Thread: Everyone around me is caving in
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
“People’s lives are on the line” yeah, so those who can’t get vaccinated for whatever reason are hanging out with those who are vaccinated that might have Covid, but don’t have any side effects so they’re super spreading to everyone instead of staying at home like you normally would when you have the flu…. Make it make sense.This doesn't end with compliance.
2 vaxxers are going to be seen the same as non-vaxxers soon enough. Are you going to keep letting them inject you, or finally wake up?
Listen to his words. "It's not mandated yet, but it might be." He completely shuts down Maher's argument that he should have a say in his own health.
2 vaxxers are going to be seen the same as non-vaxxers soon enough. Are you going to keep letting them inject you, or finally wake up?
Listen to his words. "It's not mandated yet, but it might be." He completely shuts down Maher's argument that he should have a say in his own health.
Are you more likely to spread delta being unvaccinated?
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08-24-2021, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted By _zman⏩
If I died unvaccinated from covid, I would say "damn I guess I probably made the wrong choice"I'm indifferent to Novavax and will likely be the vax I take. I think the other vaxes are safe for the majority of people. Saying they're safe for everyone or everyone should get vaxxed is a problem. The other problem I have is the slippery slope of the lockdowns or vax mandates for people who know/think they aren't safe. The tech and media censorship etc.
It's ok to be skeptical. In fact, I find it healthy and keeps us safe as a species and a society. People should not be ostracized for their reasonable opinions. This should not qualify as a pandemic either and those terms needs to be defined more thoroughly in laws and mandates. This isn't the black plague. The species is not at risk of extinction. And even if we were, what difference does it make that we still exist anyways?
It's ok to be skeptical. In fact, I find it healthy and keeps us safe as a species and a society. People should not be ostracized for their reasonable opinions. This should not qualify as a pandemic either and those terms needs to be defined more thoroughly in laws and mandates. This isn't the black plague. The species is not at risk of extinction. And even if we were, what difference does it make that we still exist anyways?
If I got the ol' droopy face or heart problems from the vaccine, I might actually go insane.
The chances of either are near zero, but the fact that transparently evil people are trying to force me to do something makes it into an important moral dilemma rather than a minor medical decision that I would've put no more thought into than a coin toss.
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08-24-2021, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
No need, its an evolution of proven medical science. If you put a 20 year old, proven designed engine into a new car, you don't need to worry that the engine won't be reliable. Unless you have the data of failed engines to back up the claimI read this far.
Please name a "successful previous vaccine" based on either mRNA or viral vector technology.
Please name a "successful previous vaccine" based on either mRNA or viral vector technology.


08-24-2021, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
No need, its an evolution of proven medical science. If you put a 20 year old, proven designed engine into a new car, you don't need to worry that the engine won't be reliable. Unless you have the data of failed engines to back up the claim


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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Nah you're right they want to wipe out humanity so the Reptilians can finally take full control. Guess the 5g brain waves didn't work
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
The one making the claim which goes against the general narrative is the one responsible for providing evidence to back up said claim. If you're just going to say, 'Its untested and dangerous', with no evidence what so ever, I can only assume you're trolling so nothing more to say on the matter. Your concerns would be better voiced to those who work on vaccines for a living though, so try there and report back after they're done laughing.Please do the slightest bit of research, and you will find out how stupid that statement ( and comparison ) really is.

08-24-2021, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Coachbombay⏩
“Transparency evil people” wtf are listening to?If I died unvaccinated from covid, I would say "damn I guess I probably made the wrong choice"
If I got the ol' droopy face or heart problems from the vaccine, I might actually go insane.
The chances of either are near zero, but the fact that transparently evil people are trying to force me to do something makes it into an important moral dilemma rather than a minor medical decision that I would've put no more thought into than a coin toss.
If I got the ol' droopy face or heart problems from the vaccine, I might actually go insane.
The chances of either are near zero, but the fact that transparently evil people are trying to force me to do something makes it into an important moral dilemma rather than a minor medical decision that I would've put no more thought into than a coin toss.
Srs, drop a link.
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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
The evidence is all of the worlds greatest scientific minds. What's your evidence? Some incel on Youtube with dramatic music and his best Windows Movie Maker editing skills lol. OK boomerPlease quote where I said "untested and dangerous".
If you're just going to say it's safe and effective, with no evidence whatsoever, I can only assume you're trolling so nothing more to say on the matter.
You see how that works?

If you're just going to say it's safe and effective, with no evidence whatsoever, I can only assume you're trolling so nothing more to say on the matter.
You see how that works?

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Originally Posted By Anachron⏩
Onelegsquats HaHa'd your postWhat do I need evidence for, something I haven't said?
But thanks for confirming that you have no evidence, keep trolling brah.
But thanks for confirming that you have no evidence, keep trolling brah.

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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Did you know that all but 7% of the control group in the mRNA trials ended up getting the vaccine?So it wasn't a vaccine, it wasn't based on decades worth of previous vaccine research, and wasn't studied really at all before release. And you're comparing it to the Covid vaccines which are heavily based on decades worth of research and successful previous vaccines? Apples to oranges, low IQ strawman argument.
AZT is the only antiretroviral drug that has received FDA approval for treatment of AIDS since the epidemic began ten years ago, and the decision to approve it was based on a single study that has long been declared invalid.The study was intended to be a “double-blind placebo-controlled study,” the only kind of study that can effectively prove whether or not a drug works. In such a study, neither patient nor doctor is supposed to know if the patient is getting the drug or a placebo. In the case of AZT, the study became unblinded on all sides, after just a few weeks.
Covid vaccines:
The Oxford-AstraZeneca and Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, which are available in the UK, went through clinical trials (here) to prove their safety and efficacy. During the trials, half of the volunteers were given the vaccine and half were given a placebo dummy treatment (here).
Pfizer’s phase three clinical trial began in late July 2020 and the results were published in December 2020 (here). The trial enrolled 46,331 participants at 153 sites around the world in Argentina, Brazil, Turkey, South Africa and the United States, according to Pfizer’s website (here).
Oxford-AstraZeneca’s clinical trials involved 23,848 people across the UK, Brazil, and South Africa between April and November 2020, according to a report published by the Oxford Vaccine Group in the medical journal The Lancet (here , page 1).
A record of both trials can be viewed at ClinicalTrials.gov, an online resource created by the US’ National Institutes of Health (here) and (here).
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2A22D3
Just more conspiracycel strawmen arguments.
AZT is the only antiretroviral drug that has received FDA approval for treatment of AIDS since the epidemic began ten years ago, and the decision to approve it was based on a single study that has long been declared invalid.The study was intended to be a “double-blind placebo-controlled study,” the only kind of study that can effectively prove whether or not a drug works. In such a study, neither patient nor doctor is supposed to know if the patient is getting the drug or a placebo. In the case of AZT, the study became unblinded on all sides, after just a few weeks.
Covid vaccines:
The Oxford-AstraZeneca and Pfizer BioNTech vaccines, which are available in the UK, went through clinical trials (here) to prove their safety and efficacy. During the trials, half of the volunteers were given the vaccine and half were given a placebo dummy treatment (here).
Pfizer’s phase three clinical trial began in late July 2020 and the results were published in December 2020 (here). The trial enrolled 46,331 participants at 153 sites around the world in Argentina, Brazil, Turkey, South Africa and the United States, according to Pfizer’s website (here).
Oxford-AstraZeneca’s clinical trials involved 23,848 people across the UK, Brazil, and South Africa between April and November 2020, according to a report published by the Oxford Vaccine Group in the medical journal The Lancet (here , page 1).
A record of both trials can be viewed at ClinicalTrials.gov, an online resource created by the US’ National Institutes of Health (here) and (here).
https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-f...-idUSKBN2A22D3
Just more conspiracycel strawmen arguments.
There isn't even a control group anymore, and you think these are legit clinical trials. That's not even getting into the fact that the trials aren't supposed to complete until 2023. And yet we have FDA approval already.
Keep parroting the media you retard.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
wow this is the first time in a long time that I actually agree with Bill. Bill used to be reasonable back in the day.This doesn't end with compliance.
2 vaxxers are going to be seen the same as non-vaxxers soon enough. Are you going to keep letting them inject you, or finally wake up?
Listen to his words. "It's not mandated yet, but it might be." He completely shuts down Maher's argument that he should have a say in his own health.
2 vaxxers are going to be seen the same as non-vaxxers soon enough. Are you going to keep letting them inject you, or finally wake up?
Listen to his words. "It's not mandated yet, but it might be." He completely shuts down Maher's argument that he should have a say in his own health.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
Please share factual data proving the media is wrong. Until then, you're just being a paniccel. Your low IQ opinion on the reliability of clinical trials isn't enough to convince anyone except yourself. When you decide to stop believing incel Youtubers have a read of this:Did you know that all but 7% of the control group in the mRNA trials ended up getting the vaccine?
There isn't even a control group anymore, and you think these are legit clinical trials. That's not even getting into the fact that the trials aren't supposed to complete until 2023. And yet we have FDA approval already.
Keep parroting the media you retard.
There isn't even a control group anymore, and you think these are legit clinical trials. That's not even getting into the fact that the trials aren't supposed to complete until 2023. And yet we have FDA approval already.
Keep parroting the media you retard.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2021/02/...d-19-vaccines/
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Originally Posted By dmaaack⏩
Same.Half my family wants nothing to do with me because I won't get it.
Had asymptomatic COVID and not getting the shot.
The world has gone full retard.
Had asymptomatic COVID and not getting the shot.
The world has gone full retard.
Sister, brother in law, and dad all think I’m retarded for not getting it. Can’t have any conversation with them without them bringing it up.
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Okay, he's clearly a troll. Either way, I'll post a link for anyone curious.
Long-Term Studies Of COVID-19 Vaccines Hurt By Placebo Recipients Getting Immunized
Long-Term Studies Of COVID-19 Vaccines Hurt By Placebo Recipients Getting Immunized
February 19, 2021
Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.
"During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine," he says, "and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that."
He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study.
"It's a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it's the right thing to do," he says.
People signing up for these studies were not promised special treatment, but once the FDA authorized the vaccines, their developers decided to offer the shots.
Dr. Steven Goodman, a clinical trials specialist at Stanford University, says losing those control groups makes it more difficult to answer some important questions about COVID-19 vaccines.
"We don't know how long protections lasts," he says. "We don't know efficacy against variants — for which we definitely need a good control arm — and we also don't know if there are any differences in any of these parameters by age or race or infirmity."
To elaborate, only 7% of the control group decided not to get the vaccine (and no data is available if they got it in the period since).Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.
"During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine," he says, "and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that."
He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study.
"It's a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it's the right thing to do," he says.
People signing up for these studies were not promised special treatment, but once the FDA authorized the vaccines, their developers decided to offer the shots.
Dr. Steven Goodman, a clinical trials specialist at Stanford University, says losing those control groups makes it more difficult to answer some important questions about COVID-19 vaccines.
"We don't know how long protections lasts," he says. "We don't know efficacy against variants — for which we definitely need a good control arm — and we also don't know if there are any differences in any of these parameters by age or race or infirmity."
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I actually caved.
I had covid and had zero intentions of getting the vax.
At then end of September I will be going to Puerto Rico. I live in NJ, a crazy weak blue state. Seeing the direction things were going I got it just so I don't get fuked proir to my already paid for vacation.
They may not be able to "force" you to get it, but they can make it hard to do things if you don't...especially in a liberal state like mine.
They can say no gym, no restaurants, no flying m, ect. if you don't have the vax.
If I weren't traveling I would most likely have held out, but I may have shaved 10 years off my life for a one week vacation.
I had covid and had zero intentions of getting the vax.
At then end of September I will be going to Puerto Rico. I live in NJ, a crazy weak blue state. Seeing the direction things were going I got it just so I don't get fuked proir to my already paid for vacation.
They may not be able to "force" you to get it, but they can make it hard to do things if you don't...especially in a liberal state like mine.
They can say no gym, no restaurants, no flying m, ect. if you don't have the vax.
If I weren't traveling I would most likely have held out, but I may have shaved 10 years off my life for a one week vacation.
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Originally Posted By GrimRep_er⏩
https://i.imgur.com/WVRMelw.mp4I actually caved.
I had covid and had zero intentions of getting the vax.
At then end of September I will be going to Puerto Rico. I live in NJ, a crazy weak blue state. Seeing the direction things were going I got it just so I don't get fuked proir to my already paid for vacation.
They may not be able to "force" you to get it, but they can make it hard to do things if you don't...especially in a liberal state like mine.
They can say no gym, no restaurants, no flying m, ect. if you don't have the vax.
If I weren't traveling I would most likely have held out, but I may have shaved 10 years off my life for a one week vacation.
I had covid and had zero intentions of getting the vax.
At then end of September I will be going to Puerto Rico. I live in NJ, a crazy weak blue state. Seeing the direction things were going I got it just so I don't get fuked proir to my already paid for vacation.
They may not be able to "force" you to get it, but they can make it hard to do things if you don't...especially in a liberal state like mine.
They can say no gym, no restaurants, no flying m, ect. if you don't have the vax.
If I weren't traveling I would most likely have held out, but I may have shaved 10 years off my life for a one week vacation.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
How does a lack of control in 1 study prove the vaccine is bad for you, doesn't work, is untested etc and all the other trash conspiracycels come out with? Worry when people start dropping dead in the streets. The problem is we both know that won't happen, but in 5 or 10 years from now you'll have forgotten all about it, without a care in the world about all the people you may have convinced not to get vaccinated and consequently died from covid or got ongoing side effects from it.Okay, he's clearly a troll. Either way, I'll post a link for anyone curious.
Long-Term Studies Of COVID-19 Vaccines Hurt By Placebo Recipients Getting Immunized
To elaborate, only 7% of the control group decided not to get the vaccine (and no data is available if they got it in the period since).
Long-Term Studies Of COVID-19 Vaccines Hurt By Placebo Recipients Getting Immunized
To elaborate, only 7% of the control group decided not to get the vaccine (and no data is available if they got it in the period since).
I'm not one of those guys who actively cares whether you get it or not, I don't even have it myself. But fearmongering is bad for everyone and you're not qualified to make statements on it, and nor am I or anyone else here. If you don't trust it, keep it to yourself.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
How does a lack of control in 1 study prove the vaccine is bad for you, doesn't work, is untested etc and all the other trash conspiracycels come out with? Worry when people start dropping dead in the streets. The problem is we both know that won't happen, but in 5 or 10 years from now you'll have forgotten all about it, without a care in the world about all the people you may have convinced not to get vaccinated and consequently died from covid or got ongoing side effects from it.
I'm not one of those guys who actively cares whether you get it or not, I don't even have it myself. But fearmongering is bad for everyone and you're not qualified to make statements on it, and nor am I or anyone else here. If you don't trust it, keep it to yourself.
I'm not one of those guys who actively cares whether you get it or not, I don't even have it myself. But fearmongering is bad for everyone and you're not qualified to make statements on it, and nor am I or anyone else here. If you don't trust it, keep it to yourself.

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Originally Posted By Ratfish⏩

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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
I don’t see a lot of miscers telling others not to get it, from what I’ve seen most of us just want the choice without losing our freedomsHow does a lack of control in 1 study prove the vaccine is bad for you, doesn't work, is untested etc and all the other trash conspiracycels come out with? Worry when people start dropping dead in the streets. The problem is we both know that won't happen, but in 5 or 10 years from now you'll have forgotten all about it, without a care in the world about all the people you may have convinced not to get vaccinated and consequently died from covid or got ongoing side effects from it.
I'm not one of those guys who actively cares whether you get it or not, I don't even have it myself. But fearmongering is bad for everyone and you're not qualified to make statements on it, and nor am I or anyone else here. If you don't trust it, keep it to yourself.
I'm not one of those guys who actively cares whether you get it or not, I don't even have it myself. But fearmongering is bad for everyone and you're not qualified to make statements on it, and nor am I or anyone else here. If you don't trust it, keep it to yourself.
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For anyone with a conspiracycel view on vaccines, give this a long, hard watch:
Studies have proven that those more prone to believe in conspiracies:
- Have a low income
- Have high anxiety
- Have low levels of education
- Have low levels of trust
Aka your typical miscer lmao
Long list of peer reviewed studies in the description, and discussed by aqualifieddoctor. Let that sink in.
Studies have proven that those more prone to believe in conspiracies:
- Have a low income
- Have high anxiety
- Have low levels of education
- Have low levels of trust
Aka your typical miscer lmao
Long list of peer reviewed studies in the description, and discussed by aqualifieddoctor. Let that sink in.
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
So not a single reputable scientific opinion backing up your claim that it was rushed and experimental? Out of the hundreds of thousands of scientists working in the industry, not a single one agrees? OKSo a video by a youtube Psychiatrist is now an argument to get a rushed and experimental vax of highly dubious effectiveness?
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The natural order of things on a macro level is the longer a vaccine is available, the more people will take it. Comfort increases over time.
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I'm vaccinated. Chit is just fine. Calm down.
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Originally Posted By whowaspotential⏩
Strong username to post correlationI'm vaccinated. Chit is just fine. Calm down.
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Originally Posted By OneLegSquats⏩
Neat.For anyone with a conspiracycel view on vaccines, give this a long, hard watch:
Studies have proven that those more prone to believe in conspiracies:
- Have a low income
- Have high anxiety
- Have low levels of education
- Have low levels of trust
Aka your typical miscer lmao
Long list of peer reviewed studies in the description, and discussed by aqualifieddoctor. Let that sink in.
Studies have proven that those more prone to believe in conspiracies:
- Have a low income
- Have high anxiety
- Have low levels of education
- Have low levels of trust
Aka your typical miscer lmao
Long list of peer reviewed studies in the description, and discussed by aqualifieddoctor. Let that sink in.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...udy-finds.html

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