Anything that goes against mainstream narrative is blamed on "Russian collusion" lmao. Come on man!

https://www.adrreports.eu/en/index.html

Alright so bear with me here:

1) When it comes to COVID deaths, the following applies automatically (it's a 1 minute video, just watch it). Get in a car accident but test positive for COVID? That's a COVID death!



2) Based on the above, from a cursory review of COVID deaths if you can imagine the entire country did the same thing as what was done in the link below, that's a bare minimum of 20% fewer deaths than were reported:

https://sanjosespotlight.com/santa-c...hs-by-over-20/

Now, when someone posts something on VAERS or the European database, for example someone has a heart attack 2 days after taking the vaccine, there's ZERO correlation, right? Conspiracy!

I am not claiming every injury/death posted in those databases is legitimately linked to vaccines. However, you would have to be naïve to believe it's all fake.


Debunk that.

edit: let me guess, the video is a doctored video from Russia (they hired a black lady and faked the background), and they faked the article about Santa Clara as well?

How cute, still arguing in bad faith.

I think you need to check your math there.

Why are you only counting myocarditis and not pericarditis?

It won't be as low as your numbers, as that would mean that anyone who had one, had the other.

Senseless exercise anyway, this is just once again a deflection into semantics, and really nothing more than a waste of time.

Lmao, what a failure. Just what I expected, libs/provax people never have a logical argument for what I just posted. Here's the sequence of events:

1) I posted a website that linked to a database full of vaccine injuries/deaths.
2) You posted an article "debunking" that website and database by calling it a conspiracy theory, and blaming it on Russians.
3) I posted a video detailing how COVID deaths are counted and followed up with an article clearly supporting that video, in an effort to demonstrate the hypocrisy in calling a vaccine injury/death database a conspiracy, but taking every COVID death as legitimate.
4) You post some bullchit logical theory of how I avoided the original argument? I just backed it up.

Admit when you goofed, you're just making yourself look stupid at this point.

Lmao, what a failure. Just what I expected, libs/provax people never have a logical argument for what I just posted. Here's the sequence of events:

1) I posted a website that linked to a database full of vaccine injuries/deaths.
2) You posted an article "debunking" that website and database by calling it a conspiracy theory, and blaming it on Russians.
3) I posted a video detailing how COVID deaths are counted and followed up with an article clearly supporting that video, in an effort to demonstrate the hypocrisy in calling a vaccine injury/death database a conspiracy, but taking every COVID death as legitimate.
4) You post some bullchit logical theory of how I avoided the original argument? I just backed it up.

Admit when you goofed, you're just making yourself look stupid at this point.

We don't even have to get into that, in the case of Moderna, every single case of myocarditis would also have to have pericarditis to get his number.

But it seems you have a reading comprehension problem too - seems to be prevalent amongst the vaxcels.



I wonder if vaxcels will ever stop being intellectually dishonest, and engage in a sensible discussion.

All signs point to no.



The hypocrisy is appaling.

I thought you were better than this.

so, not going to address the video and article I posted? just going to hide behind this statement instead?

Then let's treat all Pfizer as independent

0.0000015875706%

(143+138)/177000000

O.0000015875705 is 0.00015875705% Anachron means

Sorry, not following your math. I think you might want to look at the vaccination status of the deceased and hospitalized.

Then let's treat all Pfizer as independent

0.00015875706%

(143+138)/177000000

Btw Destor, here's another link with a video from this same doctor @ 3:05 saying that they overcounted. This is from a MAINSTREAM MEDIA source which you probably love. Did the Russians hack the website and post this video in there as well?

https://www.nbcchicago.com/top-video...eaths/2270819/

Still out of context? Note that this one is May 12th, while the one I posted above is April 20th.

Also note, this doctor is Harvard educated, so she isn't some dumb shill if the next play is to attack her credentials.

Thank you for this thread OP.

A nurse and I were sent today by our supervisor to get a weekly test while we still can (Sept. 27 mandate hits). She told me she doesn't want the vaccine because all her friends that got it have weird bodily symptoms (she didn't go into detail). I just can't believe this chit..I'm about to drop out of a graduate degree (completed MD part) and risk verything just to avoid getting stuck.

Shhh, he's still figuring out percentages.

I’m going to wait this shït out until it blows over….it’s clear this is the new flu, but all the normie mouth breathing fcks literally won’t figure it out/accept it until Anthony Fibonacci/MSM tells them so.

I’ve just had it with humanity as a whole - if this sht didn’t open anyone’s eyes to the elaborate facade that constitutes ‘daily normal life’ I don’t know what will.

My engineering role is mostly related to logic/analysis in excruciating detail. I understand there is a massive data collection effort, not arguing that.

You claim that the official numbers are undercounted (and that this specific doctor claims that as well), but I have posted two separate videos a month apart of the same doctor claiming the exact opposite (and I don't see how they are out of context..). How can you say she is claiming deaths are undercounted, in good faith? She is clearly shown on video detailing the death counting policy.

Not only that, but maybe someone might argue that well, Illinois was an outlier and no other place was using that counting methodology, but nearly a year later we have proof from a completely different state that that's exactly what was going on (the Santa Clara article), and they reported a 20% overage in the death toll. Do you not see the connection there?

In addition, how do you explain the reduction in flu deaths, heart related deaths, cancer related deaths, smoking related deaths, etc? Do you sincerely believe that everyone with any health problem at all was just 100% killed by COVID?

What irks me is that most people DO believe that, but when a vaccine skeptic (and to be sincere, I took the flu vaccine in December 2019, so I am not anti vax) points out the spike in VAERS (or in my case, European VAERS database) reports, it is immediately dismissed as conspiracy or that there is no link between vaccines and injuries/deaths.


People ask for evidence when someone criticizes the vaccine, but when clear evidence is posted, it's ridiculed as a conspiracy theory or something else. It's not arguing in good faith, IMO. You can keep throwing "Putin" around but when you have to resort to criticism/ridicule instead of logic, credibility just goes out the window man..



And just for fun, there is something like 12,000 reports in the VAERS database regarding the COVID vaccines; in order for it to be bullchit, you'd have to reduce that number to something like 200 since so many people are vaccinated, which means something like 98% of reports in VAERS are unrelated to vaccines. You believe that?

To be entirely honest, 80K would be a really bad year for the flu, and those were not accurate numbers either.

Yeah it was a bad year. That’s why it was on the high end of the scale. And guess what? nobody did chit but say “oh it was a bad flu season. Oh well”. And life moved on. Literally nothing was done

I remember flu season 2017-2018. hundreds of thousands of people hospitalized across the country, almost everyone I knew was down with it sometime between November-January, health centers overwhelmed and people were just like oh well, life has to go on. It's only until COVID came around when people thought they could legit stop viruses.

my point being:
- how many of those doses were given to young males below the age of 30? this is the age group relevant to my interest.
- how many of cases HAVE NOT happened yet and might happen within the next 5 years?
- did the website state what was considered "officially" myocarditis and what constitutes as a "minor" case? is there a possibility the vaccine gives you "minor" side effects?

you can't answer these questions, right?

edit: my point being, why do i, a healthy male with no underlying health issues and not obese and "regularly' exercise, have to be forced to take a vaccine for an "illness" that young healthy males under the age of 30 don't even consist of 1% of the death rate ? Mind you this vaccine has side effects that not EVERYONE can claim to know 100% of, even 50% of 5 years from now since there's no data.

boring

wake me up when the apocalypse is actually happening