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post 1645582553 08-23-2021, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Imagine being this dumb.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...3Kruger_effect
Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin
Yeah let me take a vaccine that causes inflammation including myocarditis. That's exactly what my immune system wants to battle.
Most myocarditis and pericarditis cases linked to mRNA vaccination have been mild and patients have recovered quickly - it's more common than you think even without the vaccine but you're special and think it's caused by the vaccine and not your own immune system's reaction lmao pls go
post 1645582633 08-23-2021, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
well I have responsibilities like a house payment, a car payment, groceries, etc... and a fiance at home who I am not going to make foot the bill and she cant anyway , just because I want to stand my ground. This isnt quite to the point of giving up everything I have worked for in life and take a massive financial hit just to prove a point.
Wife and I have all of those things as well. Stand tall like a man, coward. How is the government forcing you to inject a vaccine that has no long term health data to study, and doesn't even work against the delta variant, not something for you to stand on? If Autonomy over you're own damn body isn't enough to make you fight for something, then what is??
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Originally Posted By ManwittaPlan
There has to be a wayout, we were given a deadline of October 15, a LOT of us don’t want it. Our union is fighting but will likely lose.

Can you show up and somehow make it look like you got it, slip the person a billfold to shut up and play along, anything. Religious exemption? Any way at all?

Never thought it would come to this…I don’t want this and heard of we get let go we won’t even qualify for unemployment.
Oh yes, I got vaccinated. Thing is I was drinking heavily at the time. Don’t have my papers don’t remember where I got it. But yeah I got vaxxed. Think I got vaxxed 3 times actually.

Will rep if you pull that off successfully.
Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.

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post 1645582693 08-23-2021, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted By ManwittaPlan
There has to be a wayout, we were given a deadline of October 15, a LOT of us don’t want it. Our union is fighting but will likely lose.

Can you show up and somehow make it look like you got it, slip the person a billfold to shut up and play along, anything. Religious exemption? Any way at all?

Never thought it would come to this…I don’t want this and heard of we get let go we won’t even qualify for unemployment.
What job/union?
post 1645582833 08-23-2021, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
You are just an idiot.

The actual data, and yes this is actual factual data not CT data, is that 8.8% of people are experiencing level 3 to level 4 side effects which are debilitating side effects taking you off your feet and being bedridden.

In 1991 VAERS was created, from 1991 to 2019 there were 9000 VAERS deaths to ALL vaccines.
In 2020 there were 200 reported deaths to VAERS
in 2021 there were 14000 deaths reported to VAERs

It does not take a genius to figure out what the difference was between 2020 and 2021 and why there were 13,800 more people dying from vaccines.

I personally have high blood pressure and worry about blood clot issues. I already had covid and have antibodies. You think it is actually a wise decision for me based on this factual information and based on the fact that you are EXPLICITLY warned before receiving the vaccination that it IS known to cause myocarditis and cardiovascular inflammation?
If you're weak and have ch*t genetics like yourself, then by all means just take your chance with covid which has a higher % chance of causing long term effects.

OR you can take a class in statistics and realise the benefits of a vaccine greatly outweight the risks for most of the population. Why not try a different vaccine like the Oxford which doesn't cause heart related conditions in small cases? Thank god retards like yourself and analchron aren't in charge of public health policies.
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Originally Posted By Omnivium
I'm disappointed in all the right wing miscers saying they will cave. The government making you take a drug you don't want is a pretty damn good place to draw the line. If you don't draw the line here, then you probably have no line and you'll cave on the next thing as well
This, all the way. If I don't even have autonomy over my own body then I'm nothing more than a slave.
post 1645583003 08-23-2021, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
Wife and I have all of those things as well. Stand tall like a man, coward. How is the government forcing you to inject a vaccine that has no long term health data to study, and doesn't even work against the delta variant, not something for you to stand on? If Autonomy over you're own damn body isn't enough to make you fight for something, then what is??
the problem is that my job doesnt care about my opinion, if the bosses want to require a vaccine to work there or be fired, then i have 2 option, get the vaccine or get fired. Its already been challenged and taken to the supreme court and it didnt work. This has happened multiple times in multiple states now, and in republican states, it didnt work.

So then I have no job and no income and my mortgage comes up, guess what, the bank who I owe my mortgage to ALSO doesnt give a flying fukk about my political opinion or that I lost my job because I wouldnt get the vaccine, so then we lose our house.

Then the bank that I owe money on my truck to reposses my truck now I cant get a job because I dont have a vehicle or a house.

Thats just not smart, and all over a vaccine? I mean trust me I am against this sht completely and have been voicing my opinion publicly for the duration of covid. But I am not going to lose my house that I just made 100k on in a year and lose my career I have had for 10 years because of this man, thats just stupid no matter how right I am and how wrong the government is.

I am pissed as hell about it because like I said 14,000 people have died to the vaccine and I have high BP right now and dont want to die because of the effects the vaccine has on the heart.
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post 1645583143 08-23-2021, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
If you're weak and have ch*t genetics like yourself, then by all means just take your chance with covid which has a higher % chance of causing long term effects.

OR you can take a class in statistics and realise the benefits of a vaccine greatly outweight the risks for most of the population. Thank god retards like yourself and analchron aren't in charge of public health policies.
thanks for reaffirming my initial statement that you are an idiot because you totally missed the fukking part where I said I already had covid and have antibodies to it and know how my body reacted to covid which was very minor sniffles and losing taste/smell. Never even had a fever or fatigue.

But because I have "weak genetics" because im 265lbs and single digit BF and currently I have high BP because ive pushed myself a little hard lately, I should risk dying eh?
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post 1645583343 08-23-2021, 08:32 PM
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Lol miscers with no friends and career prospects pretending like their life has any meaning because the hill they "will die on" is not taking a vaccine. ****ing lol. Retards gonna retard.
post 1645583423 08-23-2021, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the problem is that my job doesnt care about my opinion, if the bosses want to require a vaccine to work there or be fired, then i have 2 option, get the vaccine or get fired. Its already been challenged and taken to the supreme court and it didnt work. This has happened multiple times in multiple states now, and in republican states, it didnt work.

So then I have no job and no income and my mortgage comes up, guess what, the bank who I owe my mortgage to ALSO doesnt give a flying fukk about my political opinion or that I lost my job because I wouldnt get the vaccine, so then we lose our house.

Then the bank that I owe money on my truck to reposses my truck now I cant get a job because I dont have a vehicle or a house.

Thats just not smart, and all over a vaccine? I mean trust me I am against this sht completely and have been voicing my opinion publicly for the duration of covid. But I am not going to lose my house that I just made 100k on in a year and lose my career I have had for 10 years because of this man, thats just stupid no matter how right I am and how wrong the government is.

I am pissed as hell about it because like I said 14,000 people have died to the vaccine and I have high BP right now and dont want to die because of the effects the vaccine has on the heart.
Honest opinion, do what you have to do unless you have serious health reasons for not doing so.

If you need to get vaxxed to survive (not get fired) do it, and then keep pushing against it.

Being vaxxed will give you some credibility to the pro vax crowd. Be a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.

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Entire NYPD should go on strike. You'll see then how quickly the mayor changes his tone.
post 1645583483 08-23-2021, 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted By Workout4ever
media is the new religion and they will twist whatever is hot at the moment to control you


give up your freedoms for your 'safety' sheep
I just made an in depth thread that compares COVID to Christianity if you want to read. Short version, COVID is the new invisible boogieman you must fear, it is everywhere (God) and can kill you at any moment (demons, the devil) unless you comply with the government (clergy) orders and "trust the science" (faith, trust the prophets) and take your vaccines (baptism, holy water).
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post 1645583593 08-23-2021, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
the problem is that my job doesnt care about my opinion, if the bosses want to require a vaccine to work there or be fired, then i have 2 option, get the vaccine or get fired. Its already been challenged and taken to the supreme court and it didnt work. This has happened multiple times in multiple states now, and in republican states, it didnt work.

So then I have no job and no income and my mortgage comes up, guess what, the bank who I owe my mortgage to ALSO doesnt give a flying fukk about my political opinion or that I lost my job because I wouldnt get the vaccine, so then we lose our house.

Then the bank that I owe money on my truck to reposses my truck now I cant get a job because I dont have a vehicle or a house.

Thats just not smart, and all over a vaccine? I mean trust me I am against this sht completely and have been voicing my opinion publicly for the duration of covid. But I am not going to lose my house that I just made 100k on in a year and lose my career I have had for 10 years because of this man, thats just stupid no matter how right I am and how wrong the government is.

I am pissed as hell about it because like I said 14,000 people have died to the vaccine and I have high BP right now and dont want to die because of the effects the vaccine has on the heart.
How have you been at a job for 10 years and still don't have enough money saved so you can survive for a year or two without a job? You'll find another job. With 10 years of experience in your field, it shouldn't be an issue to get a job for a small company that does what your company does. Valuable employees are much harder to lose for a small company. You're sacrificing your values and principles for... money. That's never a good trade off. A part of you will die inside when they put that needle in your arm. You're gonna feel like a shell of a man that caved for what? A car payment? Not once did you even mention kids, so I'm assuming you don't have any. Having children to feed is a different story. Other than that, good luck looking yourself in the mirror, and getting those semi-annual covid booster shots for the rest of your life.
post 1645583663 08-23-2021, 08:37 PM
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title implies most people were reluctant to get the vacc in the first place. the fact that the majority have already gotten it without subscribing to alt right anti-vacc narratives tends to disagree.

you're strictly talking about CTs who need to get the vacc to stay employed at this point
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Glad to see I'm not the only freedom loving person alive. There are quite a few employees still refusing the vaccine at our local hospital. First coercion didn't work, now they're trying monetary incentives.

It's quite amazing to see how many people cave to keep their job or so their so called freedom.

"But I want to travel!" Yeah lets go to this other field with other sheep that also can't do anything because they caved.
Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin
Yeah let me take a vaccine that causes inflammation including myocarditis. That's exactly what my immune system wants to battle.
Brahs, if you have to get the vax, at least try to wait for the Novavax. It looks promising and more like a traditional vaccine.
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Originally Posted By CrimsonSteel
CRT, SJW, COVID-19...definitely like the new religion, or more accurately, adeath cult.

I'd say the same for memes / sh!tposting, MAGA, Antifa, Proud Boys, BLM, 4chan, and hell, maybe even Misc.
The ones you mentioned are more cult like rather than a religion. COVID is more like a religion because of government involvement and mass media. I made a thread called "COVID is the new religion (explained) about this that compares COVID to Christianity, noting the key players and their roles and how it is identical to Christianity if you really think about it.
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Maybe they got registered without getting injected and they're being smart about it.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
I will go down as an anti-COVID vaxxer.
Ive already been coerced into getting the vaccine. Now I say anti-vaxx stuff all the time. If you already got the vaccine but offer your opinions against it and that STILL offends someone, then that shows they care about manipulating your thoughts, not just achieving the stated goal of mass vaccinations for the greater good. Then you atleast expose their true intents of mind control not vaccination.
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
How have you been at a job for 10 years and still don't have enough money saved so you can survive for a year or two without a job? You'll find another job. With 10 years of experience in your field, it shouldn't be an issue to get a job for a small company that does what your company does. Valuable employees are much harder to lose for a small company. You're sacrificing your values and principles for... money. That's never a good trade off. A part of you will die inside when they put that needle in your arm. You're gonna feel like a shell of a man that caved for what? A car payment? Not once did you even mention kids, so I'm assuming you don't have any. Having children to feed is a different story. Other than that, good luck looking yourself in the mirror, and getting those semi-annual covid booster shots for the rest of your life.
you make it sound like I am agreeing with them in any way shape or form or that If I am forced to get the vaccine or get fired that I will change my own feelings and I wont. I would still be just as adamantly if not even more against vaccine mandates and all of the covid lies and misinformation going around.

But I dont think the vaccine has a microchip in it or it has a secret mixture of something in it they arent telling us, but I do think it poses a threat to my life and its not worth risking that when I already had covid. But if these egotistical manipulative ****s think my life is so invaluable I should risk it just so they feel better or lose my job and my home then so be it. They are the ones who really need to think about looking themselves in the mirror. If I do die I hope everyone in my family and anyone who told me to get vaccinated feels like a total piece of **** the rest of their life, because I have done nothing but fight against it.
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
If you're weak and have ch*t genetics like yourself, then by all means just take your chance with covid which has a higher % chance of causing long term effects.

OR you can take a class in statistics and realise the benefits of a vaccine greatly outweight the risks for most of the population. Why not try a different vaccine like the Oxford which doesn't cause heart related conditions in small cases? Thank god retards like yourself and analchron aren't in charge of public health policies.
at this point getting the vacc is becoming a debate of teleological/utilitarian (greatest good for all) vs deontological (individual rights and moral principle) ethics

the definition of totalitarianism is imposing the former on the individual because it reduces the individual to a farm animal with no say in the matter
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Calls people retards but cannot do anything more than parrot MSM talking points like the good little sheep he is.

He already had covid, so how is he taking chances with covid?

Edit : just saw the edit. They do not have AZ in the US, but if you did the homework, you'd know that. And that the AZ is not mRNA.
So he got lucky? Great for himWe’ll see when you get older though and regarding Az in America all I can say is your country has poverty healthcare anyway jfl @ not having a variety of vaccines to choose from and yes I know Oxford is not mNRA retard
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope
So he got lucky? Great for himWe’ll see when you get older though and regarding Az in America all I can say is your country has poverty healthcare anyway jfl @ not having a variety of vaccines to choose from and yes I know Oxford is not mNRA retard
but there have been 40 million "reported" cases here so its safe to say about 20 million people have had covid and recovered and have antibodies and of them, since heart disease is the number one killer in America, a high number of them probably have a risk of taking the vaccine. Mandating those 20,000,000 people get a vaccine or lose their job and lose their ability to enter businesses IS going to cause a good amount of them to die or be hospitalized when its TOTALLY not helping slow the spread or reduce hospital numbers.

The fact that this is being ignored is a HUGE indicator this isnt about science and saving lives. Otherwise 20million people who had covid and survived would be taken into account, and thats just the US.
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Originally Posted By MikeLowrrrey
You all must forget that a lot of Americans are obese or have some type of health conditions. Obesity amongst other things can drop your survival rate substantially. I know it sucks taking some foreign medicine, but at some point we all will have to get vaccinated.

I'm thinking I go this week.
You aren’t wrong about the majority of Americans. As for me though… The vaxx will have been proven safe and pharma is liable to my family and I am also convinced I need it. If both of those things don’t happen then rip to me I guess. At least I’m waiting until I hit 60 before I take it. They should have it ironed out by then or either it’ll be a non issue.
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Will stand strong. Seriously? People are willing to inject themselves over threats? These people are weak and pathetic.
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Originally Posted By permabulk610
what job/union?
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Originally Posted By eod8989
I mean everyone is going to have to get vaccinated eventually so maybe it's worth it to just take the jab
Honestly I have enough money stashed away to where I can be unemployed for a few years, srs. Was saving for a down payment on a house, but if it comes right down to it I will use that money to live off of while this covid bull**** blows over and employers stop giving a fuk about vaccines and covid is old news.
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah
you make it sound like I am agreeing with them in any way shape or form or that If I am forced to get the vaccine or get fired that I will change my own feelings and I wont. I would still be just as adamantly if not even more against vaccine mandates and all of the covid lies and misinformation going around.

But I dont think the vaccine has a microchip in it or it has a secret mixture of something in it they arent telling us, but I do think it poses a threat to my life and its not worth risking that when I already had covid. But if these egotistical manipulative ****s think my life is so invaluable I should risk it just so they feel better or lose my job and my home then so be it. They are the ones who really need to think about looking themselves in the mirror. If I do die I hope everyone in my family and anyone who told me to get vaccinated feels like a total piece of **** the rest of their life, because I have done nothing but fight against it.
If you think the vax poses a threat to your life, how exactly then is it worth it? You couldn't pay me a trillion dollars to do something that I legitimately thought was a threat to my life. I think its time for some soul searching. The sadness/defeat comes across in your posts. I don't even want to keep going at this with you, at this point I just feel bad. I'm not going to keep piling on. God bless you brother. I hope it all works out for you. I mean that.
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I wonder how many people are indifferent toward the vaccine itself, but avoiding it purely because they don't want to be a phаggot.
They got little baby legs that stand so low
you got to pick 'em up just to say hello.
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Originally Posted By ManwittaPlan
leo/fop
WTF cops too? Even though I disagree with them, I understand restrictions. Weekly testing? Fine. Being restricted around the station, stupid but fine. Being forced to inject an unproven vaccine? Not fine. How are there not enough cops to say "mandate it and we walk" ? Feels like the reason they don't teach basic financial skills in high school is for this exact reason. To leave people with 0 choice because they're terrible with their money and will lose it all if they tell an employer to fuk off.
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