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post 1645619113 08-24-2021, 11:20 AM
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What do you expect...an unproven drug that they are experimenting with on the general public. Youdontsay.gif
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GF is a nurse and says the same thing. Have seen countless people come through following getting vax'd. Said majority have been older people that 4-6 hours after vax shot present with some symptom they have never had before and makes no sense. But due to age/health they can't confidently say its the vax but what a coincidence right? Then she says there have been a smaller number of younger adults/younger people that have had been admitted after getting the vax and makes absolutely no sense at all. She said there is like a running joke at the hospital like, "Oh must have been from the vax" they say it in jest but nobody actually thinks its a joke... They all know it is, but none of the nurses or DR are willing to go on record and be like Oh yeah its because of the shot... nope they just all know it is though.
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Originally Posted By ooph⏩
GF is a nurse and says the same thing. Have seen countless people come through following getting vax'd. Said majority have been older people that 4-6 hours after vax shot present with some symptom they have never had before and makes no sense. But due to age/health they can't confidently say its the vax but what a coincidence right? Then she says there have been a smaller number of younger adults/younger people that have had been admitted after getting the vax and makes absolutely no sense at all. She said there is like a running joke at the hospital like, "Oh must have been from the vax" they say it in jest but nobody actually thinks its a joke... They all know it is, but none of the nurses or DR are willing to go on record and be like Oh yeah its because of the shot... nope they just all know it is though.
Not chit it's not a coincidence, it's like debating whether Santa is real or not. Fukking childish. The push is to mandate these vaccines, and it's a super strong push by the media
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Originally Posted By crash1181⏩
Just lol at this thread. Man you meat heads are so weak minded.
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post 1645619623 08-24-2021, 11:31 AM
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know someone , whose sister mid 50s previously no underlying health issues and very active, had jab nearly died, fluid on lungs and heart nearly stopped, 2 months later can just about walk 200 metres, docs finally admitted it was the vax but do not know why

fck the vax
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
know someone , whose sister mid 50s previously no underlying health issues and very active, had jab nearly died, fluid on lungs and heart nearly stopped, 2 months later can just about walk 200 metres, docs finally admitted it was the vax but do not know why

fck the vax
All pretty consistent with autoimmune issues. Some say supplementing NAC helps with recovery, I wonder if it helps at all taking it prior? At some point if I'm forced to do this, I want to hedge every bet I can.
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Originally Posted By Griggz⏩
A coworker was vaccinated less than 2 weeks ago and had a heart attack yesterday. It was from a blood clot, but he's ok now.


I am not pointing fingers at the vaccine, but that's because he used to be a druggie. He's been through rehab and clean for like 7 years. He's a skinny dude, but he drinks around 4 bangs per day. Aside from that, he's just an average late 30s guy. He took the vaccine because the company i work for is doing a weekly raffle for $1k to anyone who gets the vaccine.
Nah brah, you can say it was the vaccine because it was. There's zero question about it. Pretty ridiculous that companies are doing that, mine is as well. No thx
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My dad is an anesthesiologist - 90% of the admitted people are unvaxxed and damn near 100% of the people on ventilators are the unvaxxed.....
I'm healthcare so I'm vaccinated, zero side effects for either shot. Of the 12 people in my office, 4 of them were sick the next day, but no other issues.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
All pretty consistent with autoimmune issues. Some say supplementing NAC helps with recovery, I wonder if it helps at all taking it prior? At some point if I'm forced to do this, I want to hedge every bet I can.
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
Firefighters now think they're medical professionals? JFL

stuck to putting fires out and saving cats.

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Originally Posted By Dec4y⏩
My dad is an anesthesiologist - 90% of the admitted people are unvaxxed and damn near 100% of the people on ventilators are the unvaxxed.....
I'm healthcare so I'm vaccinated, zero side effects for either shot. Of the 12 people in my office, 4 of them were sick the next day, but no other issues.
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Originally Posted By plebmaximus⏩
Not in Australia, and there is a huge difference between a paramedic and a Fire Fighter.

Paramedics aren't doctors either, HUGE different between a doctor and a paramedic...
There are doctors and scientists who also don't recommend young healthy people getting the vaccine. So what makes pro vaccine doctors/scientists word the higher authority over the ones that aren't really even anti-vax, but just anti-vax for young & healthy?

Clinical Trials are supposed to take years, we haven't had years to research this, so there is ZERO question that there is a possibility of harmful side effects (i mean almost all medicine does so it's actually assumed) and there is not enough data out there currently to know an accurate % of the occurrence.

At the moment it seems there are a fair amount of observations showing large portions of unvaccinated getting sick and hospitalized from new strains, but there also seems to be a decent percent of observations showing side effects from vaccine and break through cases of people still getting infected even with the vaccine.

I have not seen any study show or expert give definitive proof that the younger healthier population has a better chance of survival from the vaccine that may cause issues itself and also may not prevent certain strains of covid vs just natural immune system.

I personally have a hard time trusting the "message" when 100% of the talk is about masks and vaccine and 0% about improving ones lifestyle to be more healthy which is CLEARLY shown to benefit outcomes and yet that isn't a top priority even worth mentioning??

Yet even with all this, unvaccinated people have no issues with people choosing the vaccine, but lots of vaccinated people want to force it on others which is just ludicrous.
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Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
Interesting, because in the UK and Israel the data shows that only 60% and 50% of patients are unvaxxed
have many patients who are nurses at different hospitals and they say the same. Those ventilators are full of unvaxxed folks. I was surprised, I just assumed it was media hyperbole
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Originally Posted By Dec4y⏩
My dad is an anesthesiologist - 90% of the admitted people are unvaxxed and damn near 100% of the people on ventilators are the unvaxxed.....
I'm healthcare so I'm vaccinated, zero side effects for either shot. Of the 12 people in my office, 4 of them were sick the next day, but no other issues.
Ok and what is the makeup of those ventilated and in hospital? Age? Obese? Avg of 4 comorbidities like it has been this entire pandemic? Context matters here.
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Originally Posted By tunejunkie⏩
Ok and what is the makeup of those ventilated and in hospital? Age? Obese? Avg of 4 comorbidities like all others this entire pandemic? Context matters.
almost always of advanced age with comorbidities, or obese.

But they conveniently leave these pieces out on purpose.
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what's the point of the vaccine again?

you can still get the virus?
you can still spread it?
doesn't protect against new emerging strains?
actually promotes new emerging strains?


oh wait the actual reason for it is to profit off your taxes and control you , create problems and offer "$olutions"
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My god I can't believe a paramedic arrived on the scene of someone who was experiencing shortness of breath.

SUCH A DEADLY VACCINE.

Your logic is so fukking flawed bro.

Half the population is vaccinated, which means HALF of your paramedic calls will be to a vaccinated person.

So now you're just assuming every symptom on the house call you made was caused by a vaccine?

Did you ever go on a call before the vaccine or was everyone just healthy and you never had to?

Just lmao.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
This is the general scuttlebutt. That health professionals and academics are muzzled. Reportedly many very qualified people are publishing [casually of course] under assumed names.



Agree.

At least in the US we have been in a situation where the official narrative is either very much out of date, cherry picked to support a public health goal, or straight up lies.

misc isn't that big, and yet there have been quite a few reports of knowing someone who was sick or even died after being vaccinated. Could be lies. Could be coincidence. But it makes the official talking points that "severe negative medical outcomes from vaccination are vanishingly rare" sound like a big fat lie.



Just like most people are fine with the viral infection.

And this [increased toxicity] can't be thrown out as a possibility.

We are giving everyone the same size dosage of vaccine regardless of age, health, or body size. It could be that younger healthier people have a stronger immune response to vaccination and that is why there are more observations of people in those groups suffering negative effects after vaccination.

Maybe we should be giving smaller doses and spacing them out better. They found that 250 mcg of the Moderna vaccine was "too toxic". They also trialed 100 mcg and 25 mcg. When the vaccine was put into production they went with 100 mcg as it showed an overall stronger effect, but after the fact found that 25 mcg worked too.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01893-0

I'm a total nobody, but why the heck wasn't this pursued farther? Why aren't we giving younger/healthier people the smaller dosage at an 8 week interval?

And, yes, if 250 mcg was "too toxic" and you get three doses of 100 mcg my math says that is 300 mcg.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...us/5152680001/
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It may be coincidence but been having heart palpitations about a week and half after my first dose. NOT getting a second. It was Pfizer. Fukk this poison.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
You do realize that most major fire departments are also their city's primary first responders for all medical calls and have their own EMT's/paramedics/ambulances, right?
Probably not. We literally are usually the first ones there for every little call. Nose bleed we're there. Resident in highrise lies about needing a lift assist and instead wants his AC turned on at 1AM even though his aid is there. We are there. We see every medical call and can get a feel for what is going on. This guy is acting like we are calling ourselves doctors.
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As deaths rise, or it certainly seems like a spike -- in case anyone wants to start throwing blame around to the unvaccinated over the delta variant... note that the delta variant was first found in India and before vaccines were rolled out anywhere. They also had their major spike under control (almost wiped out) when they were administering treatment in the form of hCQ, antibodies and ivermectin. I do not believe any studies currently show them to be effective, so make your own mind up on that one.

... but regardless, you can not pin delta on unvaccenated people when they did not exist at the time it was discovered (meaning, nobody was unvaccinated and there was not vaccine for them not to have taken).
Originally Posted By ItsJamesthefin⏩
Probably not. We literally are usually the first ones there for every little call. Nose bleed we're there. Resident in highrise lies about needing a lift assist and instead wants his AC turned on at 1AM even though his aid is there. We are there. We see every medical call and can get a feel for what is going on. This guy is acting like we are calling ourselves doctors.
I'll also re-state (as the little guy negged me with a very sad/mean message, he was very upset) but nothing you were reporting/saying required a medical degree. You were not doing anything but just saying what you saw with your own eyes.
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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
As deaths rise, or it certainly seems like a spike -- in case anyone wants to start throwing blame around to the unvaccinated over the delta variant... note that the delta variant was first found in India and before vaccines were rolled out anywhere. They also had their major spike under control (almost wiped out) when they were administering treatment in the form of hCQ, antibodies and ivermectin. I do not believe any studies currently show them to be effective, so make your own mind up on that one.

... but regardless, you can not pin delta on unvaccenated people when they did not exist at the time it was discovered (meaning, nobody was unvaccinated and there was not vaccine for them not to have taken).

I'll also re-state (as the little guy negged me with a very sad/mean message, he was very upset) but nothing you were reporting/saying required a medical degree. You were not doing anything but just saying what you saw with your own eyes.
Here's Pakistan who are 10% vaccinated and have almost double the population density of 60% vaccinated Israel.

Edited for clarification to prove that these are both the same x-axis time period.

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Originally Posted By JUSA⏩
As deaths rise, or it certainly seems like a spike -- in case anyone wants to start throwing blame around to the unvaccinated over the delta variant... note that the delta variant was first found in India and before vaccines were rolled out anywhere. They also had their major spike under control (almost wiped out) when they were administering treatment in the form of hCQ, antibodies and ivermectin. I do not believe any studies currently show them to be effective, so make your own mind up on that one.

... but regardless, you can not pin delta on unvaccenated people when they did not exist at the time it was discovered (meaning, nobody was unvaccinated and there was not vaccine for them not to have taken).

I'll also re-state (as the little guy negged me with a very sad/mean message, he was very upset) but nothing you were reporting/saying required a medical degree. You were not doing anything but just saying what you saw with your own eyes.
If there was no vaccine, wasn't everyone unvaccinated?
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
Here's Pakistan who are 10% vaccinated and have almost double the population density of 60% vaccinated Israel.

Edited for clarification to prove that these are both the same x-axis time period.

You're showing Palestine and Israel. Nothing to do with Pakistan
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...us/5152680001/
Um, das not it mane.

I didn't make any claim that the vaccine was poisonous or had poison in it. This was from a paper in Nature which I linked:
In the earliest trial of Moderna’s mRNA-based vaccine, study participants received one of three dose levels: 25, 100 or 250 micrograms3.The top dose proved too toxic.The low dose elicited the weakest immune response. The middle dose seemed to offer the best balance: it triggered strong immunity and had acceptable side effects.
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
Um, das not it mane.

I didn't make any claim that the vaccine was poisonous or had poison in it. This was from a paper in Nature which I linked:
Then what did you mean when you said "increased toxicity" and "too toxic"?

You understand the relationship between half life and dose schedules, right?
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Originally Posted By II
My god I can't believe a paramedic arrived on the scene of someone who was experiencing shortness of breath.

SUCH A DEADLY VACCINE.

Your logic is so fukking flawed bro.

Half the population is vaccinated, which means HALF of your paramedic calls will be to a vaccinated person.

So now you're just assuming every symptom on the house call you made was caused by a vaccine?

Did you ever go on a call before the vaccine or was everyone just healthy and you never had to?

Just lmao.
He's a paramedic, not an epidemiologist.
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