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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Yes, I actually do...but are you suggesting that if I didn’t, then somehow my lack of action makes another’s disregard for life acceptable?You don't think your actions throughout your whole life hasn't killed people in some way shape or form?
What are you doing to keep the lives that are alive here, alive? Do you donate your time, money, energy to causes that provide help to children that do need it?
What are you doing to keep the lives that are alive here, alive? Do you donate your time, money, energy to causes that provide help to children that do need it?
I’m not following your logic here..
There is a difference between a premeditated blatant action that’s results in the loss of another’s life..
And an action I might have done that caused a butterfly effect to someone in India.
You cannot be serious with this..
09-07-2021, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted By JPF82⏩
Lockdowns caused far more deaths than Covid could ever hoped too..wtf are you on bro?Do you prefer lock downs for covid?
Or people to choose what they do, where they go, and how they go about doing it?
Or people to choose what they do, where they go, and how they go about doing it?
09-07-2021, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
by your logic everything that walks on two legs is a humanYou: "I see you poured a concrete foundation".
Me: "Yeah, I'm building a house".
You: "No, that's not a house".
Me: "Yeah, I'm building a house".
You: "No, that's not a house".
Originally Posted By Paul
lol, no ...Abortion is one of the most controversial issues discussed in medical ethics . but the medical community doesnt have a full consensus that an embryo/fetus is a living thing. The only idiots who believe so are the lgbt/feminazis/liberals ... everyone just support it for maximus attentious whorous aka attention whoring.Again..the entire Medical & Scientific Community agree that human life begins at conception. It’s not a debate...you do understand that.
Also..your argument is the fukin worse man. having a certain level of development does not determine personhood. Being a biological human does. A 'fetus' is a biological person.
No one is fully developed until at least 25 years of age. What about children?
Already, there are bioethicists who say that a 12 year old is not developed enough to considered a person. A person is human and a human is a person. And a person is not disposable. A fetus is not a thing, it is a stage of development. From conception, a unique and unrepeatable human life is formed. It is not a potential person.
Development does not determine personhood.
What about the serverly mentally handicapped? Oh wait, bioethisicts have said in the past that they are non-persons to.
When personhood is rooted in anything other than being biologically human, who counts as a person becomes arbitrary with no objective
Also..your argument is the fukin worse man. having a certain level of development does not determine personhood. Being a biological human does. A 'fetus' is a biological person.
No one is fully developed until at least 25 years of age. What about children?
Already, there are bioethicists who say that a 12 year old is not developed enough to considered a person. A person is human and a human is a person. And a person is not disposable. A fetus is not a thing, it is a stage of development. From conception, a unique and unrepeatable human life is formed. It is not a potential person.
Development does not determine personhood.
What about the serverly mentally handicapped? Oh wait, bioethisicts have said in the past that they are non-persons to.
When personhood is rooted in anything other than being biologically human, who counts as a person becomes arbitrary with no objective
Originally Posted By Paul
yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfortAlso a bit of education:
Just 22 days after conception, the baby's hearts starts beating. At 6 weeks, brain waves can be measured. At 8 weeks, the stomach, liver, kidneys and brain are functioning and fingertips have formed. More that 500,000 abortions are done each year in America after the eighth week of pregnancy.
Just 22 days after conception, the baby's hearts starts beating. At 6 weeks, brain waves can be measured. At 8 weeks, the stomach, liver, kidneys and brain are functioning and fingertips have formed. More that 500,000 abortions are done each year in America after the eighth week of pregnancy.
you really believe this is a living human?
Cherish your life. Live to tell your story
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Dude, you are the dumbest fukin poster here. Of course it is alive lol.by your logic everything that walks on two legs is a human
lol, no ...Abortion is one of the most controversial issues discussed in medical ethics . but the medical community doesnt have a full consensus that an embryo/fetus is a living thing. The only idiots who believe so are the lgbt/feminazis/liberals ... everyone just support it for maximus attentious whorous aka attention whoring.
yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfort
lol, no ...Abortion is one of the most controversial issues discussed in medical ethics . but the medical community doesnt have a full consensus that an embryo/fetus is a living thing. The only idiots who believe so are the lgbt/feminazis/liberals ... everyone just support it for maximus attentious whorous aka attention whoring.
yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfort
Human Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:
"Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote."
[England, Marjorie A. Life Before Birth. 2nd ed. England: Mosby-Wolfe, 1996, p.31]
-Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]
"Embryo: the developing organism from the time of fertilization until significant differentiation has occurred, when the organism becomes known as a fetus, a distinct new human/individuated emerges'
[Cloning Human Beings. Report and Recommendations of the National Bioethics Advisory Commission. Rockville, MD: GPO, 1997, Appendix-2.]
"Embryo: An organism in the earliest stage of development; in a man, from the time of conception to the end of the second month in the uterus."
[Dox, Ida G. et al. The Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary. New York: Harper Perennial, 1993, p. 146]
"Embryo: The early developing fertilized egg that is growing into another individual of the species. In man the term 'embryo' is usually restricted to the period of development from fertilization until the end of the eighth week of pregnancy."
[Walters, William and Singer, Peter (eds.). Test-Tube Babies. Melbourne: Oxford University Press, 1982, p. 160]
"The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]
"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new human life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
[Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]
"I would say that among most scientists, the word 'embryo' includes the time from after fertilization..."
[Dr. John Eppig, Senior Staff Scientist, Jackson Laboratory (Bar Harbor, Maine) and Member of the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 31]
"The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Sadler, T.W. Langman's Medical Embryology. 7th edition. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins 1995, p. 3]
"The question came up of what is an embryo, when does an embryo exist, when does it occur. I think, as you know, that in development, life is a continuum.... But I think one of the useful definitions that has come out, especially from Germany, has been the stage at which these two nuclei [from sperm and egg] come together and the membranes between the two break down."
[Jonathan Van Blerkom of University of Colorado, expert witness on human embryology before the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 63]
"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]
"The chromosomes of the oocyte and sperm are...respectively enclosed within female and malepronuclei. These pronuclei fuse with each other to produce the single, diploid, 2N nucleus of the fertilized zygote. This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero time point of embryonic development."
[Larsen, William J. Human Embryology. 2nd edition. New York: Churchill Livingstone, 1997, p. 17]
"Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity."
[O'Rahilly, Ronan and M�ller, Fabiola. Human Embryology & Teratology. 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29. This textbook lists "pre-embryo" among "discarded and replaced terms" in modern embryology, describing it as "ill-defined and inaccurate" (p. 12}]
"Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)... The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual."
[Carlson, Bruce M. Patten's Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3]
"[A]nimal biologists use the term embryo to describe the single cell stage, the two-cell stage, and all subsequent stages up until a time when recognizable humanlike limbs and facial features begin to appear between six to eight weeks after fertilization....
"[A] number of specialists working in the field of human reproduction have suggested that we stop using the word embryo to describe the developing entity that exists for the first two weeks after fertilization. In its place, they proposed the term pre-embryo....
"I'll let you in on a secret. The term pre-embryo has been embraced wholeheartedly by IVF practitioners for reasons that are political, not scientific. The new term is used to provide the illusion that there is something profoundly different between what we nonmedical biologists still call a six-day-old embryo and what we and everyone else call a sixteen-day-old embryo.
"The term pre-embryo is useful in the political arena -- where decisions are made about whether to allow early embryo (now called pre-embryo) experimentation -- as well as in the confines of a doctor's office, where it can be used to allay moral concerns that might be expressed by IVF patients. 'Don't worry,' a doctor might say, 'it's only pre-embryos that we're manipulating or freezing. They won't turn into real human embryos until after we've put them back into your body.'"
[Silver, Lee M. Remaking Eden: Cloning and Beyond in a Brave New World. New York: Avon Books, 1997, p. 39]
Educate yourself you dumb chit
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
It is a not alien. The uterus was designed and made for the baby. It is the world from which it originates and to which it belongs inutero.yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfort
All of a woman's reproductive organs and systems are for the purpose of producing, housing, and nurturing a baby both in and out of the womb.
The idea that a baby is an alien presence is a severe dissconnect from biological reality. I know that biological reality is taboo nowadays but it is still reality.
The closer we approach the uncertainty of life's ending the more we wish to trade all of the things we have acquired in exchange for all of the things we have lost: wealth for youth, knowledge for fresh curiosity, resignation for hope. We'd trade our wisdom for new experiences, but it is wisdom that will teach us that at the end of the road the only new experience is death.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Wtf @ “alien” dude..you are a retard. Humans can only beget another HUMAN.by your logic everything that walks on two legs is a human
lol, no ...Abortion is one of the most controversial issues discussed in medical ethics . but the medical community doesnt have a full consensus that an embryo/fetus is a living thing. The only idiots who believe so are the lgbt/feminazis/liberals ... everyone just support it for maximus attentious whorous aka attention whoring.
yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfort
you really believe this is a living human?

lol, no ...Abortion is one of the most controversial issues discussed in medical ethics . but the medical community doesnt have a full consensus that an embryo/fetus is a living thing. The only idiots who believe so are the lgbt/feminazis/liberals ... everyone just support it for maximus attentious whorous aka attention whoring.
yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfort
you really believe this is a living human?
Hole-Lee-fuk..what are you on.
Every bioethicist agrees that an unborn child is a human from conception. And a human IS a person. It is never a clump of cells.
If it was ANYTHING but a human..the woman’s body would REJECT it you fukin moron..wtf are you into some beastality or something you sick kunt?
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Originally Posted By Paul
it is not alive you stupid retard but a living organism!!! it has no soul. its a parasite that depends on another organism aka the mother for passive sustenance .Dude, you are the dumbest fukin poster here. Of course it is alive lol.
Human Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:
"Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote."
[England, Marjorie A. Life Before Birth. 2nd ed. England: Mosby-Wolfe, 1996, p.31]
-Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]
"Embryo: the developing organism from the time of fertilization until significant differentiation has occurred, when the organism becomes known as a fetus, a distinct new human/individuated emerges'
[Cloning Human Beings. Report and Recommendations of the National Bioethics Advisory Commission. Rockville, MD: GPO, 1997, Appendix-2.]
"Embryo: An organism in the earliest stage of development; in a man, from the time of conception to the end of the second month in the uterus."
[Dox, Ida G. et al. The Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary. New York: Harper Perennial, 1993, p. 146]
"Embryo: The early developing fertilized egg that is growing into another individual of the species. In man the term 'embryo' is usually restricted to the period of development from fertilization until the end of the eighth week of pregnancy."
[Walters, William and Singer, Peter (eds.). Test-Tube Babies. Melbourne: Oxford University Press, 1982, p. 160]
"The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]
"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new human life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
[Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]
"I would say that among most scientists, the word 'embryo' includes the time from after fertilization..."
[Dr. John Eppig, Senior Staff Scientist, Jackson Laboratory (Bar Harbor, Maine) and Member of the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 31]
"The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Sadler, T.W. Langman's Medical Embryology. 7th edition. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins 1995, p. 3]
"The question came up of what is an embryo, when does an embryo exist, when does it occur. I think, as you know, that in development, life is a continuum.... But I think one of the useful definitions that has come out, especially from Germany, has been the stage at which these two nuclei [from sperm and egg] come together and the membranes between the two break down."
[Jonathan Van Blerkom of University of Colorado, expert witness on human embryology before the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 63]
"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]
"The chromosomes of the oocyte and sperm are...respectively enclosed within female and malepronuclei. These pronuclei fuse with each other to produce the single, diploid, 2N nucleus of the fertilized zygote. This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero time point of embryonic development."
[Larsen, William J. Human Embryology. 2nd edition. New York: Churchill Livingstone, 1997, p. 17]
"Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity."
[O'Rahilly, Ronan and M�ller, Fabiola. Human Embryology & Teratology. 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29. This textbook lists "pre-embryo" among "discarded and replaced terms" in modern embryology, describing it as "ill-defined and inaccurate" (p. 12}]
"Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)... The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual."
[Carlson, Bruce M. Patten's Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3]
"[A]nimal biologists use the term embryo to describe the single cell stage, the two-cell stage, and all subsequent stages up until a time when recognizable humanlike limbs and facial features begin to appear between six to eight weeks after fertilization....
"[A] number of specialists working in the field of human reproduction have suggested that we stop using the word embryo to describe the developing entity that exists for the first two weeks after fertilization. In its place, they proposed the term pre-embryo....
"I'll let you in on a secret. The term pre-embryo has been embraced wholeheartedly by IVF practitioners for reasons that are political, not scientific. The new term is used to provide the illusion that there is something profoundly different between what we nonmedical biologists still call a six-day-old embryo and what we and everyone else call a sixteen-day-old embryo.
"The term pre-embryo is useful in the political arena -- where decisions are made about whether to allow early embryo (now called pre-embryo) experimentation -- as well as in the confines of a doctor's office, where it can be used to allay moral concerns that might be expressed by IVF patients. 'Don't worry,' a doctor might say, 'it's only pre-embryos that we're manipulating or freezing. They won't turn into real human embryos until after we've put them back into your body.'"
[Silver, Lee M. Remaking Eden: Cloning and Beyond in a Brave New World. New York: Avon Books, 1997, p. 39]
Educate yourself you dumb chit
Human Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:
"Development of the embryo begins at Stage 1 when a sperm fertilizes an oocyte and together they form a zygote."
[England, Marjorie A. Life Before Birth. 2nd ed. England: Mosby-Wolfe, 1996, p.31]
-Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception).
"Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being."
[Moore, Keith L. Essentials of Human Embryology. Toronto: B.C. Decker Inc, 1988, p.2]
"Embryo: the developing organism from the time of fertilization until significant differentiation has occurred, when the organism becomes known as a fetus, a distinct new human/individuated emerges'
[Cloning Human Beings. Report and Recommendations of the National Bioethics Advisory Commission. Rockville, MD: GPO, 1997, Appendix-2.]
"Embryo: An organism in the earliest stage of development; in a man, from the time of conception to the end of the second month in the uterus."
[Dox, Ida G. et al. The Harper Collins Illustrated Medical Dictionary. New York: Harper Perennial, 1993, p. 146]
"Embryo: The early developing fertilized egg that is growing into another individual of the species. In man the term 'embryo' is usually restricted to the period of development from fertilization until the end of the eighth week of pregnancy."
[Walters, William and Singer, Peter (eds.). Test-Tube Babies. Melbourne: Oxford University Press, 1982, p. 160]
"The development of a human being begins with fertilization, a process by which two highly specialized cells, the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female, unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Langman, Jan. Medical Embryology. 3rd edition. Baltimore: Williams and Wilkins, 1975, p. 3]
"Embryo: The developing individual between the union of the germ cells and the completion of the organs which characterize its body when it becomes a separate organism.... At the moment the sperm cell of the human male meets the ovum of the female and the union results in a fertilized ovum (zygote), a new human life has begun.... The term embryo covers the several stages of early development from conception to the ninth or tenth week of life."
[Considine, Douglas (ed.). Van Nostrand's Scientific Encyclopedia. 5th edition. New York: Van Nostrand Reinhold Company, 1976, p. 943]
"I would say that among most scientists, the word 'embryo' includes the time from after fertilization..."
[Dr. John Eppig, Senior Staff Scientist, Jackson Laboratory (Bar Harbor, Maine) and Member of the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 31]
"The development of a human begins with fertilization, a process by which the spermatozoon from the male and the oocyte from the female unite to give rise to a new organism, the zygote."
[Sadler, T.W. Langman's Medical Embryology. 7th edition. Baltimore: Williams & Wilkins 1995, p. 3]
"The question came up of what is an embryo, when does an embryo exist, when does it occur. I think, as you know, that in development, life is a continuum.... But I think one of the useful definitions that has come out, especially from Germany, has been the stage at which these two nuclei [from sperm and egg] come together and the membranes between the two break down."
[Jonathan Van Blerkom of University of Colorado, expert witness on human embryology before the NIH Human Embryo Research Panel -- Panel Transcript, February 2, 1994, p. 63]
"Zygote. This cell, formed by the union of an ovum and a sperm (Gr. zyg tos, yoked together), represents the beginning of a human being. The common expression 'fertilized ovum' refers to the zygote."
[Moore, Keith L. and Persaud, T.V.N. Before We Are Born: Essentials of Embryology and Birth Defects. 4th edition. Philadelphia: W.B. Saunders Company, 1993, p. 1]
"The chromosomes of the oocyte and sperm are...respectively enclosed within female and malepronuclei. These pronuclei fuse with each other to produce the single, diploid, 2N nucleus of the fertilized zygote. This moment of zygote formation may be taken as the beginning or zero time point of embryonic development."
[Larsen, William J. Human Embryology. 2nd edition. New York: Churchill Livingstone, 1997, p. 17]
"Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed.... The combination of 23 chromosomes present in each pronucleus results in 46 chromosomes in the zygote. Thus the diploid number is restored and the embryonic genome is formed. The embryo now exists as a genetic unity."
[O'Rahilly, Ronan and M�ller, Fabiola. Human Embryology & Teratology. 2nd edition. New York: Wiley-Liss, 1996, pp. 8, 29. This textbook lists "pre-embryo" among "discarded and replaced terms" in modern embryology, describing it as "ill-defined and inaccurate" (p. 12}]
"Almost all higher animals start their lives from a single cell, the fertilized ovum (zygote)... The time of fertilization represents the starting point in the life history, or ontogeny, of the individual."
[Carlson, Bruce M. Patten's Foundations of Embryology. 6th edition. New York: McGraw-Hill, 1996, p. 3]
"[A]nimal biologists use the term embryo to describe the single cell stage, the two-cell stage, and all subsequent stages up until a time when recognizable humanlike limbs and facial features begin to appear between six to eight weeks after fertilization....
"[A] number of specialists working in the field of human reproduction have suggested that we stop using the word embryo to describe the developing entity that exists for the first two weeks after fertilization. In its place, they proposed the term pre-embryo....
"I'll let you in on a secret. The term pre-embryo has been embraced wholeheartedly by IVF practitioners for reasons that are political, not scientific. The new term is used to provide the illusion that there is something profoundly different between what we nonmedical biologists still call a six-day-old embryo and what we and everyone else call a sixteen-day-old embryo.
"The term pre-embryo is useful in the political arena -- where decisions are made about whether to allow early embryo (now called pre-embryo) experimentation -- as well as in the confines of a doctor's office, where it can be used to allay moral concerns that might be expressed by IVF patients. 'Don't worry,' a doctor might say, 'it's only pre-embryos that we're manipulating or freezing. They won't turn into real human embryos until after we've put them back into your body.'"
[Silver, Lee M. Remaking Eden: Cloning and Beyond in a Brave New World. New York: Avon Books, 1997, p. 39]
Educate yourself you dumb chit
Cherish your life. Live to tell your story
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Of course it is alive you dumbchit..it has to be ALIVE IF IT IS GROWING YOU FUKIN MORON.it is not alive you stupid retard but a living organism!!! it has no soul. its a parasite that depends on another organism aka the mother for passive sustenance .
What is your level of education?
Show me a single medical or scientific journal/study that says the child in the womb is not alive.
I’ll wait
“It is not alive..but a living organism”
Repeat that to yourself outlour. Then..walk over to your bathroom mirror & ask yourself how did you become so fuking retarded.
Btw..A human organism is a person. An egg is not an organism. Sperm is not an organism. A zygote/embryo/fetus is an organism.
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Originally Posted By Paul
a normal human, not an underdeveloped tissue structureWtf @ “alien” dude..you are a retard. Humans can only beget another HUMAN.
Hole-Lee-fuk..what are you on.
Every bioethicist agrees that an unborn child is a human from conception. And a human IS a person. It is never a clump of cells.
Hole-Lee-fuk..what are you on.
Every bioethicist agrees that an unborn child is a human from conception. And a human IS a person. It is never a clump of cells.
If it was ANYTHING but a human..the woman’s body would REJECT it you fukin moron..wtf are you into some beastality or something you sick kunt?
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Originally Posted By Paul
i have an mba and a bachelor of science? you ? you dumb fukcing ignorant unlearned donkey from the movie shrek !!!Of course it is alive you dumbchit..it has to be ALIVE IF IT IS GROWING YOU FUKIN MORON.
What is your level of education?
Show me a single medical or scientific journal/study that says the child in the womb is not alive.
I’ll wait
What is your level of education?
Show me a single medical or scientific journal/study that says the child in the womb is not alive.
I’ll wait
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
By your logic human embryonic cells won't grow into humans... perhaps a cat, or a dinosaur though...by your logic everything that walks on two legs is a human
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_decline
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Societal_collapse#By_absorption
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
“It is not alive..but a living organism”i have an mba and a bachelor of science? you ? you dumb fukcing ignorant unlearned donkey from the movie shrek !!!
Repeat that to yourself outloud...Then..walk over to your bathroom mirror & ask yourself how did you become so fuking retarded.
Btw..A human organism is a person. An egg is not an organism. Sperm is not an organism. A zygote/embryo/fetus is an organism.
Dude..you are a moron.
Again..The entire Medical & Scientific Community agree human life begins at conception.
American College of Pediatricians – 2017
ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human beings being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.
-Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has made it the official policy of the United States that life begins at conception.
Show me one Medical or Scientific Journal stating different, I can reference over 100..
I'll wait.
These are the facts, as is the fact that at approximately 1.5-2 hours after conception that zygote becomes a living organism that is scientifically classified as homo-Sapiens.
Every embryology textbook; bar none, agrees that a new human life is created at conception.
Did you get a free toaster with your online school?
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Originally Posted By BulkingIsHard⏩
lol at this retard. dna know how to grow into their specific use via their built in instructions ... else you wouldve developed into part orangatang part donkey....DONKEY!By your logic human embryonic cells won't grow into humans... perhaps a cat, or a dinosaur though...
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Is the fetus in the female womb HUMAN?lol at this retard. dna know how to grow into their specific use via their built in instructions ... else you wouldve developed into part orangatang part donkey....DONKEY!
Yes or no..
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Originally Posted By Paul
ALIVE = human per the context of this thread "i know you have the iq of a dinner table but ill spoon feed it to you "“It is not alive..but a living organism”
Repeat that to yourself outloud...Then..walk over to your bathroom mirror & ask yourself how did you become so fuking retarded.
Btw..A human organism is a person. An egg is not an organism. Sperm is not an organism. A zygote/embryo/fetus is an organism.
Dude..you are a moron.
Again..The entire Medical & Scientific Community agree human life begins at conception.
American College of Pediatricians – 2017
ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human beings being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.
-Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has made it the official policy of the United States that life begins at conception.
Show me one Medical or Scientific Journal stating different, I can reference over 100..
I'll wait.
These are the facts, as is the fact that at approximately 1.5-2 hours after conception that zygote becomes a living organism that is scientifically classified as homo-Sapiens.
Every embryology textbook; bar none, agrees that a new human life is created at conception.
Did you get a free toaster with your online school?
Repeat that to yourself outloud...Then..walk over to your bathroom mirror & ask yourself how did you become so fuking retarded.
Btw..A human organism is a person. An egg is not an organism. Sperm is not an organism. A zygote/embryo/fetus is an organism.
Dude..you are a moron.
Again..The entire Medical & Scientific Community agree human life begins at conception.
American College of Pediatricians – 2017
ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human beings being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.
-Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) has made it the official policy of the United States that life begins at conception.
Show me one Medical or Scientific Journal stating different, I can reference over 100..
I'll wait.
These are the facts, as is the fact that at approximately 1.5-2 hours after conception that zygote becomes a living organism that is scientifically classified as homo-Sapiens.
Every embryology textbook; bar none, agrees that a new human life is created at conception.
Did you get a free toaster with your online school?
living organism = bacteria
^^^^ makes sense now son ?
just stop making your dumb arguments, youre stupid "srs"
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Originally Posted By Paul
are we still discussing pregnacy ? if so , yes, after ~3 month of conception, this when the ensoulment occursIs the fetus in the female womb HUMAN?
Yes or no..
Yes or no..
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Of course it is a human you dumb kunt. Hole-Lee-fuk you are truly a fukin moron.ALIVE = human per the context of this thread "i know you have the iq of a dinner table but ill spoon feed it to you "
living organism = bacteria
^^^^ makes sense now son ?
just stop making your dumb arguments, youre stupid "srs"
living organism = bacteria
^^^^ makes sense now son ?
just stop making your dumb arguments, youre stupid "srs"
It CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT HUMAN..IT IS BIOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Dude..just answer me this ONE QUESTION..how old were you when your parents told you that your birth certificate was an apology letter condom manufacturer?
Please.
Be honest
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
WRONGare we still discussing pregnacy ? if so , yes, after ~3 month of conception, this when the ensoulment occurs
Again..let’s go through the facts..American College of Pediatricians – 2017
ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human beings being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.
..at approximately 1.5-2 hours after conception that zygote becomes a living organism that is scientifically classified as homo-Sapiens.
Every embryology textbook; bar none, agrees that a new human life is created at conception.
Would you like the reference list again?
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
You're in no position to call someone low iq while claiming that an undelivered child is a parasite.ALIVE = human per the context of this thread "i know you have the iq of a dinner table but ill spoon feed it to you "
living organism = bacteria
^^^^ makes sense now son ?
just stop making your dumb arguments, youre stupid "srs"
living organism = bacteria
^^^^ makes sense now son ?
just stop making your dumb arguments, youre stupid "srs"
The female anatomy is designed for housing and nurturing both an unborn child and a born child. You cannot have a parasitical relationship with someone literally designed to produce you.
The unborn child did not invade to feed at the detriment of someone else. They were conceived in part by the willing actions of one of the persons responsible for taking care of them.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
https://quillette.com/2019/10/16/i-a...wasnt-popular/by your logic everything that walks on two legs is a human
lol, no ...Abortion is one of the most controversial issues discussed in medical ethics . but themedical community doesnt have a full consensus that an embryo/fetus is a living thing.The only idiots who believe so are the lgbt/feminazis/liberals ... everyone just support it for maximus attentious whorous aka attention whoring.
yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfort
you really believe this is a living human?

lol, no ...Abortion is one of the most controversial issues discussed in medical ethics . but themedical community doesnt have a full consensus that an embryo/fetus is a living thing.The only idiots who believe so are the lgbt/feminazis/liberals ... everyone just support it for maximus attentious whorous aka attention whoring.
yet its still regarded as an embryo , an alien ,something that cant live outside of the mothers comfort
you really believe this is a living human?
As the usable responses began to come in, I found that 5,337 biologists (96%) affirmed that a human’s life begins at fertilization, with 240 (4%) rejecting that view. The majority of the sample identified as liberal (89%), pro-choice (85%) and non-religious (63%). In the case of Americans who expressed party preference, the majority identified as Democrats (92%).
even nearly all democrat biologists agree
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Originally Posted By Paul
keep reading and pasting part of these scientifc articles... itll make you look smarter lolll... you see why i call you donkey.... and im 110% sure im not the only one who points out your donkiness :----)Of course it is a human you dumb kunt. Hole-Lee-fuk you are truly a fukin moron.
It CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT HUMAN..IT IS BIOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Dude..just answer me this ONE QUESTION..how old were you when your parents told you that your birth certificate was an apology letter condom manufacturer?
Please.
Be honest
It CANNOT BE ANYTHING BUT HUMAN..IT IS BIOLOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
Dude..just answer me this ONE QUESTION..how old were you when your parents told you that your birth certificate was an apology letter condom manufacturer?
Please.
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go read what i wrote from top to bottom to understand the context .... i really feel sorry for you retardsYou're in no position to call someone low iq whille claiming that an undelivered child is a parasite.
The female anatomy is designed for housing and nuturing both an unborn child and a born child. You cannot have a parasitical relationship with someone literally designed to produce you.
The unborn child did not invade to feed at the detriment of someone else. They were concieved in part by the willing actions of the person responsible for taking care of them.
reiterating again, go read what i wrote from top to bottom to understand the context .... i really feel sorry for you retardsThe unborn child did not invade to feed at the detriment of someone else. They were concieved in part by the willing actions of the person responsible for taking care of them.
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Study: 95 Percent of Biologists Say Life Begins at Conception
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3211703
“A sample of 5,502 biologists from 1,058 academic institutions assessed statements representing the biological view ‘a human’s life begins at fertilization’.
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https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3211703
“A sample of 5,502 biologists from 1,058 academic institutions assessed statements representing the biological view ‘a human’s life begins at fertilization’.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
All you have done is called names with nothing to back up your statements. The entire Medical & Scientific Community disagree with you..you are wrong. Face it kiddokeep reading and pasting part of these scientifc articles... itll make you look smarter lolll... you see why i call you donkey.... and im 110% sure im not the only one who points out your donkiness :----)
go read what i wrote from top to bottom to understand the context .... i really feel sorry for you retards
reiterating again, go read what i wrote from top to bottom to understand the context .... i really feel sorry for you retards
go read what i wrote from top to bottom to understand the context .... i really feel sorry for you retards
reiterating again, go read what i wrote from top to bottom to understand the context .... i really feel sorry for you retards
I gave you the definition of your argument. If you cant see how it doesnt hold up and you’re just going to repeat yourself, then theres nothing more to be said.
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Neither your context nor any scientific literature substantiates the idea that an unborn child is a parasite. That is a value judgment.go read what i wrote from top to bottom to understand the context .... i really feel sorry for you retards
I don't need to read anything else you have written to state this. A woman's biogical organs and systems are meant to produce human life.
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Originally Posted By Paul
you just gave abstracts , no proof, you just copy and paste random articles. a human is considered a human at the time of ensoulment . period.All you have done is called names with nothing to back up your statements. The entire Medical & Scientific Community disagree with you..you are wrong. Face it kiddo
I gave you the definition of your argument. If you cant see how it doesnt hold up and you’re just going to repeat yourself, then theres nothing more to be said.
I gave you the definition of your argument. If you cant see how it doesnt hold up and you’re just going to repeat yourself, then theres nothing more to be said.
and you snake flake felt butt hurt me calling you names? lol you gonna go cry to mommy now ? lolll
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Abstracts..I gave you over 50 with references for you to look up lol.you just gave abstracts , no proof, you just copy and paste random articles. a human is considered a human at the time of ensoulment . period.
and you snake flake felt butt hurt me calling you names? lol you gonna go cry to mommy now ? lolll
and you snake flake felt butt hurt me calling you names? lol you gonna go cry to mommy now ? lolll
Not to mention the study up above confirming all biologists agree..HUMAN LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.
I keep thinking you can’t get any dumber and you keep proving me wrong...
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Originally Posted By Paul
proof? you didnt give any proof . you just copy and pasted articles, studies and 0 medical trials. youre just parroting to sound smart .. but srsly man... nothing personal, you are notAbstracts..I gave you over 50 with references for you to look up lol.
Not to mention the study up above confirming all biologists agree..HUMAN LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.
I keep thinking you can’t get any dumber and you keep proving me wrong...
Not to mention the study up above confirming all biologists agree..HUMAN LIFE BEGINS AT CONCEPTION.
I keep thinking you can’t get any dumber and you keep proving me wrong...
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Dude..you think a human can beget something other than a biological human & you are calling others stupid..just lol. Bro, I’m being honest here..you are a moron, I’m sorry but it’s true..& I gave you the link..proof? you didnt give any proof . you just copy and pasted articles, studies and 0 medical trials. youre just parroting to sound smart .. but srsly man... nothing personal, you are not
Study: 95 Percent of Biologists Say Life Begins at Conception
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=3211703
Life Begins at Fertilization
The following references illustrate the fact that a new human embryo, the starting point for a human life, comes into existence with the formation of the one-celled zygote:
https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/a...yoquotes2.html
Now..where exactly are your claims backed up..?
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When Human Life Begins
American College of Pediatricians – March 2017
ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species Homo sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is one of form, not nature. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.
https://acpeds.org/position-statemen...an-life-begins
https://www.ehd.org/dev_article_unit4.php
American College of Pediatricians – March 2017
ABSTRACT: The predominance of human biological research confirms that human life begins at conception—fertilization. At fertilization, the human being emerges as a whole, genetically distinct, individuated zygotic living human organism, a member of the species Homo sapiens, needing only the proper environment in order to grow and develop. The difference between the individual in its adult stage and in its zygotic stage is one of form, not nature. This statement focuses on the scientific evidence of when an individual human life begins.
https://acpeds.org/position-statemen...an-life-begins
https://www.ehd.org/dev_article_unit4.php
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