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post 1644410833 08-06-2021, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
read the comments here

fuk I hate people so much, I am so done with society everyone can just rot and burn now for all I care

https://imgur.com/gallery/H0liVxx

Its just fukking insane how the "moral" people are happy and making fun of someone dying of covid

like what.......
don't pay attention to it mane,

they're the same people that are like "if it saves one life" while at the same time are like "death to all that oppose our thinking"

it's a bunch of imgur/reddit/twitter/instagram edgelords, they're all the same. getting into a debate with them and letting them rustle you is a waste of time. you don't even know them in real life and they sure as hell wouldn't do or say chit.
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post 1644411133 08-06-2021, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted By thadderbox⏩
I'm seeing a ton of attempted discreditation on social media for attempting to sway people other figures and instead get the vaccine.

Anyone who's had COVID will have protection and build antibodies for years according to studies.

Also, when you mention the survival rate for COVID without pre-existing conditions, then that's somehow insensitive and "not accurate"

The word "science" is now being misconstrued and twisted to fit a narrative that only pertains itself to the vaccine and not others things.
OP is speaking the truth
post 1644411223 08-06-2021, 03:00 PM
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Trust the science.

Also there are 76,501 genders.
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post 1644411283 08-06-2021, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
don't pay attention to it mane,

they're the same people that are like "if it saves one life" while at the same time are like "death to all that oppose our thinking"

it's a bunch of imgur/reddit/twitter/instagram edgelords, they're all the same. getting into a debate with them and letting them rustle you is a waste of time. you don't even know them in real life and they sure as hell wouldn't do or say chit.
except they are winning and enacting policy and this vaccine requirement stuff is spreading rapidly. Once people have it in their head that unvaccinated people are literally killing millions of people its going to get really aggressive and really dangerous.
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post 1644411673 08-06-2021, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
But apparently there being 100+ genders is "science"
this is why I despise Democrats
post 1644411793 08-06-2021, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
except they are winning and enacting policy and this vaccine requirement stuff is spreading rapidly. Once people have it in their head that unvaccinated people are literally killing millions of people its going to get really aggressive and really dangerous.
I agree, but there's really not much you can do about it, the media has already gassed everybody up, chit is already getting censored, etc. you're not gonna convince somebody over instagram and just create one big headache for yourself. best you can really do is go to your local politicians and elected officials in your area and call on them to do more to fight stuff like vaccine requirements, masks for children in schools, etc. the least is probably not giving your money to any businesses or people that support this clown world. let these *******s get upset at you for living your life while they panic in their basements, just lol
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post 1644411823 08-06-2021, 03:09 PM
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yeah my local area had a big maskless sports event (like 15-20k people) for fully vacciniated ppl. were also about to drop guvment mandated masks. I bet when the 4th waves come around they will start blaming the unvaxxed crew
post 1644412393 08-06-2021, 03:17 PM
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How is it a vaccine when you still Get covid afterwards? As someone Else said i will trust my immune system instead of injecting myself with a substance no One knows the long term effects of
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post 1644412903 08-06-2021, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted By keyboardworkout⏩
You might need to do a bone marrow test.

https://medicine.wustl.edu/news/good...dy-protection/
There are $25 dollar antibody tests available at most pharmacies. Most prior infected will still have enough antibodies to be seropositive. A negative doesn't mean someone wasn't infected of course. A T-cell test to be more precise doesn't require bone marrow, but also costs more.
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post 1644413463 08-06-2021, 03:32 PM
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My wife's 64 year old aunt, 70 year old uncle and 3 cousins are now positive with Delta in Mexico.

They are currently quarantining at home and purposely making food as awful as possible for jokes because they can't taste anything.

Sounds terrifying.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I don't understand how anyone can believe a statistic like "99% of patients are unvaccinated".

99%. Do people not realize how statistically unreasonable that is?

My sister works in a hospital as a med student (not with COVID patients) and she even believes that. As if she personally counted..

Apparently the CDC changed the reporting requirements for COVID and now, if someone is hospitalized due to COVID but they have the vaccine, they aren't counted as a COVID patient, which supports the 99% statistic..
Also the 30 million Americans who have only one shot but not both, they're "unvaccinated" here in the US. I've only seen a 1 or 2 out of many articles differentiate by mentioning a lot of hospitalized were partially vaccinated. Feels like collusion.

More fun: a lot of hospitalized Covid patients were admitted for something unrelated, then caught Covid while in the hospital. About 25% of cases in hospital were caught while in hospital BEFORE the more transmissible Delta variant came along. Before the Delta wave started hitting the UK months ago, they determined 8700 of their Covid 125K deaths were non-Covid patients that caught it while in the hospital and died from it.
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post 1644414273 08-06-2021, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Not everyone put on weight, but a large survey from earlier this year said 42% of Americans admitted putting on weight during the pandemic. Average weight gain among them.....29 pounds. Let that sink in. While trying to avoid a virus that especially goes after obese people. No doubt a bunch of people went from "could lose a few pounds" to "wtf." Restrictions and shunned social activity in many places creating more victims.
I don’t understand that mentality. I thought the lockdowns were asinine, but I saw it as an opportunity since I’d be working from home and that would make it easier to lift and get the needed nutrition. I put on muscle, cut fat, and went up on my lifts. Also invested in building out a home gym.

I just don’t understand how some people have a lay down and rot mentality.
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I’m not sure anyone is denying natural immunity. But even those who were infected previously can benefit by getting vaccinated.
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post 1644414783 08-06-2021, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
I don't understand how anyone can believe a statistic like "99% of patients are unvaccinated".

99%. Do people not realize how statistically unreasonable that is?

My sister works in a hospital as a med student (not with COVID patients) and she even believes that. As if she personally counted..

Apparently the CDC changed the reporting requirements for COVID and now, if someone is hospitalized due to COVID but they have the vaccine, they aren't counted as a COVID patient, which supports the 99% statistic..
did the CDC actually do that? not counting vaccinated in hospitals as hospitalized?
Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Also the 30 million Americans who have only one shot but not both, they're "unvaccinated" here in the US. I've only seen a 1 or 2 out of many articles differentiate by mentioning a lot of hospitalized were partially vaccinated. Feels like collusion.

More fun: a lot of hospitalized Covid patients were admitted for something unrelated, then caught Covid while in the hospital. About 25% of cases in hospital were caught while in hospital BEFORE the more transmissible Delta variant came along. Before the Delta wave started hitting the UK months ago, they determined 8700 of their Covid 125K deaths were non-Covid patients that caught it while in the hospital and died from it.
you got a link to anything about people catching covid in hospitals?
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post 1644415003 08-06-2021, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
That's messed up that people are catching it while in the hospital.



Why would someone who has natural immunity, mess with that by getting the vaccine which would introduce the possibility of adverse reactions?
Because those with natural immunity, particularly those that were infected with a different variant, are still susceptible to reinfection. Vaccines can these people build a more robust humoral immune response and reduce the odds of reinfection. That said, I think it’s helpful but not nearly as important as vaccinating people who haven’t been infected.
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Originally Posted By sooby⏩
did the CDC actually do that? not counting vaccinated in hospitals as hospitalized?
No, on May 21, 2021 CDC announced they will only be tracking if fully vaxxed people are hospitalized...they do not count vaxxed people with positive tests who go home to isolate.

Gives very skewed numbers of the effectiveness of the vaccines when you don't count ALL positive tests.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-1...ugh-cases.html
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
Because those with natural immunity, particularly those that were infected with a different variant, are still susceptible to reinfection. Vaccines can these people build a more robust humoral immune response and reduce the odds of reinfection. That said, I think it’s helpful but not nearly as important as vaccinating people who haven’t been infected.
i know a guy that got hospitalized due to covid
Recovered, took both phizer jabs, 2nd one made him sick as a dog, almost went to the hospital again

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Yep "science" just means what are the pharmaceutical corporations paying to have shown in studies. "Health" no longer involves diet and exercise as a key component, nevermind that the vast majority of people die from heart disease and cancer, it has instead become redefined by what drugs you take preemptively of any illness.
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