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post 1645702713 08-25-2021, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By permabulk610
my wife is a nurse. She has been given to september 5th to get her first dose or she is being terminated. We knew this was coming for a few months now and here it is. We have significant cash savings, enough to live for at least 3 years before ever having to dip into our retirement accounts. No job will ever take our right to decide what we get to put in our own bodies.

The struggle has arrived on our door step and we're ready to take it on head first. Fuk these companies, and fuk this country for turning two people who used to love this country and just want to make an honest living, into two people ready to completely disconnect from society if it comes to that. It's time to hustle up. I already found a job to make a few bucks until we figure out the ultimate move for us. I'm supposed to be starting a new job that would be plenty to keep living how we've been, but i suspect they'll be mandating the vax as well, which of course i'll be declining. I've been trying to figure out what sort of small business i can start so i can work for myself. Time will reveal these things for me. I have absolutely zero doubt that we'll be just fine. God has his hands on us, no doubt.

Anyone who is facing this same situation, stand tall. If you are indifferent to the vax, then do what you need to do. But if you're truly against taking this vaccine, don't fold. If you don't even have autonomy over you're own body, you're nothing more than a slave anyway. I'm 100% sure our friends and family will think that we're overreacting and are foolish for taking this stance. I'm good with that though because i have to look myself in the mirror everyday, they don't. The moment i sacrifice my values and principles for money, my soul is gone. This entire pandemic has never added up. From the fake videos of the chinese keeling over in the street, to this incredible push to get people vaccinated that isn't even allowed to be questioned in the slightest without being labelled a moron, anti-vaxxer, racist, etc., has never felt right to me.

I truly hope, for everyone's sake, that this vaccine is safe and proves to be so 5 or 10 years down the line. I'll be part of the control group, regardless of what that costs me. Jnj and pfizer have a significant track record of mistakes. Moderna has never even brought another drug to market to my knowledge. No chance i'll be a guinea pig for these companies.

Stay strong people. It feels lonely, but i think there are a lot more of us out there than they're leading on. Some sacrifices will have to be made, but keeping your values and principles intact are worthy of those sacrifices.
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post 1645702873 08-25-2021, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By turdburglar9021
Congratulations on ruining your careers over nothing
I bet you’re the type who would let the government shove a dildo up your ass for $100.
post 1645702883 08-25-2021, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By mp83
Just get the damn vaccine. What are you so afraid of?
The government doesnt decide what I will or wont do (especially what I put into my body). I am a free man, period and end of story.

I dont care what the FDA says
I dont care what Biden has to say
I dont care what the company I work for has to say

The laws I obey, I obey because I see the reason and agree to comply with...The moment I stop agreeing with the law, I no longer comply.
post 1645703083 08-25-2021, 01:35 PM
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What happened to the liberal’s “ my body my choice” mantra?


Bunch of stupid hypocrites
post 1645703103 08-25-2021, 01:35 PM
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post 1645703343 08-25-2021, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By chino3
for fukks sake, you make it sound like there is some legit battle happening.
My right to work and make an honest living is about as significant as a non-physical battle can be. Thanks to this country and my own work ethic, I've been able to live a very good life. All of that is changing. And just because I'm not going to War, and sacrificing my physical body and life, doesn't mean that i'm not sacrificing something of value. My entire life, as i've known it for the last 10+ years is about to be flipped upside down.

And I wouldn't be so sure about no legit battle happening. The whole game changes when they stop letting unvaccinated people into grocery stores and other essential places. It's already happening in France, pay attention.
post 1645703383 08-25-2021, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By turdburglar9021
Congratulations on ruining your careers over nothing
this
Originally Posted By shmobin
I hope you all disowned your parents for vaccinating you as an infant without your consent.
and this lmao
post 1645703523 08-25-2021, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted By turdburglar9021
Congratulations on ruining your careers over nothing
I wouldn't call the ability to decide what I get to put in my own body, "nothing". Different strokes I guess.
post 1645703643 08-25-2021, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
My right to work and make an honest living is about as significant as a non-physical battle can be. Thanks to this country and my own work ethic, I've been able to live a very good life. All of that is changing. And just because I'm not going to War, and sacrificing my physical body and life, doesn't mean that i'm not sacrificing something of value. My entire life, as i've known it for the last 10+ years is about to be flipped upside down.

And I wouldn't be so sure about no legit battle happening. The whole game changes when they stop letting unvaccinated people into grocery stores and other essential places. It's already happening in France, pay attention.
Or you could… just get the vaccine.
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
My right to work and make an honest living is about as significant as a non-physical battle can be. Thanks to this country and my own work ethic, I've been able to live a very good life. All of that is changing. And just because I'm not going to War, and sacrificing my physical body and life, doesn't mean that i'm not sacrificing something of value. My entire life, as i've known it for the last 10+ years is about to be flipped upside down.

And I wouldn't be so sure about no legit battle happening. The whole game changes when they stop letting unvaccinated people into grocery stores and other essential places. It's already happening in France, pay attention.
Thank God i live in Fl

If grocery stores start mandating this you’re gonna have a civil war in this country.
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Originally Posted By shmobin
I hope you all disowned your parents for vaccinating you as an infant without your consent.
You mean those tried and true vaccines that were long tested and deemed safe, for actual diseases that would kill me like polio, mmr, etc. I thanked them for that.
But keep on using that same intellectually dishonest argument by pretending this Covid vaccine is anything like those other vaccines.

If I had kids, they would be getting all of the vaccines, minus the Covid one. Have you scheduled your booster yet?
post 1645703753 08-25-2021, 01:46 PM
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Not a decision I’d make but I can respect the principle.
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Its really just a liability thing + companies are getting govt $$$ for each vax'd employee.

The ceos & board members of these companies fear lawsuits of someone getting covid & them turning around and suing the company for not taking "all possible precautions", more than they fear being sued for termination for not taking shot.

Judges dont know chit about these shots, they watch the same news that has brainwashed millions of other people.

Only way to turn this around is if the 40% that havent got a covid shot all walk out/strike at once across the nation.

If they do this incrementally, the pain on industries mandating wont be big enough.
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Originally Posted By frozennorth
Or you could… just get the vaccine.
or I could... just get my rifle.

People are so willing to give up the shreds of personal freedom we still have, but some of us have conviction even in the face of tyranny.
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post 1645703983 08-25-2021, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
You mean those tried and true vaccines that were long tested and deemed safe, for actual diseases that would kill me like polio, mmr, etc. I thanked them for that.
But keep on using that same intellectually dishonest argument by pretending this Covid vaccine is anything like those other vaccines.

If I had kids, they would be getting all of the vaccines, minus the Covid one. Have you scheduled your booster yet?
It could be exactly like those. You just don't know yet.

I do not intend to get a booster shot.
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Originally Posted By chino3
for fukks sake, you make it sound like there is some legit battle happening.
Originally Posted By randombrah102
this

and this lmao
You guys may think he sounds silly, but I think the reverse is more true.

I got the vaccine, and overall it looks low risk statistically to get it, but people have always had the choice. There have always been people who exist that avoid any vaccines and we let them. Now a virus comes along that has a 99.5% survival rate and corporations and governments want to force it on their populations? Sure the vaccine might be extremely low risk, but OP is right about having autonomy and it's bizarre how forceful these entities are trying to be with imposing this vaccine on others.

Get it or don't get it, but the side making the biggest fuss is the side trying to force requirements on others.
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Originally Posted By frozennorth
Or you could… just get the vaccine.
Dont listen or respond to this guy , he wont get it.Hes too brainwashed.
post 1645704263 08-25-2021, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By frozennorth
Or you could… just get the vaccine.
Or perhaps, if there was any logic at all to this whole thing, they would just allow anyone unvaccinated to get tested weekly. My wife has been working with Covid patients the entire pandemic, never once had Covid, never once brought any illnesses in to the hospital. Now all of a sudden she's not good enough to care for her patients?

Be honest, If the right to choose what goes into your own body isn't worthy of fighting for, then what exactly would you say is?
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Originally Posted By Babayagawick85
Thank God i live in Fl

If grocery stores start mandating this you’re gonna have a civil war in this country.
Funny you think Florida is safe from clown world. And sorry to tell you but they keep going with this and there will be no civil war. People will eventually just obey

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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
Or perhaps, if there was any logic at all to this whole thing, they would just allow anyone unvaccinated to get tested weekly. My wife has been working with Covid patients the entire pandemic, never once had Covid, never once brought any illnesses in to the hospital. Now all of a sudden she's not good enough to care for her patients?

Be honest, If the right to choose what goes into your own body isn't worthy of fighting for, then what exactly would you say is?
If there was any trace amount of logic, we wouldve been testing for natural antibodies to determine herd immunity.

And we'd be testing for antibodies before immunizing, theres no benefit to getting the shot if you already have natural antibodies.


But natural antibodies doesnt make $, and natural antibodies cant be used to make a passport where you need to get 2+ shots a year to participate in society.
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Originally Posted By shmobin
I hope you all disowned your parents for vaccinating you as an infant without your consent.
Are you so intellectually dishonest that you can actually pretend these are the same things? Measles vaccinations that actually grant immunity vs experimental gene therapy that allow the disease to spread?
A million miles away - I don't.. feel.... anything.
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Originally Posted By shmobin
It could be exactly like those. You just don't know yet.

I do not intend to get a booster shot.
Right, could be, get back to me in ten years when could be becomes, definitely is. In addition to that, let me know when healthy 35 year olds are dropping like flies from Covid. I don't need this Covid vaccine. Especially one that doesn't even work. Which is being pushed on all of us like something out of a Sci Fi movie, and completely unallowed to be scrutinized. I've calculated my risks and decided that i'll take my chances if I get Covid.

Regardless of your take on the vaccine. Pro or against, it would be completely dishonest to say that there is absolutely nothing about this vaccine push that makes you question it. Suppressing information on side effects, not counting breakthrough cases unless they're hospitalized, the successful media push to turn people against each other over this, refusing to even consider treatment options so they can push the vaccine as the only solution, manipulating the data they put out to make Covid look worse than it is, Paying hospitals more money when they report Covid cases.. the list goes on.

Regardless of the conclusion you reach, if you didn't at least try to think critically about this before deciding to get vaccinated, then I don't really know what to tell you.
To me, after thinking about it all, I've decided I wasn't going to get it. Telling me that I have no choice and I have to take it? Get fukd. I decide what I do with my body.
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Oh too bad, now she can go and do travel nursing for 8-12 weeks and make $75-100/hr before overtime.
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr
The government doesnt decide what I will or wont do (especially what I put into my body). I am a free man, period and end of story.

I dont care what the FDA says
I dont care what Biden has to say
I dont care what the company I work for has to say

The laws I obey, I obey because I see the reason and agree to comply with...The moment I stop agreeing with the law, I no longer comply.
Lol it's not a law. Your employer has every right to fire you for whatever reason they want (as long as its not a protected class, and being an anti-vax moron isn't a protected class).

Sorry, boyo, but you're getting cucked by your fear of a little jab here
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Originally Posted By seanb1979
Are you so intellectually dishonest that you can actually pretend these are the same things? Measles vaccinations that actually grant immunity vs experimental gene therapy that allow the disease to spread?
Or the fact that you had absolutely no say what your parents did to you (like getting your dink skin chopped off for example). Now it's being forced upon you. Completely different.
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Originally Posted By PermaBulk610
Or perhaps, if there was any logic at all to this whole thing, they would just allow anyone unvaccinated to get tested weekly. My wife has been working with Covid patients the entire pandemic, never once had Covid, never once brought any illnesses in to the hospital. Now all of a sudden she's not good enough to care for her patients?

Be honest, If the right to choose what goes into your own body isn't worthy of fighting for, then what exactly would you say is?
So she's fine with potentially spreading it to her patients? She deserves to get fired for being a terrible nurse.
Originally Posted By PepperedAngus
or I could... just get my rifle.

People are so willing to give up the shreds of personal freedom we still have, but some of us have conviction even in the face of tyranny.
A company requiring their employees to get vaccinated isn't taking away your freedom. Just like you have the freedom to be an anti-vax moron, they have every right to fire someone who refuses to get inoculated.
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Can she not submit religious exemption? I work in a hospital and we're facing a similar situation but about 1/3 of my department is planning to do the religious exemption. Supervisor already said "no questions asked."
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what will she do for work? she won't be allowed to be a nurse again for quite some time obviously since the world will just ask for vaxx proof before hiring from now on.
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