont know which way it is. An inhabitant of the island is standing by the fork, and you dont know if he is a knight or knave. What single question can you ask him, with a yes or no answer, that will tell you by his answer which path is the correct path to the palace?
Question 4(hard)
Make up a question that a knight could answer yes, but not no, and that a knave could not answer at all*.
Question 5(hard)
Make up a question that neither a knight nor a knave could answer at all*.
*: and not because ofinsufficient information. In other words, you cant hold a playing card face down which the individual hasnt seen, and ask "is this card a red?"
Unrelated to knights and knaves, but this question unlocks the key to infinity.
Question 6
There is an infinite line of boxes, starting with Box 1. So the line looks like Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5,........ each box has a different set of positive whole numbers in it. So we might have something like:
Box 1: {3,6,8,9}
Box 2: The set of all positive even whole numbers
Box 3: {1,4}
Box 4: The set of all positive whole numbers less than 10
Box 5: {3837,888}
....
etc
We dont know what's in the specific boxes in front of you, that is just an example. In the general case, given a line of numbered boxes in front of you (Box 1,2,3,4,5......, each contains a different set of positive integers), can you name a set of positive whole numbers that is not inside any of the boxes?
1) The one who spoke is a knave, the other is a knight.
2) Both are knaves
3) "If I asked you which road leads to the palace, what would you tell me?". They will answer with the road leading to the palace, no matter if they are a knight or knave.
4) "Will your response to this question be truthful?"
5) "If I asked a knight and then a knave this question, and the knight answered yes, would they have the same answer?"
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
#3 is asking for yes/no question, so as stated that does not work. However, I like the approach, and if you can transform that to a yes/no question, it should work.My own answers to 1-5
1) The one who spoke is a knave, the other is a knight.
2) Both are knaves
3) "If I asked you which road leads to the palace, what would you tell me?". They will answer with the road leading to the palace, no matter if they are a knight or knave.
4) "Will your response to this question be truthful?"
5) "If I asked a knight and then a knave this question, and the knight answered yes, would they have the same answer?"
1) The one who spoke is a knave, the other is a knight.
2) Both are knaves
3) "If I asked you which road leads to the palace, what would you tell me?". They will answer with the road leading to the palace, no matter if they are a knight or knave.
4) "Will your response to this question be truthful?"
5) "If I asked a knight and then a knave this question, and the knight answered yes, would they have the same answer?"
#4: you are essentially asking "are you a knight?". A knave would merely reply "yes".
#5: I like the approach here....the question as-is is nonsensical though, surely a knight would say no, as different types cannot say the same thing, but then the question itself is assuming a knight answered yes to this question. I will expand more on 4 and 5 in a second, if I can figure out how to post on here without getting a bb.com error.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
For 4, ask them "Will your response to this question be "Yes"?#3 is asking for yes/no question, so as stated that does not work. However, I like the approach, and if you can transform that to a yes/no question, it should work.
#4: you are essentially asking "are you a knight?". A knave would merely reply "yes".
#5: I like the approach here....the question as-is is nonsensical though, surely a knight would say no, as different types cannot say the same thing, but then the question itself is assuming a knight answered yes to this question. I will expand more on 4 and 5 in a second, if I can figure out how to post on here without getting a bb.com error.
#4: you are essentially asking "are you a knight?". A knave would merely reply "yes".
#5: I like the approach here....the question as-is is nonsensical though, surely a knight would say no, as different types cannot say the same thing, but then the question itself is assuming a knight answered yes to this question. I will expand more on 4 and 5 in a second, if I can figure out how to post on here without getting a bb.com error.
For 5, different types can have the same response to the same question...see question 3 above where both the knight and the knave tell you which road leads to the palace.
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John has tickets.
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4)If you are a knight then you won't lie to me
5) You will not be able to answer the next question that I ask truthfully
5) You will not be able to answer the next question that I ask truthfully
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
Those are both statements, not questions4)If you are a knight then you won't lie to me
5) You will not be able to answer the next question that I ask truthfully
5) You will not be able to answer the next question that I ask truthfully
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
You're right, nvmThose are both statements, not questions
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
#2 can't be answered without more detail. Can knaves say true clauses within a compound boolean statement that is overall false? Or do all clauses have to be false that a knave says?Journey to Knight and Knave Island:
On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.
Question 1
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are both knaves". What are they?
Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?
Question 3(medium)
You come up to a fork in the road that splits two ways, and one way leads to the palace, but you dont know which way it is. An inhabitant of the island is standing by the fork, and you dont know if he is a knight or knave. What single question can you ask him, with a yes or no answer, that will tell you by his answer which path is the correct path to the palace?
Question 4(hard)
Make up a question that a knight could answer yes, but not no, and that a knave could not answer at all*.
Question 5(hard)
Make up a question that neither a knight nor a knave could answer at all*.
*: and not because ofinsufficient information. In other words, you cant hold a playing card face down which the individual hasnt seen, and ask "is this card a red?"
Unrelated to knights and knaves, but this question unlocks the key to infinity.
Question 6
There is an infinite line of boxes, starting with Box 1. So the line looks like Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5,........ each box has a different set of positive whole numbers in it. So we might have something like:
Box 1: {3,6,8,9}
Box 2: The set of all positive even whole numbers
Box 3: {1,4}
Box 4: The set of all positive whole numbers less than 10
Box 5: {3837,888}
....
etc
We dont know what's in the specific boxes in front of you, that is just an example. In the general case, given a line of numbered boxes in front of you (Box 1,2,3,4,5......, each contains a different set of positive integers), can you name a set of positive whole numbers that is not inside any of the boxes?
On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.
Question 1
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are both knaves". What are they?
Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?
Question 3(medium)
You come up to a fork in the road that splits two ways, and one way leads to the palace, but you dont know which way it is. An inhabitant of the island is standing by the fork, and you dont know if he is a knight or knave. What single question can you ask him, with a yes or no answer, that will tell you by his answer which path is the correct path to the palace?
Question 4(hard)
Make up a question that a knight could answer yes, but not no, and that a knave could not answer at all*.
Question 5(hard)
Make up a question that neither a knight nor a knave could answer at all*.
*: and not because ofinsufficient information. In other words, you cant hold a playing card face down which the individual hasnt seen, and ask "is this card a red?"
Unrelated to knights and knaves, but this question unlocks the key to infinity.
Question 6
There is an infinite line of boxes, starting with Box 1. So the line looks like Box 1, Box 2, Box 3, Box 4, Box 5,........ each box has a different set of positive whole numbers in it. So we might have something like:
Box 1: {3,6,8,9}
Box 2: The set of all positive even whole numbers
Box 3: {1,4}
Box 4: The set of all positive whole numbers less than 10
Box 5: {3837,888}
....
etc
We dont know what's in the specific boxes in front of you, that is just an example. In the general case, given a line of numbered boxes in front of you (Box 1,2,3,4,5......, each contains a different set of positive integers), can you name a set of positive whole numbers that is not inside any of the boxes?
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Originally Posted By BLOATMOGGER⏩
#4 still not correct. A knight could respond "no".For 4, ask them "Will your response to this question be "Yes"?
For 5, different types can have the same response to the same question...see question 3 above where both the knight and the knave tell you which road leads to the palace.
For 5, different types can have the same response to the same question...see question 3 above where both the knight and the knave tell you which road leads to the palace.
Good catch about 5, but only in very particular types of questions can a knight and knave both answer the same thing to a yes/no question. Explain exactly why you think that question works, why neither can answer. Id be curious to hear your thoughts. I am trying to write more about 4 and 5, but it wont let me bc the access denied error.
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4) Is it true that only Knights will tell the truth?
5) Will you answer the next question that I ask you truthfully?
5) Will you answer the next question that I ask you truthfully?
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
4) Knave says "No"4) Is it true that only Knights will tell the truth?
5) Will you answer the next question that I ask you truthfully?
5) Will you answer the next question that I ask you truthfully?
5) Knight says "Yes"
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
A knave would respond "no" to your #4, so it wouldnt work.4) Is it true that only Knights will tell the truth?
5) Can you answer the next question that I ask you truthfully?
5) Can you answer the next question that I ask you truthfully?
For #5, if Im interpreting your question correctly (you mean thenextquestion after that one?), this appears it would not fit the problem, as it would be an issue of insufficient information....the knight does not know what the next question even is.
The sequence could possibly go:
"Can you answer the next question that I ask you correctly?"
Knight: Yes
"What is 2+2?"
Knight: 4
In this case, the knight answered yes to the first question, so wouldnt work for the problem.
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Originally Posted By HokieBrah⏩
A knave can only say false statements. A compound statement such as “X and Y” is false exactly when at least one of X,Y is false. So a knave can say “X and Y” if, for example, X is true and Y is false.#2 can't be answered without more detail. Can knaves say true clauses within a compound boolean statement that is overall false? Or do all clauses have to be false that a knave says?
example: a Knave can say “the earth is round and 5=7”, even though the earth actually is round [much to the dismay of flat earthers on the misc]. Because the overall statement is false.
In #2, certainly the person speaking can’t be a knight, for if he was then they’d both be knights and they’d also have to be different types. So the person speaking is a knave. But since he is a knave, at least one of
1. We are different types
2. He is a knight
is false. If the first is false, then they are the same type and must both be knaves. If the second is false, then the other is a knave. In either case, both of them must be knaves.
Some good discussion on 4 and 5 above. The answer Smullyan has to those questions has not yet been given [although answers are not unique]. I think if Bloat can phrase his answer to 3 in the form of a yes/no question, this might help in formulating something that works for 5 as well.
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Originally Posted By numberguy12⏩
A tinder match...Journey to Knight and Knave Island:
On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.
Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?
On this island people are either knights who always tell true statements, or knaves who always tell false ones (Im sure you've seen these problems before). If some random guy comes up to you and says "Im a knight", you cannot be sure if its a knight telling the truth or a knave saying a falsehood. If someone says a square has 5 sides, he must be a knave, etc.
Question 2
Two guys come up to you and one says "We are different types and he is a knight". What are they?
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage⏩
My bad for not following up on this.bump
So a question that works for #4:
Is it the case that either you are a knight, or that yes is your answer to this question?
A knight couldn’t say no, because indeed he is a knight. Clearly he could say yes. A knave couldn’t say yes, because then yes is his answer to the question and thus he’d be saying something correct. A knave couldn’t say no because again this would be truthful [surely he isn’t a knight and his answer is not yes].
A question that works for #5:
Either
Is it the case that you are either a knight who will answer no to this question or a knave who will answer yes?
Or another one that works, and is more interesting, is:
Are you the type who could claim no is your answer to this question?
Whenever you ask a knight or knave “are you the type that would claim X”, then a yes answer means X is true, and a no answer means X is false*. Thus in this case, whether the person is a knight or knave, a yes answer would mean the answer is no, and a no answer would mean the answer is yes, either way a contradiction.
*: it is interesting that the following two questions could potentially result in different answers in knight/knave problems:
1. “Does 2+2=4?”
2. “Would you say 2+2=4?”
(or “are you a type that would say 2+2=4?”)
A knave would say no to [1], but would say yes to [2]. Because in [2], surely he would never say 2+2=4 [thus he’ll lie and say he would say it]. You can go through the 4 cases and see pretty quickly that a yes answer to “are you the type what would say X” means X is true, a no answer means X is false. Regardless if the person you are asking is a knight or knave.
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Ok, one last batch of questions. Anyone want to give them a shot? Not necessarily all of them, just any of them.
Here are the rules. On planet misc, everyone is either a green or a red. Each person is also either from the northern hemisphere or the southern hemisphere. If from the northern hemisphere, a green always tells the truth, and a red always says a false statement [the way it should be right? green- truths, red- false nonsense]. But if they are from the southern hemisphere.....everything is reversed! Greens from the southern hemisphere always tell a falsehood, and reds from the southern hemisphere always tell a truth [something we are not used to here on earthly misc]. So there are 4 total types here: green northerner, green southerner, red northerner, and red southerner. So for example, if the person says 2+2=4, then they could be either a green northerner, or a red southerner, but you dont know which. If someone says a triangle has 4 sides, they are either a red northerner or green southerner, but you dont know which. You take a journey to this strange planet, and here's what happens.....
Question 1
You encounter someone lifting weights on the side of the road. He says "I am a red northerner".
What is his color, and which hemisphere is he from?
Question 2
You next encounter two guys, Chad and Timmy, arguing about whether Misc planet is flat. They take a break from their mindless debate and address you:
Chad says: "I am a green northerner"
Timmy says two things to you....
-"I am a green"
then,
-"I am a northerner"
Can you deduce what Chad is [color, hemisphere]? What about Timmy?
Question 3
You encounter some guy in a field rambling about IQ and 2012. What single question can you ask to deduce his color?
Question 4[hard]
You find yourself in a courtroom where 3 miscers, John, William, and Thomas, are on trial for stealing a container of protein powder. One of them is guilty, but no one knows which one. Here is the transcript of the trial:
Judge [to John]: What do you know about the theft?
John: The thief is a red.
Judge: Is he a northerner or southerner?
John: He is a northerner.
Judge [to William]: What do you know about John?
William: John is a red.
Judge: Northerner or southerner?
William: John is a southerner.
The judge then asked Thomas, "are you by any chance the thief?". Thomas answered [yes or no]....then the Judge knew who stole the protein powder and sentenced him. Who stole the protein powder?
Question 5
You meet an incel relaxing on the beach (by himself, of course). He says to you, "If I am a red, then I'm a northerner".
Can it be figured out what he is? If so, what is he?
Question 6
You learn the following information about planet misc: it is the case that brothers are always the same color [they can be from different hemispheres, but always the same color].
In your travels on Misc planet, you finally meet two R/Pers, Karl and Brian, shouting about some political nonsense or other. They take a break and say the following to you:
Karl: Brian is from the north.
Brian: In fact both of us are from the north.
Karl: That is not true!
Brian: Karl and I are brothers.
Are they brothers? What are Karl and Brian's colors and where are they from?
Here are the rules. On planet misc, everyone is either a green or a red. Each person is also either from the northern hemisphere or the southern hemisphere. If from the northern hemisphere, a green always tells the truth, and a red always says a false statement [the way it should be right? green- truths, red- false nonsense]. But if they are from the southern hemisphere.....everything is reversed! Greens from the southern hemisphere always tell a falsehood, and reds from the southern hemisphere always tell a truth [something we are not used to here on earthly misc]. So there are 4 total types here: green northerner, green southerner, red northerner, and red southerner. So for example, if the person says 2+2=4, then they could be either a green northerner, or a red southerner, but you dont know which. If someone says a triangle has 4 sides, they are either a red northerner or green southerner, but you dont know which. You take a journey to this strange planet, and here's what happens.....
Question 1
You encounter someone lifting weights on the side of the road. He says "I am a red northerner".
What is his color, and which hemisphere is he from?
Question 2
You next encounter two guys, Chad and Timmy, arguing about whether Misc planet is flat. They take a break from their mindless debate and address you:
Chad says: "I am a green northerner"
Timmy says two things to you....
-"I am a green"
then,
-"I am a northerner"
Can you deduce what Chad is [color, hemisphere]? What about Timmy?
Question 3
You encounter some guy in a field rambling about IQ and 2012. What single question can you ask to deduce his color?
Question 4[hard]
You find yourself in a courtroom where 3 miscers, John, William, and Thomas, are on trial for stealing a container of protein powder. One of them is guilty, but no one knows which one. Here is the transcript of the trial:
Judge [to John]: What do you know about the theft?
John: The thief is a red.
Judge: Is he a northerner or southerner?
John: He is a northerner.
Judge [to William]: What do you know about John?
William: John is a red.
Judge: Northerner or southerner?
William: John is a southerner.
The judge then asked Thomas, "are you by any chance the thief?". Thomas answered [yes or no]....then the Judge knew who stole the protein powder and sentenced him. Who stole the protein powder?
Question 5
You meet an incel relaxing on the beach (by himself, of course). He says to you, "If I am a red, then I'm a northerner".
Can it be figured out what he is? If so, what is he?
Question 6
You learn the following information about planet misc: it is the case that brothers are always the same color [they can be from different hemispheres, but always the same color].
In your travels on Misc planet, you finally meet two R/Pers, Karl and Brian, shouting about some political nonsense or other. They take a break and say the following to you:
Karl: Brian is from the north.
Brian: In fact both of us are from the north.
Karl: That is not true!
Brian: Karl and I are brothers.
Are they brothers? What are Karl and Brian's colors and where are they from?
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