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Because groups of voters elected a dictator to enforce COVID mandates and hysteria to the other half.
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- pharma making chitloads of money
- government printing money to pay pharma for 'COVID relief'
- politicians and celebrities most definitely getting kickbacks
- politicians getting power, basically close to a level of dictatorship not seen before in democratic countries
- media making chitloads of money, COVID is the hottest topic that can be flogged to death for attention
- vaccines keep the virus spicy, that's why they keep fabricating new strains, new data and new vaccines to keep you subscribed
- world's billionaires increasing their wealth by trillions during 2020, particularly anything web based or ecommerce (think Amazon, ********)

COVID is the greatest marketing scam in human history and dumb kunts are still falling for it almost 2 years in.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
I'll get the vaccine to protect other people when they drop the obesity rates in this country collectively below 20%

Research has shown obese individuals are less productive members of society and put a heavier burden/strain on healthcare. It's equally as selfish these people refuse to control their weight through simple behavioral actions. To say I'm not affected by the morbidly obese infesting this country would be terribly naive. It actually doesn't just affect them believe it or not.

It's a fair trade. Each of these things is a choice. I'd actually be more than happy to make this trade too. Unfortunately the rest of the country used the pandemic to get even more obese, as difficult as that may be to even comprehend considering the rates are already astronomically high. So let me know when the other side wants to hold up their end of caring about other members of this country by not being lazy fat f*cks and I'm more than happy to reciprocate by getting vaccinated.
this is very well said. it feels like you're already doing your part for the healthcare system and well-being of society by staying healthy and taking care of yourself. then you have millions of obese people who choose to get vaccinated, but still cause more damage to society and healthcare than your unvaccinated ass ever could. the sad part? you are made out to be the bad guy and a detriment to society while these people get away with everything

i'd be happy to do something for the greater good if it meant that other "burden to society people" had to pull their weight too... them taking the vaccine and keeping on being a burden won't cut it
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Originally Posted By jfloycp
Oh, all the pandemic rule-by-decree has given degenerate types a real taste for authoritarianism
It's this more than Big Pharma profits. The ruling elites of the globohomo left don't like their commands being ignored.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
And the hospital systems are being overwhelmed. Ambulances are sometimes waiting hours in Houston to drop off patients. ICUs are filling up. Hospitals are running out of nurses. It's going to get worse before it gets better, and once Texas and Florida are finished with their waves, it is going to start in other parts of the country just like last year. And the easiest way to avoid all this mayhem and pulmonary carnage is for people to take the vaccines.
Did Houston have a much lower number of cases/vaccinations than Dallas? Seems unlikely that they were a whole lot different.



So we had herd immunity, but now not only do we have increased transmission, the hospitals are being overwhelmed?
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
Bro... bro... I just texted this to my little sister who has a PhD in microbiology and does lab research in her city's medical center.



Like with a lot of these COVID CTs spread on the face books, it started with some basic misreadings of a CDC announcement. It is easily explained here:

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/sc...d-19-pcr-test/


And the hospital systems are being overwhelmed. Ambulances are sometimes waiting hours in Houston to drop off patients. ICUs are filling up. Hospitals are running out of nurses. It's going to get worse before it gets better, and once Texas and Florida are finished with their waves, it is going to start in other parts of the country just like last year. And the easiest way to avoid all this mayhem and pulmonary carnage is for people to take the vaccines.
LOL @ leftists using snopes.com, factcheck.org, or politifact.com as legitimate fact-checking sites.

They're about as credible as sources as Baghdad Bob.



Just LOL.
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Originally Posted By Anachron
The goalposts are going to keep moving. It really is curious as to why people are blindly defending it...
Too much fluoride in the pineal gland, and mainstream propaganda similar to 1930s Germany has these people brainwashed.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Did Houston have a much lower number of cases/vaccinations than Dallas? Seems unlikely that they were a whole lot different.



So we had herd immunity, but now not only do we have increased transmission, the hospitals are being overwhelmed?
No one took that group's estimation seriously, except maybe Greg Abbott. It has been over a month, for instance, and they still haven't even corrected one part of their statement where they refer to "heard immunity"
https://pccinnovation.org/pcci-ceo-s...o-be-done/amp/

Between the sizable population still susceptible to covid and the high R rating of the Delta variant, we are indeed getting walloped by COVID. A couple standalone emergency rooms just closed so they could redirect their staff to larger hospitals:https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2021/08/06/...l-covid-surge/. They hope to reopen after the surge.
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
hmm I dunno, some bullchit source like the CDC?

https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2...Testing_1.html
You are misreading their statement. Let the guy who just finished his doctoral dissertation on the evolution of viruses or somesuch explain it:
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You’re misunderstanding. The CDC did not say that PCR testing is unable to detect SARSCOV2 or unable to differentiate it with influenza. The CDC withdrew their request to the FDA for EAU of a PCR assay because higher-throughput and multiplexed assays were developed. They had a long list of recommended substitutes when they announced this withdraw. The multiplex assays can simultaneously detect and differentiate SARS-CoV-2, influenza A and influenza B within one test ( important for obvious reasons). Previous PCR tests for SARSCOV2 were not amplifying influenza genes and giving false positives. That would require entirely different primers.
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All the CaSeS with a PCR test that can't tell the flu from the 'rona:

https://truthinplainsight.com/pcr-te...-been-revoked/
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
You mean the guy who couldn't answer my statement below from another thread?
Oh for God's sake the guy just explained in simple English how you were wrong about the CDC's statement concerning PCR Covid & Flu tests.
Anyways - how do you explain influenza cases plummeting since COVID hit?
We masked up and socially distanced for a year. It isn't rocket science.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Did Houston have a much lower number of cases/vaccinations than Dallas? Seems unlikely that they were a whole lot different.



So we had herd immunity, but now not only do we have increased transmission, the hospitals are being overwhelmed?
No one has reached herd immunity, especially not a single County surrounded by other locations.

This is like saying the fire is totally contained here, but all around us the fire rages.


Did you actually read the article? It’s bullchit

“As a county, we’re still behind on vaccinations: Only 38 percent of the total population with completed vaccination series and 47 percent of the total population with at least one dose (61 percent of adults and 80 percent of those over the age of 65 years). While previous infections and partial vaccinations do provide a level of protection, all evidence suggests that full vaccinations are the most effective way to stay safe against the delta variant.”

So the 46.6 vaccinated number is a lie - that's single dose for the county. 38% of the total population is fully vaccinated.


Can you guys just stop. Dealing with you idiots is so tiring.
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Originally Posted By MegaSloot
Each time it is spread it has another chance to mutate. take a grade school biology class. When old people get covid, they die. Death is regarded by normal folks as something of a set back. for you, I'm sure you have no problem killing off "dead weight" hence your lack of giving a damn if some geezer dies because you couldn't be inconvenienced. It's cheaper that way any way, yeah? quit being such a clown.
Then why no push to curb obesity

Just lol if you think the vaccines are about altruism
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Originally Posted By moosik85
Then why no push to curb obesity
There should be, but two stupids don’t cancel each other out. Your stupid isn’t any less stupid because other stupid people are stupid about obesity
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I thought masks don't work to prevent airborne viruses though?

If masks and social distancing worked, why did we have so many COVID cases then? Same method of transmission as influenza, right?

Also, is this fake news then?

https://truthinplainsight.com/pcr-te...-been-revoked/
Almost as if they’re different viruses and therefore will have different results even if other variables are the same.

Mind blown

I’m not trying to do ad hominems but god damn you people are stupid as fuk.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
I thought masks don't work to prevent airborne viruses though?

If masks and social distancing worked, why did we have so many COVID cases then? Same method of transmission as influenza, right?

Also, is this fake news then?

https://truthinplainsight.com/pcr-te...-been-revoked/
“If Lebron only scored 20 points against the knicks how come Kobe scored 50 against the knicks” is the equivalent of what you’re asking
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You seriously don't know? Wealth transfer, power grab - and "building back better."

The WEF wants to transform the world into a China like state - with social credit scores..etc. Control. The WEF is the deep state across the globe. They have said as much years ago and have documented videos, which for some reason are still on youtube, of them talking about bringing America in line with them and transform the planet into a one world government akin to China's model.

They freakin' planned this with event 201, which is on youtube, prior to the virus release. The pushing of the vaccine is just another part of the control and oppression of the populace. A total power grab - do as I say, take this poison, and then get my big brother implant chip, or else you can't travel, work, buy food, sell things, live... - It's definitely going to reset society like they want, but the reset is going to send us back to the stone age.
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Originally Posted By navid93
No one has reached herd immunity, especially not a single County surrounded by other locations.

This is like saying the fire is totally contained here, but all around us the fire rages.


Did you actually read the article? It’s bullchit

“As a county, we’re still behind on vaccinations: Only 38 percent of the total population with completed vaccination series and 47 percent of the total population with at least one dose (61 percent of adults and 80 percent of those over the age of 65 years). While previous infections and partial vaccinations do provide a level of protection, all evidence suggests that full vaccinations are the most effective way to stay safe against the delta variant.”

So the 46.6 vaccinated number is a lie - that's single dose for the county. 38% of the total population is fully vaccinated.


Can you guys just stop. Dealing with you idiots is so tiring.
Saw it on the local news one morning. There wasn't anything to read. At the time I thought that the announcement originated with UT Southwestern Medical Center.

So you're saying that the county health department was lying? Maybe so, though I don't know what motive they could have as the constant messaging to "get vaccinated" didn't ever really let up.

Can you see why a lot of people might just decide that they can't trust any source of information?

ETA:



Guess I'm not senile quite yet. UT Southwestern is very highly regarded too.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Saw it on the local news one morning. There wasn't anything to read. At the time I thought that the announcement originated with UT Southwestern Medical Center.

So you're saying that the county health department was lying? Maybe so, though I don't know what motive they could have as the constant messaging to "get vaccinated" didn't ever really let up.

Can you see why a lot of people might just decide that they can't trust any source of information?
You could’ve googled the article name and read it, not hard.

It wasn’t said by the county health department, it was said by Parkland Center for Clinical Innovation, a non profit organization. You’d know if you read the article.
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Originally Posted By navid93
You could’ve googled the article name and read it, not hard.

It wasn’t said by the county health department, it was said by Parkland Center for Clinical Innovation, a non profit organization. You’d know if you read the article.
I suppose. But I usually don't want to work that hard while I'm drinking my morning coffee in my pjs. Somehow I doubt that many of the thousands of other people watching the local news did so either.

We had been at around 6 or 7 cases per 100K for quite awhile.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...vid-cases.html
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
oh, ok. so masks don't prevent transmission against COVID, but they do against influenza?

when you have to resort to insults, you've completely lost the argument.

"HURR DURR I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU ARE THAT STOOPID"



can you translate that into science for me?
That’s not what I said Jesus dude.

Yes masks reduce spread of covid and the flu. But even after being reduced the numbers will be different because they’re different viruses. They don’t have the same contagiousness.

It’s not that hard to comprehend.
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Originally Posted By navid93
There should be, but two stupids don’t cancel each other out. Your stupid isn’t any less stupid because other stupid people are stupid about obesity
Ok then a more apples for apples comparison

Why no concerted effort to eliminate the yearly flu?

I’d love to believe big pharma and big gov have our best interests at heart, history teaches us different.
Almost all genocides are carried out by governments against their own people and big pharma has centuries of bad practice.

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Originally Posted By moosik85
Ok then a more apples for apples comparison

Why no concerted effort to eliminate the yearly flu?

I’d love to believe big pharma and big gov have our best interests at heart, history teaches us different.
Almost all genocides are carried out by governments against their own people and big pharma has centuries of bad practice.

https://lulz.com/surviving-a-year-of...m-thread-6265/
For those that think genocide isn’t possible in modern western countries
Yearly flu kills about 45k Americans a year (obviously each year will be different)

Covid killed 500k last year and that was WITH people masking and distancing. Without it the number would be even higher.

You’re right it is apples and oranges, they’re not comparable things so people cared more about one
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace
fukking LOL. imagine if the entire country followed route based on the link below.

https://sanjosespotlight.com/santa-c...hs-by-over-20/

Now watch this:



Now consider that other illnesses such as cancer and heart attacks have plummeted since COVID started.

And you believe 500,000 people died of COVID?
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is this a laugh for or against my post?
pretty sure it's for, also any time that video is posted the libcucks run away and never have a response for it lol
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1
I'll get the vaccine to protect other people when they drop the obesity rates in this country collectively below 20%

Research has shown obese individuals are less productive members of society and put a heavier burden/strain on healthcare. It's equally as selfish these people refuse to control their weight through simple behavioral actions. To say I'm not affected by the morbidly obese infesting this country would be terribly naive. It actually doesn't just affect them believe it or not.

It's a fair trade. Each of these things is a choice. I'd actually be more than happy to make this trade too. Unfortunately the rest of the country used the pandemic to get even more obese, as difficult as that may be to even comprehend considering the rates are already astronomically high. So let me know when the other side wants to hold up their end of caring about other members of this country by not being lazy fat f*cks and I'm more than happy to reciprocate by getting vaccinated.
And if a country such as the UK where we have a national health system and our tax money pays for their chitty lifestyle, this is even more appropriate.

But expecting emotionally-driven people to think critically about these things…
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Originally Posted By navid93
Yearly flu kills about 45k Americans a year (obviously each year will be different)

Covid killed 500k last year and that was WITH people masking and distancing. Without it the number would be even higher.

You’re right it is apples and oranges, they’re not comparable things so people cared more about one
Worldwide? Sure
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Originally Posted By StoliFun
Who told you this?



The flu and cold are not causing these hospitalizations. When have you ever heard of a state's hospital systems being brought to their knees by a cold bug? Why would the flu and cold target almost exclusively people who are not vaccinated against COVID?



Is this a serious post?
Every winter the UK hospitals are on black alert, usually from resp illnesses.
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Lockdown/mask pushers have moved-on to compulsory vax compliance

Just degenerates with a sick taste for authoritarianism

Destroyers of liberty will find themselves on the short-end someday, tyranny is always capricious
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