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post 1644322563 08-05-2021, 10:57 AM
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I used to watch his videos. At one point in time he actually talked normal.
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post 1644322673 08-05-2021, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Weight loss ultimately comes down to a calorie deficit, this is basic science and human functioning no matter how you want to slice it or how complicated you want to make it.
Yes, this is true - you will never lose weight if you are eating above your maintenance calories, I take zero exception with this logic -- it is not the point I am arguing

a) CICO is an over-simplification. It is not the Be-All-End-All and *only* thing that matters, as the steroid-using dwarf stated.

That's it. I make no statement beyond that at all and never said otherwise.

For a more nuanced take, I actually went into some detail in the post you replied to. A natural person, who isn't injecting massive amounts of lab born hormones can't just count calories, they also need to be aware of food choices and behind-the-curtain it's the hormonal effects these foods are having in addition to the calories.

Broccoli != ice cream != pizza != steak != a stick of butter != green leafy vegetables

Maybe a juiced out guy *can* cut on anything, which they pretty much can, because it doesn't matter for them, but they don't need to then tell me how things operate when they break the rules.

Btw, I'm being hard on this guy for abusing PEDs, I honestly don't give a fuk what people do to themselves, my problem here is how he's doing this and then pretending like his knowledge base, which works for him or anyone using, somehow that's the rules for the rest of us. Then tons of natural kids who look up to idiots like him, they follow his stupid advice, spin their wheels and get nowhere, then end up using PEDs themselves because they tried hard and failed, but only because they listened to the wrong idiot.
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post 1644323243 08-05-2021, 11:06 AM
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I think it would be much better time spent if protein requirements were pushed instead of CICO. I mean like making people aware that that and a certain amount of fat is all you essentially need despite everything else. Telling people to overall constrict sounds like a vague agenda instead of a procedural multifaceted energy balancing.

From there it's obvious. People can choose protein food more often and if they limit their carbs then it will be much harder to over eat.
post 1644324973 08-05-2021, 11:28 AM
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when did Gilbert Gottfried become so jacked and annoying?
post 1644325053 08-05-2021, 11:30 AM
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post 1644325083 08-05-2021, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted By Jasonw1178⏩
Who actually looks at BB.com's main page? I link directly to the Misc. Straight to the bottom of the barrel.

The main page looks like it was written by Wincel.
Theres a main page??
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post 1644332313 08-05-2021, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Beararms⏩
Voice may be annoying but his content is legit.
Yeah. He's hard to watch, well listen to but his points are solid. Don't watch enough of his videos to know why he uses that annoying ass voice over his real one.
post 1644335053 08-05-2021, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
you did not find gilbert gottfried annoying before?
i enjoyed him in SMALL doses...his comedy is decent.
post 1644335943 08-05-2021, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Never heard of this clown but I turned it off after hearing him screeching like a fairy in the intro
He is like low top 1000 bodybuilders but probably top 5% for income

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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
He's addressed this multiple times. That's not what happened.



He calls out fitness people who feed the unaware bullchit and baseless bro science. I'm glad he called out Andre Rush for lying about his daily routine. He's a necessary evil imo.
This. None of you guys can come up with anything solid against him.
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post 1644338383 08-05-2021, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By TheCore84⏩
This. None of you guys can come up with anything solid against him.
Someone else already came to his defense on this, although they had to completely misrepresent *his own words* to do it, but go up and read what I thought of the 10 seconds I suffered through of his video.

In 10 seconds, he completely and in a very gay effeminate screeching manner, showed me he was totally wrong.

Recap:
<Video starts>
<Normal blonde woman, looks educated and smart and speaks as such>
Woman: Anyone who tells you 'Calories in, calories out' is all you need to know is over-simplifying.
<Immediate cut. Camera now shows a dwarf who is clearly abusing PEDs>
<Shrill little dwarf has an exaggerated and fake look of shock on his face>
Dwarf, screaming in a high-pitched frantic manner: IT'S ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW!!!! CALORIES IN!! CALORIES OUT!!!! OF COURSE!!!!! IT'S ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW!!

... and I cut right there.

The only argument anyone has made to explain why he would say something so obviously wrong -- that "he didn't actually mean it, of course he knows food choices matter" or something along those lines, basically saying the woman was right and this entire dramatic intro was pointless.

Defend that.

I see, looking at some of the responses here, he's constantly Tai Lopez'ing pictures of all his expensive toys. Somehow, in their minds, I guess this means he's good and not a scam artist charlatan who should be mocked and scorned? Even if he owns all these cars, and forgetting how immature and insecure it is to front like that, his net worth only tells me he's good at ripping people off.

Defend that too if you want, don't really care though.
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post 1644339363 08-05-2021, 02:54 PM
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Somebody should make a bodybuilding cookbook as good as his and only charge $10 instead of the crazy amount this guy wants
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post 1644339503 08-05-2021, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By QuickShotSteve⏩
OP : Not watching 13 minutes of that ph@ggots voice. When time does he talk BB?

Absolutely hate this guys voice, he should rope.
It's a fake voice. He needs to use his real voice instead of that fake Gilbert Gottfried one. Surprised he hasn't blown a vocal chord.
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Originally Posted By TheFitLord⏩
Somebody should make a bodybuilding cookbook as good as his and only charge $10 instead of the crazy amount this guy wants
Why does anyone need to buy a cookbook when they can google an egg white french toast recipe?
post 1644339923 08-05-2021, 03:02 PM
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why did this guy go from a subdued powerlifter to an obnoxious "influencer" at his age?
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Originally Posted By Voidgaze⏩
He's addressed this multiple times. That's not what happened.



He calls out fitness people who feed the unaware bullchit and baseless bro science. I'm glad he called out Andre Rush for lying about his daily routine. He's a necessary evil imo.
He's a retroactive/half natty himself or whatever the terminology is these days
post 1644342053 08-05-2021, 03:31 PM
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Dude, Jeff Cavalier ****s all over this guy.
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post 1644342553 08-05-2021, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I like Athlean-X but didn't he get busted for using fake weights?
Who cares? He’s making fitness content, not competing in the CrossFit games.
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post 1644342893 08-05-2021, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Who cares? He’s making fitness content, not competing in the CrossFit games.
I think no one would care if he said they were fake to show technique because it takes X amount of hours to film the videos
I have not looked into it beyond when he was called out but at that time he would not admit it
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Originally Posted By multiplemiggs⏩
Some notes here:

1) The blonde woman is perfectly *normal* looking. Not hot, not a dime, but what a normal woman who is probably in her late 30s, 40s or something appears like. I don't grasp the vomiting meme from a non-Avi over her looks, it's not like she's a whale or hideous. Your Avi looks like your hand for fuk's sake, I get this is the misc, but that's a step too far.

edit: I'm fuking idiot. You were saying you'd jerk to her. Now that hand Avi makes a lot more sense. Also, you weren't downgrading her looks one bit, sorry I accused you of that bro. I am the dope on this one, I went a full 180 on the meme somehow, my bad.

2) **** Athlean-X and all the youtube fitness Bros, it's all smoke and mirrors. He might actually be a good trainer and if you were down the block from him and could afford it, yeah, whatever, but don't shop around youtube to learn anything from anyone. Regardless of how good he actually is (and I believe he's trained high-level athletes) but the videos he makes are formoronsand are smoke and mirrors, which is why he uses fake weights in them.

3) Nobody wanted to take up the banner for the Douchette guy? I was hoping someone would want to argue with me. Oh well.
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post 1644390793 08-06-2021, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted By GeneralSerpant⏩
CICO is annoying because it's primary importance is to convince people that there simply is accountability. It's not that hard to convince people though, and CICO gets repeated as if it's all you need to know.

That being said, whenever I watch Greg's videos I can't help but agree with his ultimate position on what he's getting across, but it seems kind of exhaustive. Can't say he doesn't do good work though.
Yeah I thought this would be another whiny video with no substance, but behind his whiny voice and annoying attitude, what he's saying is 100% factual in this video.

Cliffs for People

- BB posts video about weightloss
- Person says calorie restriction doesn't work (aka CICO)
- Person proceeds to explain why CICO works
- He comments on every facet of what she's saying is wrong
- Whole video legit goes in one giant circle to nowhere.
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post 1644391543 08-06-2021, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By JStrez⏩
Cliffs for People

- BB posts video about weightloss
- Person says calorie restriction doesn't work (aka CICO)
- Person proceeds to explain why CICO works
- He comments on every facet of what she's saying is wrong
- Whole video legit goes in one giant circle to nowhere.
Again, I watched 10 seconds of the video - what you are stating is flatout wrong.

- Person says calorie restriction isoversimplified.
- Shrill screaming juiced out dwarf screams that CICO is ALL that matters and is the ONLY thing you need to know
- People post here and continually say the screaming dwarf later gives a nuanced answer that explains why CICO is actually oversimplified. I wouldn't know, I didn't bother.

If Dr. Dwarf actually believed that it's more nuanced than CICO - why did he start the video with the woman simply saying it's oversimplified and then cutting to himself, looking shocked and screaming in his girly way that it's the only thing that matters?

Yeah, maybe the entirety of her video was wrong. I only saw the one sentence he started his video with and screeched about.

Someone *defend* why he did this. Everyone wants to say how he actually did some great job of explaining himself - but if that's true, it completely invalidated his OPENING statement that he screamed at the top of his girly lungs.
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[QUOTE=helpmee post_id=1644335943]He is like low top 1000 bodybuilders but probably top 5% for income
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[img]https://scontent-bos3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/186264960_503306321025480_4746752185610346321_n.jp g?_nc_cat=104&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=9e2e56&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=yc4YIt6H JUIAX9KZ5bC&_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.xx&oh=0387171592a189d23fb00535735efdf0&oe=613161 3F[img][/QUOTE]Just because he isn't a Mr O doesn't mean he isn't a high tier BBer. He's 46 years old. On top of being strong as sh!t and cycling miles on end, he's still ridiculously peeled. Look at his Instagram and recent posing photos.


As far as the cars if they are his its just evidence that his youtube act payed off. Dude was just a lifting a coach prior to blowing up on youtube.

[QUOTE=TheFitLord post_id=1644339363]Somebody should make a bodybuilding cookbook as good as his and only charge $10 instead of the crazy amount this guy wants[/QUOTE]If it were really that easy to become a multi-millionaire everyone would do it.


[QUOTE=HMFIC_BROWSIN post_id=1644339923]why did this guy go from a subdued powerlifter to an obnoxious "influencer" at his age?[/QUOTE]Probably because he wanted to make a ton of money. Before he started his youtube rants I doubt if anyone outside of Canada knew who he was. Now he is known and has a massive social media following.



The shrill voice/acting obnoxious is all an act.
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Originally Posted By DivineMasculine⏩
The dude is a loser. Isn’t he basically in hiding because he ratted out all his steroid selling friends so he wouldn’t go to jail.
that is false.
And im not a fan of douchette.
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Originally Posted By helpmee⏩
He is like low top 1000 bodybuilders but probably top 5% for income

scamming naive people does pay
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This video is self-contradictory, he says chit and then says things which go against it. He's screaming and yelling the whole time, he says the same chit over and over, cuts off the video he's "debating" without letting it fully explain or make a point - all the while the true purpose of this entire horsechit is tosell overpriced cook books.

Fuk him, fuk this video, fuk anyone who watched it and liked it.

CICO works for this shrimp. It works because he injects massive amounts of PEDs into his ass bi-weekly. He *can* diet on *anything* and it will work. He can probably gain muscle and lose weight at the same time dieting on protein shakes and ice cream if he's juiced up enough.

For the rest of us --food choices matter. Nobody will lose weight without either a hacksaw or dropping calories, sure -- BUT that is not the entire picture. If I said to gain muscle ALL YOU NEED TO DO IS LIFT WEIGHTS and ignored diet and recovery, I'd be wrong. You still have to fuking work out, yes, but there is more to the equation.

With natural dieters, you need to cut calories and you need to maintain your metabolism. You need to have a handle on other hormones as well: insulin, ghrelin, cortisol, leptin, IGF1, etc... in thelong runit all fuking matters. Calories are important and completely essential BUT like with gaining muscle and needing a balance of training/diet/recovery to gain, same thing with fat loss. Particularly in the long term to lose weight and keep it off.

This shouting idiot also believes that, even though he says otherwise, as he plus his cook book no less than four or five times in the first few minutes alone of this trash commercial/video.

Again, fuk it, fuk him.
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