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post 1644576973 08-09-2021, 10:49 AM
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Iceland has almost 100% vaccinated but is having its largest spike in covid

lmao, vaxcels on sudoku watch












Iceland's dr fauci equivalent has said that vaccine herd immunity is impossibleand that swedish dude was right - we should have never locked down and vaccines are making it worse and it'll never go away with the vaccines.

COVID-19 in Iceland: Vaccination Has Not Led to Herd Immunity, Says Chief Epidemiologist
“Can you give us information about how many people were vaccinated among those who have been hospitalised in this wave?”Þórólfur says around half of those hospitalised have been vaccinated.
https://www.icelandreview.com/societ...pidemiologist/



cliffs:

-Iceland has almost 100% vaccinated population
-but has huge spike in covid cases
-iceland's dr ffauci equivalent says lockdown was a mistake and vaccines are chit tier and dont work
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So what you’re saying OP is that half the new covid cases are coming from like the less than 1% that aren’t vaccinated?

Cause that doesn’t stand for what you’re trying to make it stand for. That’s the vaccine obviously working.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
So what you’re saying OP is that half the new covid cases are coming from like the less than 1% that aren’t vaccinated?

Cause that doesn’t stand for what you’re trying to make it stand for. That’s the vaccine obviously working.
half thehospitalizations****uette. they're having their biggest spike in cases despite the high levels of vaccinations

reading comprehension on point
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
Not that I agree with lockdowns but where does it say it was a mistake? Nor does he mention Sweden. He also doesn't say vaccinations are useless, he say it doesn't prevent infection and spread but seems to reduce serious illness.

Not sure your cliffs are accurate bro
Also looking at infections MAXXXXING at 150/day (not even misk approved number)
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post 1644578113 08-09-2021, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Jimmehhh⏩
half thehospitalizations****uette. they're having their biggest spike in cases despite the high levels of vaccinations

reading comprehension on point
Just lol at trying to be a hard ass about my reading comprehension here.

By your own post almost everyone is vaccinated in Iceland, yet half the hospitalizations (woooo grad we got that cleared up cause it changed so much …) are coming from the tiny % that isn’t.

And you think this is proof the vaccine doesn’t work?
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lmao at Iceland's dr fauci equivalent
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Originally Posted By charity4thepoor⏩
Also looking at infections MAXXXXING at 150/day (not even misk approved number)
Also looking at that graph, it only goes back to the beginning of 2021

This is the full graph of Iceland's reported new cases

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45% of UK covid deaths are from the fully vax’ed
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
45% of UK covid deaths are from the fully vax’ed
Dying just means the vaccine is working
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“ Health authorities have sent a formal memorandum to the government expressing concern about the heavy strain on the healthcare system cause by the current record rate of infection.”



“Yesterday’s numbers have been updated on covid.is. Iceland reported 108 domestic cases (38 in quarantine) and 1 at the border. Total active cases are at a record 1,304.16 are in hospital.”





What kind of poverty ass healthcare system do you have when 16 covid hospitalizations cause a heavy strain?
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Be Iceland.
Have 1 death for all of 2021
Have a total of 8900 cases. For the entire pandemic.
Have 30 total deaths. For the entire pandemic.
Have 87 deaths per million (vs Sweden at 1400 per mil)

But we shoulda went the swede route. Lol.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
what I would be interested to see is the the death per 100,00 among vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals. Depending on what percentage of the country is vaccinated, it could skew the percentages.
There's a total of 30 deaths, not much info can be extracted from that.
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
Just lol at trying to be a hard ass about my reading comprehension here.

By your own post almost everyone is vaccinated in Iceland, yet half the hospitalizations (woooo grad we got that cleared up cause it changed so much …) are coming from the tiny % that isn’t.

And you think this is proof the vaccine doesn’t work?
Seems like this is a good indication they help with hospitalizations -- but they do not seem to work at all with infections/transmission as the cases overall are spiking.

IMO, if we knew the vaccines were safe - I see no real problem with them, provided people who get infected who are vaccinated then gain immunity. At some point, we'll hit herd immunity and if less people suffer to get there, better.

The potential problems as I see it: vaccinations are not forcing mutations in anyway and if vaccinated people can gain natural immunity after infection. If they aren't causing mutations and people gain immunity, if they're safe, people should get it.

Until we know if they are safe, in the meantime, I would only get vaccinated if I were vulnerable or around those who were, if I did not have natural immunity.

I personally have natural immunity, don't need vaccination.
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
45% of UK covid deaths are from the fully vax’ed
This is strong af evidence of the vaccine's effectiveness brah. In the UK, something like 93%+ of the highest risk age group is fully vaccinated and yet they make up only 45% of deaths

In really rough terms that means you have ~7% of the unvaccinated at-risk population constituting the other 55% of COVID deaths, an absolutely massive disparity
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
45% of UK covid deaths are from the fully vax’ed
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
Dying just means the vaccine is working
They would have died twice without the vaccine.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
Seems like this is a good indication they help with hospitalizations -- but they do not seem to work at all with infections/transmission as the cases overall are spiking.

IMO, if we knew the vaccines were safe - I see no real problem with them, provided people who get infected who are vaccinated then gain immunity. At some point, we'll hit herd immunity and if less people suffer to get there, better.

The potential problems as I see it: vaccinations are not forcing mutations in anyway and if vaccinated people can gain natural immunity after infection. If they aren't causing mutations and people gain immunity, if they're safe, people should get it.

Until we know if they are safe, in the meantime, I would only get vaccinated if I were vulnerable or around those who were, if I did not have natural immunity.

I personally have natural immunity, don't need vaccination.
I think we have to look at the infections critically. When I got vaccinated I started engaging in a lot of behavior I wouldn’t have otherwise (indoor wedding, eating out, baseball games - that sort of thing) I’m pretty much just living my life and my wife and I took covid pretty seriously because her mom is pretty frail and we have to take her places and such.

Even if the vaccine works 95% of the time I’m still far more likely to get covid now than when I was unvaccinated. I’m fairly cavalier about it really, because I assume if I do get anything it will be very mild.
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
what I would be interested to see is the the death per 100,00 among vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals. Depending on what percentage of the country is vaccinated, it could skew the percentages.
123k infected
257 deaths
92 unvaxxed
45 1 jab
118 2 jab

70% of the population 2 jab
90% 1 or 2 jab
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
123k infected
257 deaths
92 unvaxxed
45 1 jab
118 2 jab

70% of the population 2 jab
90% 1 or 2 jab
Where you getting numbers from? Looks like worldometer chit the bed on Iceland numbers, might have to change sources.

Anyway, I'm against forcing the vax, but it seems clear to me that age and comorbitities play a role no matter the vax state. Young and healthy survive this chit if they're not vaxxed. Old, frail, unhealthy MIGHT survive this chit if they have a vax. Might not as well. Better chance with the vax tho.

There are additional layers as well tho. What about the fact that the pandemic was taking lives out before there was even a vax? It's not such an easy thing to compare numbers when different time periods had different circumstances. Honestly I'm surprised the vaxxed deaths is that high.
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Originally Posted By Johnez⏩
Where you getting numbers from? Looks like worldometer chit the bed on Iceland numbers, might have to change sources.

Anyway, I'm against forcing the vax, but it seems clear to me that age and comorbitities play a role no matter the vax state. Young and healthy survive this chit if they're not vaxxed. Old, frail, unhealthy MIGHT survive this chit if they have a vax. Might not as well. Better chance with the vax tho.

There are additional layers as well tho. What about the fact that the pandemic was taking lives out before there was even a vax? It's not such an easy thing to compare numbers when different time periods had different circumstances. Honestly I'm surprised the vaxxed deaths is that high.
those were uk #s

https://assets.publishing.service.go...riefing_18.pdf

Weird how the cdc data isn’t close to the uk data, in regards to the vaccine

Israel has 7 vaxed deaths for every 3 unvaxxed but 90% of their population is vax’ed

So if 3 is the baseline, the vax’ed would see 27 deaths (3X9) but they are only seeing about 25% of that, showing the vaccine is working
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
those were uk #s

https://assets.publishing.service.go...riefing_18.pdf
Aw, thanks for clearing that up lol.
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Vaccines seem to do well with preventing severe death and hospitalizations but not with at least testing positive for the virus/getting it, which to be fair, is what the vaccine makers suggested initially.

IMO the old, fat, and sick should be getting vaccines and boosters regularly and the rest of us should just go on with our lives. This constant focus on the virus and especially cases now is clown world ****. Covid is here to stay, cases dont mean ****. prevent deaths in the susceptible and leave the rest of the population alone.
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