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post 1645440083 08-21-2021, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
I know of 2 more folks today: both have covid, both have double shots pfizer...

every adult case this past summer that I have heard of, have been vaxxed people.
In 2018 there was a bad flu season. I knew 5 people including my dad that I live with that got fuked by flu, fever, coughing, chills, sweats etc for 1-2 weeks. All 5 had the flu shot. In that year I didn't know a single person that has the flu but was unvaccinated. Could just be coincidence but I thought it was pretty funny.
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post 1645440183 08-21-2021, 06:12 PM
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I take a look around and noticed the democrats are in power and pro vaxx, when Trump was in power they were anti vaxx.


Tells me all I need to know really.

Also daily news of vaccination injuries and some vaccines no longer accepted (FUKKIN LOL)


Liberals need to start taking shots up in their azzholes to contain the variants (ded fukn srs)
post 1645440233 08-21-2021, 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan
In 2018 there was a bad flu season. I knew 5 people including my dad that I live with that got fuked by flu, fever, coughing, chills, sweats etc for 1-2 weeks. All 5 had the flu shot. In that year I didn't know a single person that has the flu but was unvaccinated. Could just be coincidence but I thought it was pretty funny.
my mom gets the flu shot every year, most years she gets the flu lol, i have never taken a flu shot and got the flu one time in my teens
post 1645440423 08-21-2021, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By benedetto27
When the vaccines started arriving here, they said that Natives and other minorities had to get them first because of racism. So I am happy to wait until every single BIPOC is vaccinated before getting my shot. In good conscience I cannot get vaccinated until then, to do otherwise would be literal white supremacy and systemic racism.
this is my thought as well, even though I identify as a black native in most settings, its my moral obligation to be one of the last ones to get the covid shot because sometimes I am a white person
post 1645442293 08-21-2021, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted By AlwaysFocus
I take a look around and noticed the democrats are in power and pro vaxx, when Trump was in power they were anti vaxx.


Tells me all I need to know really.

Also daily news of vaccination injuries and some vaccines no longer accepted (FUKKIN LOL)


Liberals need to start taking shots up in their azzholes to contain the variants (ded fukn srs)
When were Democrats anti vaccine? I mean, apart from some granola eating nutters who think the MMR vaccine causes autism and whatnot.
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post 1645443193 08-21-2021, 06:54 PM
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I got covid and recovered before I was even ALLOWED to get a vax, so I figured my immune system did its job and I now have immunity. Now, after being FORCED to get covid the HARD way because I wasn't allowed to be vaccinated, I'm being discriminated against by vaxggits.
Would kick em in the nuts
post 1645444033 08-21-2021, 07:04 PM
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post 1645446033 08-21-2021, 07:39 PM
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Have not gotten the vaccine.

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...accine-safety/

https://health-infobase.canada.ca/co...-19-cases.html

so according to government of canada;
- total covid cases: 1,445,812
- total # of people admitted to ICU (between ages 0-70): 9,519 = 0.658%
- total # of deceased (between ages 0-70): 4,164 = 0.288%

Keep in mind every single news source regardless what stance they have has made it clear that most admitted to ICU and those deceased are people with serious pre-existing health conditions, so the % above is actually far lower for healthy people.
The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) and Health Canada are monitoring Canadian and international reports (World Health Organization, United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, European Medicines Agency, Israel) of myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) and pericarditis (inflammation of the lining around the heart) following vaccination with COVID-19 mRNA vaccines.Data in Canada now indicate a higher number of cases in younger people (i.e. less than 40 years of age)than would normally be expected in the general population.
The opposite is true for the vaccine^ which has been reported to affect younger people more often (with 12,680 cases reported)
post 1645446223 08-21-2021, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN
Would rather die of covid than be a living, vaxxed p8aggot.

Ded fukin srs.
post 1645446263 08-21-2021, 07:42 PM
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I honestly have nothing against the vaccines.. i got the J&J myself (it kicked my ass as i had a bad reaction). Not sure if i am going to get the booster because of this now...


I do not believe in vaccine cards/passports or a vaccine recquirment. Thr vaccine is still new so people should be allowed to make their own choice not be forced to do anything.

Also, the mask mandate is total BS.
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post 1645447483 08-21-2021, 08:05 PM
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Science, data and facts. The Vax is very safe and saves lives and I think people should take it if they want. I will not be taking it however. I'm also not going to start taking HIV medication either because I'm not at risk.
post 1645447943 08-21-2021, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By Bluestar92
Science, data and facts. The Vax is very safe and saves lives and I think people should take it if they want. I will not be taking it however. I'm also not going to start taking HIV medication either because I'm not at risk.
Coincidentally their HIV vaccine is currently in trials.
post 1645448213 08-21-2021, 08:18 PM
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The fact that the establishment has lied non fukking stop for the last 4 years, and has been caught time after fukking time, and now they're like, but why don't you believe us?

Fukk off, I don't believe anything you jerk offs have to say.

That goes for politicians and the stooges in medical community they parade around, along with all the seal clapping media and celebrity douchebags and of course the fukking sheeple that willingly gobble it all up.
post 1645449173 08-21-2021, 08:37 PM
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So people call covid a flu... why are a lot of hospitals at maximum capacity because of the flu? Maybe I'm an idiot but I don't recall ever hearing about icu's being jam packed with flu patients.


not a conspiracy theorist.. I just live under a rock.
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post 1645450663 08-21-2021, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Are the hospitals at maximum capacity?
In some states they are.... Oregon, Washington etc....
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post 1645450823 08-21-2021, 09:02 PM
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post 1645451133 08-21-2021, 09:07 PM
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hospitals still have enough resources to treat all of their COVID patients by putting off all elected surgeries and other non-essential medical treatments,

The point I'm trying to make is that I've never ever heard of hospitals having shortages or capacity issues during flu season. EVER. Nor have I ever heard of hospitals putting off elected surgeries or non-essential medical treatments so they can use their resources on people who are sick with the flu.
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post 1645451733 08-21-2021, 09:15 PM
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I'm against the vaccine because I always thought the covid pandemonium was overblown, had obvious political intentions (getting Trump out of office -- I knew there was going to be a manufactured crisis on election year) and none of the information, actions, protocols that happened really made any sense. So the virus was bull**** as far I was concerned.

Then they come out with a vaccine and I knew beforehand that vaccine manufacturers are legally immune from any prosecution or any kind of civil suit if anyone sustains an adverse reaction to the vaccine, and this covid vaccine fell under the same umbrella of immunity.

It's just common sense, as far as I'm concerned.
post 1645451793 08-21-2021, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted By colbski
hospitals still have enough resources to treat all of their COVID patients by putting off all elected surgeries and other non-essential medical treatments,

The point I'm trying to make is that I've never ever heard of hospitals having shortages or capacity issues during flu season. EVER. Nor have I ever heard of hospitals putting off elected surgeries or non-essential medical treatments so they can use their resources on people who are sick with the flu.
You mean it isn't normal for a city as big as Orlando to beg its citizens to conserve water because the liquid O2 its water treatment facilities rely on is being diverted to covid patients? Huh...

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/20/orla...ion-surge.html
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post 1645452303 08-21-2021, 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted By colbski
hospitals still have enough resources to treat all of their COVID patients by putting off all elected surgeries and other non-essential medical treatments,

The point I'm trying to make is that I've never ever heard of hospitals having shortages or capacity issues during flu season. EVER. Nor have I ever heard of hospitals putting off elected surgeries or non-essential medical treatments so they can use their resources on people who are sick with the flu.
This is in Canada

Take note of the date of the article.

An exclusive analysis of the data by CBC News shows that hospital gridlock — a phenomenon that used to be restricted to surges in patients during flu season — is the new normal.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5420434

post 1645452553 08-21-2021, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted By WishIWasJawBrah
This is in Canada

Take note of the date of the article.

An exclusive analysis of the data by CBC News shows that hospital gridlock — a phenomenon that used to be restricted to surges in patients during flu season — is the new normal.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5420434

ahh... as I mentioned, I live under a rock so I've never really heard about hospital gridlock.
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Originally Posted By colbski
So people call covid a flu... why are a lot of hospitals at maximum capacity because of the flu? Maybe I'm an idiot but I don't recall ever hearing about icu's being jam packed with flu patients.


not a conspiracy theorist.. I just live under a rock.
ICUs operate at 70-80% capacity to begin with. Who knows what kind of trickery they're doing to claim being "full." I'll tell you what though, you won't find a single second of footage of a hospital at "max capacity." I tried. Plenty of TikTok nurse videos though.
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I simply believe that they were made WAY too quickly.

Articles at the beginning of the pandemic (March/April 2020) were all showing "why a coronavirus vaccine in just 18 months is fake news).

But now we got one in less than half that and we are supposedly to believe that there are no risks and unknowns with it?
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Originally Posted By colbski
So people call covid a flu... why are a lot of hospitals at maximum capacity because of the flu? Maybe I'm an idiot but I don't recall ever hearing about icu's being jam packed with flu patients.


not a conspiracy theorist.. I just live under a rock.
bad flu seasons 100% overwhelm hospitals and the worst flu season in the last 40 years (2018) had 80K dead and over 490K hospitalizations.

only difference I see that is glaring between covid and the flu is that it really prays on fat people lol, those are usually the ones that are in ICU.
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Originally Posted By BalognaNbeans
I'm only opposed to mandates / restrictions / vac passports etc. let people make their own choices.
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Originally Posted By CrookedDink
ICUs operate at 70-80% capacity to begin with. Who knows what kind of trickery they're doing to claim being "full." I'll tell you what though, you won't find a single second of footage of a hospital at "max capacity." I tried. Plenty of TikTok nurse videos though.
The ICU at the hospital I work at was usually at full capacity every day of the week before COVID.

The real problem is obesity and problems related to obesity. I have a friend that works in surgery and they amputate limbs every day due to obesity/diabetes complications.

Add to the fact that we have an aging population with baby boomers, most hospitals operate at capacity.

Then add in a bad cold virus (covid) that also effects the same people I listed above, then yeah you're going to have hospitals that appear to be overrun, but the uneducated public doesn't know or understand what I stated above.

The media operates in tandem with the govt and makes money off sensational headlines, so here we are.

The only reason I'm against the vax is because of the mandates, the removal of basic rights if you're not vaxxed, corporations requiring it, etc. It's a slippery slope to travel down over a virus that will not be going away. It's easily survivable for the majority of the population. We need to get on with our lives and let nature due it's thing.
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The way the government has taken a sticks and carrots approach to it all, no FDA approval, and the fact that it has become more political than health. Not just that, COVID has like a 99.7% survival rate.
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