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post 1645119753 08-17-2021, 07:19 AM
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The Taliban/AFG situation is not the Wests problem

So why are the west so invested?

Every news outlet has this news plastered all over.

Suddenly women's rights in Afghanistan are of major concern for these God-sent humanitarians.

Stay the phuck out of the middle-east/Asia and concentrate on yourselves where feminism, LGBTQ and other isms are decaying your societies.

The Taliban had 0 to do with 9/11; the man who was is now dead. Heck most Afghans are okay with the Taliban taking over hence 0 resistence.

The people of the West really need to learn to think for themselves and take back their power by refusing to bend to their media outlets/elites.
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post 1645119953 08-17-2021, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted By AKMuzzle⏩
Heck most Afghans are okay with the Taliban taking over hence 0 resistence.
Pretty sure they have no choice in the matter but okay brah

Comply or get beheaded

or

Comply and get beheaded anyway
post 1645120123 08-17-2021, 07:24 AM
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makes a refreshing change than dying from covid

"everybody you might die from Taliban, so take this Taliban vaxx"

Taliban variant is upon us
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Pretty sure they have no choice in the matter but okay brah

Comply or get beheaded

or

Comply and get beheaded anyway
Imagine if tens of thousands of taliban were on US soil and the US was in legitimate danger of falling.

The people enlisting in the military would double and we would have the biggest draft the world has ever seen. The Afghans did give a fuc
post 1645120283 08-17-2021, 07:26 AM
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Agree, it's a hopeless situation and land anyway.
post 1645120303 08-17-2021, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Pretty sure they have no choice in the matter but okay brah

Comply or get beheaded

or

Comply and get beheaded anyway
Lol I guess you arent aware of the demographics in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is made up of many tribes many who are extremely vicious. People in Afghanistan especially the villagers/tribes DGAF about being beheaded for their cause/tribe. The only time a people in Afghanistan wouldnt fight back is if they WILLINGLY accept the rule
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post 1645120393 08-17-2021, 07:27 AM
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If you had any knowledge of history you would realise it is our problem. The west has been funding and supporting the extreme elements in the country since the ****ing 70s.

This is a situation where it is our fault.
post 1645120453 08-17-2021, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
If you had any knowledge of history you would realise it is our problem. The west has been funding and supporting the extreme elements in the country since the ****ing 70s.

This is a situation where it is our fault.
Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)

If we go even further it's your fault actually.
post 1645120583 08-17-2021, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
If you had any knowledge of history you would realise it is our problem. The west has been funding and supporting the extreme elements in the country since the ****ing 70s.

This is a situation where it is our fault.
Its the Wests fault for the vacuum and chaos in that country however it doesn't give it the right to prod and sit on their high horse and dictate how they should be ruled. STFU and sit down and worry about yourselves for once.
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post 1645120773 08-17-2021, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
If you had any knowledge of history you would realise it is our problem. The west has been funding and supporting the extreme elements in the country since the ****ing 70s.

This is a situation where it is our fault.
oi bruh i didn't send any money over srs
post 1645121033 08-17-2021, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)

If we go even further it's your fault actually.
I agree. Same with Iran and loads of other lands. The mistakes of the British empire has permanently ****ed things up. But the Americans are making things worse.
Originally Posted By AKMuzzle⏩
Its the Wests fault for the vacuum and chaos in that country however it doesn't give it the right to prod and sit on their high horse and dictate how they should be ruled. STFU and sit down and worry about yourselves for once.
We have the right to protect those who want to escape especially the women who have finally had a taste of freedom. We also cant let the area turn into a hotspot of terror training camps
post 1645121433 08-17-2021, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
We have the right to protect those who want to escape especially the women who have finally had a taste of freedom. We also cant let the area turn into a hotspot of terror training camps
Who gave you that right? The west needs to pull the stick out of their asses. You arent God-sent, you have your own flaws and problems that need fixing. believe it or not, most people are okay the way they are, they dont need changing.

Just LOL @ thinking boots on the ground wont breed terrorist camps. What do you think has been happening for the last 20 years?

The West should try, for once, to stay out of peoples issues and see how that pans out.
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post 1645121463 08-17-2021, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
We have the right to protect those who want to escape especially the women who have finally had a taste of freedom. We also cant let the area turn into a hotspot of terror training camps
Some areas/lands are just hopeless and the west can't help. Afghanistan is one of those regions, history has proven how hard it is to govern such a place, every world power that tried failed.

And we all know most refugees from that area won't be women and children but men that will destabilize the west even more, and enough countries between western europe and Afghanistan where everything is safe. Let's be real, if they go all the way to england, western europe they're economical refugees.

The real change will have to come from the afghan people themselves, not from us in the west.
post 1645121563 08-17-2021, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Location: United Kingdom (Great Britain)

If we go even further it's your fault actually.
Originally Posted By AKMuzzle⏩
Who gave you that right? The west needs to pull the stick out of their asses. You arent God-sent, you have your own flaws and problems that need fixing. believe it or not, most people are okay the way they are, they dont need changing.

Just LOL @ thinking boots on the ground wont breed terrorist camps. What do you think has been happening for the last 20 years?

The West should try, for once, to stay out of peoples issues and see how that pans out.
I never said boots on the ground did i? If you **** things you have to try and help out those in the area that have been negatively effected by the actions i.e women.

Lots of ways to do that - not boots on the ground.
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Almost like you child murderers didnt go invade a soverign nation 20 years ago and bomb the hell out of its civilians lmao and then start the "rebuilding phase" ...brb "collateral damage" "muh bin laden" "muh democracy". Feel sad for the civvies and the families of allied soldiers that lost their lives for nothing more than American imperialism.
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
I never said boots on the ground did i? If you **** things you have to try and help out those in the area that have been negatively effected by the actions i.e women.

Lots of ways to do that - not boots on the ground.
Okay and what do you suggest then to help them? Send food and other aid that will get confiscated by the taliban?
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Some areas/lands are just hopeless and the west can't help. Afghanistan is one of those regions, history has proven how hard it is to govern such a place, every world power that tried failed.

And we all know most refugees from that area won't be women and children but men that will destabilize the west even more, and enough countries between western europe and Afghanistan where everything is safe. Let's be real, if they go all the way to england, western europe they're economical refugees.

The real change will have to come from the afghan people themselves, not from us in the west.
Alot of the men that have been airlifted already where those who helped our troops there. I argee most of the men who just want to leave can be transported to safe zones near ala qatar/saudi.

The women/children and those en who helped our efforts plus the few technical males e.g teachers, translators etc should be allowed to come to the west.

I just feel that we shouldn't just leave them. This **** is on us. I feel terrible watching the scenes in Kabul
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
Alot of the men that have been airlifted already where those who helped our troops there. I argee most of the men who just want to leave can be transported to safe zones near ala qatar/saudi.

The women/children and those en who helped our efforts plus the few technical males e.g teachers, translators etc should be allowed to come to the west.

I just feel that we shouldn't just leave them. This **** is on us. I feel terrible watching the scenes in Kabul
Yes I agree the way the US left there was a complete disaster and showed Biden's incompetence to the world.

Trump was right about leaving that place but it would never have happened like this under his governance.

ISIS was destroyed under Trump, Biden's not even in office for a year and already made the biggest international failure the US has seen in over 15 years.
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
I never said boots on the ground did i? If you **** things you have to try and help out those in the area that have been negatively effected by the actions i.e women.

Lots of ways to do that - not boots on the ground.
We gave them triple the numbers and a god damn Air Force and they surrendered in a few days.

No, we shouldn’t help them in anyway anymore
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Yes I agree the way the US left there was a complete disaster and showed Biden's incompetence to the world.

Trump was right about leaving that place but it would never have happened like this under his governance.

ISIS was destroyed under Trump, Biden's not even in office for a year and already made the biggest international failure the US has seen in over 15 years.
Trump himself said as soon as we leave everything is going to blowup again. There’s nothing trump could have done to leave any better. Even if we wiped out the taliban someone else would come up shortly after we leave and the Afghan army and people would again surrender.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
Trump himself said as soon as we leave everything is going to blowup again. There’s nothing trump could have done to leave any better. Even if we wiped out the taliban someone else would come up shortly after we leave and the Afghan army and people would again surrender.
Come on now, even the average miscer would've handled that situation better. It should have been a slow transition of leaving, not abrupt GTFO there like Biden did.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Yes I agree the way the US left there was a complete disaster and showed Biden's incompetence to the world.

Trump was right about leaving that place but it would never have happened like this under his governance.

ISIS was destroyed under Trump, Biden's not even in office for a year and already made the biggest international failure the US has seen in over 15 years.
The evacuation was completely botched. Should've evacuated the people i mentioned first while we had our military presence.

Plus the intel was just dreadful.
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Originally Posted By navid93⏩
We gave them triple the numbers and a god damn Air Force and they surrendered in a few days.

No, we shouldn’t help them in anyway anymore
We shouldn't have put in and propped up a corrupt government to start with. The soldiers never fought back and for good reason - risking their lives for a government that was corrupt and ran away as soon as **** hit the fan. With a boat load of cash to boot.
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These incels have lost families and are armed and mad. They're probably more aware than we are that Israel has us killing each other. The Chinese are removing their Muslims from history as we speak.

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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
We shouldn't have put in and propped up a corrupt government to start with. The soldiers never fought back and for good reason - risking their lives for a government that was corrupt and ran away as soon as **** hit the fan. With a boat load of cash to boot.
This. It was always a hopeless situation. I would advise everyone to read up their history for a bit, check wikipedia.


And good luck to the chinese, will see how they will handle it.
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
This. It was always a hopeless situation. I would advise everyone to read up their history for a bit, check wikipedia.


And good luck to the chinese, will see how they will handle it.
IMO They are going to try and take a business approach but they gotta be careful due to their own extremist situation.
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Originally Posted By AmuroRay⏩
IMO They are going to try and take a business approach but they gotta be careful due to their own extremist situation.
Taliban delegates already went on a visit to China.

China will take the neo colonialism approach like they do in Africa and other poor nations with their "belt and road" scheme. Will see if this approach works long term. But I doubt the west will set foot there again anytime soon
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