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post 1644887783 08-13-2021, 03:13 PM
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do you think most good songs were written sober or under the influence?

and what do you think is the most popular drug to songwrite?
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Most good songs were written sober
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Most good songs are written on drugs

probably heroin
post 1644888303 08-13-2021, 03:21 PM
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Most good songs were written by stone cold sober Swedish ghost writers who just have a knack for manipulating human psychology in music form
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eminems first few (and successful) albums were all done on drugs. once he became sober he started going to ****
post 1644888613 08-13-2021, 03:26 PM
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As a songwriter, I'd say that some of the best lyrics or ideas for songs come from being high or drunk. When I'm actually writing the song, however, I'm sober. Alcohol, weed, opiates, even psychedelics...they can all help ideas come to you. Uppers, however, typically don't help with chit.
post 1644889333 08-13-2021, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost⏩
Most good songs were written by stone cold sober Swedish ghost writers who just have a knack for manipulating human psychology in music form
lol really?
post 1644890433 08-13-2021, 03:56 PM
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I think most write them sober, but think of the song when high/drunk.
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Drugs def play a vital role.. cause we all seen big name artists who go sober, go to complete ****
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Originally Posted By BenjiDaldes⏩
lol really?


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post 1644892873 08-13-2021, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
this is true. look at the Chili Peppers - once they got sober, they became mainstream and started creating pop rock.
what drugs did the red hot chillis take, srs?
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definitely not sober. Songs about heroin seem to be the best.
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post 1644894383 08-13-2021, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
they did all sorts of chit. i think they are most famous for heroin. their original guitarist Hillel Slovak died from a heroine overdose. John Frusciante had a bad addiction to heroin, also Anthony did heroin.
post 1644894593 08-13-2021, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted By BrosefMengele⏩
Most good songs are written on drugs

probably heroin
This.

Most of the good rock bands were heavy H users. I can guarantee you they wrote when they were high.

Kiss is a band that never did drugs, and they suck imo
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**** no. Even country artists get drunk as ****.
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a song literally about heroin
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Originally Posted By BenjiDaldes⏩
lol really?
As far as pop songs go, yep. Even with most popular bands of other genres of rock or rap they have Rick Ross who pretty much turns their retarded writings into something people will like. Producers are a thing and even producers have producers.
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post 1644918623 08-14-2021, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted By Archangel_Lost⏩
As far as pop songs go, yep. Even with most popular bands of other genres of rock or rap they have Rick Ross who pretty much turns their retarded writings into something people will like. Producers are a thing and even producers have producers.
crazy **** brah

it makes what 'real' bands like pink floyd, led zep, queen etc do even more impressive
post 1644919733 08-14-2021, 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted By Strawng⏩
As a songwriter, I'd say that some of the best lyrics or ideas for songs come from being high or drunk. When I'm actually writing the song, however, I'm sober. Alcohol, weed, opiates, even psychedelics...they can all help ideas come to you. Uppers, however, typically don't help with chit.
My take?

I do agree thatsometimesbeing a bit high (pick your poison)canremove a creative barrier and allow one to think/write outside the box andmaybecome up with a clever line or two but that's about it.
But, depending on how high one gets, much of the time it can turn out to be just incoherent mental masturbation and is not the masterpiece we think it may be.
Admittedly, I've done a lot of writing with a Sam Adams or Crown Royal to help loosen up my lyrical thought process.

As mentioned earlier, a good song (lyrically speaking) is pure subjectivity.
What's good writing to one person can be perceived as vapid drivel to another.
Being an old bird I'm VERY particular about what I like and current music doesn't work for me.....I do have generational preference.

I'm 74 and have been a rhythm guitarist/song writer since the mid 70's.
My sig link is my writing style and I know I'll never have any mass appeal.
But, I don't give a shvt because song writing is mycreative therapy....not something I do to meet external expectations.
It's just what I do.

To each their own song writing process.

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Bill Hicks did a funny bit on it.


Of course they were mostly under the influence. As a musician myself weed helps get the creative juices flowing when there’s an instrument in your hand.
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Originally Posted By Donny2Yucky⏩
i wouldn't be surprised. when i get drunk, music becomes immensely more enjoyable to listen to.

i can imagine if you're a musician noodling around trying to create a song, getting drunk or high would put you in a unique headspace to bring out songs.
This is point on. Think about how it hits you when just listening. Now imagining the other side of it it’s even multiplied. Whoever the miscer that said most good songs were written sober is waaaaay off. Unless their ‘good songs’ are Kpop or something similar.


Bill hicks had a comedy bit that said

“You see, I think drugs have done some good things for us. I really do. And if you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, do me a favor. Go home tonight. Take all your albums, all your tapes and all your CDs and burn them. 'Cause you know what, the musicians that made all that great music that's enhanced your lives throughout the years were rrreal ****ing high on drugs. The Beatles were so ****ing high they let Ringo sing a few tunes.”
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Originally Posted By nielk⏩


a song literally about heroin
True but I think Anthony was sober by this time (though he relapsed quickly after).
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