So only grant tax credits for children to married couples. Gut the welfare system.

I personally think abortions should be legal because you're right, people are fooking retards. The problem is that the conversation isn't even around legality anymore, it's about celebration. IMO, it's straight up repulsive that a woman could be so callous as to flush out an unborn child because it's not convenient for her. Sloots should be shamed for getting doing that, but try to tell that to the average woman today and she will just spout off delusional nonsense about MY body MY choice MY life MY options, me me me me me, as if that's the alpha and omega of the entire conversation (which for her, it is of course-- a major tell about the real motives of people arguing for abortion I think).

But if you try to walk back the actual legality of abortion just one inch from "it is legal 8.99 months from conception" (even if you come at it from a completely logical position rather than a moral or emotional one), the left acts like you are advocating for the Holocaust. How do you nail down "when life begins"? Hint: you can't yet, so it's always going to be a subjective conversation at a certain level. The trimester system is a reasonable estimation in my opinion. Anything after the first trimester should be illegal and harshly punished.

It's not that complicated.

Seeing as no-one in this thread is a women I think your opinions on abortion are invalid.

You don’t know what it’s like to be pregnant and the problems that come with it.

If a women is pregnant through sexual
assault and wants to abort it then who hell are you to say otherwise? You can’t possible imagine what it’s like and this literally does not involve you in slightest.

Unless your partner gets an abortion without your consent then you really have no place to have an opinion on this subject.

So many fkn pathetic people on this forum, maybe if you guys spent less time having an opinion on everything you might actually escape your incel life

Seeing as no-one in this thread is a women I think your opinions on abortion are invalid.

You don’t know what it’s like to be pregnant and the problems that come with it.

If a women is pregnant through sexual
assault and wants to abort it then who hell are you to say otherwise? You can’t possible imagine what it’s like and this literally does not involve you in slightest.

Unless your partner gets an abortion without your consent then you really have no place to have an opinion on this subject.

So many fkn pathetic people on this forum, maybe if you guys spent less time having an opinion on everything you might actually escape your incel life

This can't be a srs post.

I'm not a murderer and I have opinions on the legality of murder. I'm not a banker and I have opinions on how the banks should be legislated. I'm not an university professor and I have ideas about how the university curriculum should look.

The amount of abortions due to rape is on the order of one-tenth of a percent. It's not a valid data point to frame the entire conversation, I'm sorry.

People have this thing called empathy and critical thinking that allows them to reasonably analyze the pros and cons of situations that they haven't personally been in.

If your the only evidence you have to support your point is the plot of the 3rd sequel in a horror video game series, your case is pretty weak.

While orphanages and foster care may have their problems, they mostly cater to older children who have been taken from bad homes or have problems. Newborns are in high demand and have a waiting list of people waiting to adopt them.

This can't be a srs post.

I'm not a murderer and I have opinions on the legality of murder. I'm not a banker and I have opinions on how the banks should be legislated. I'm not an university professor and I have ideas about how the university curriculum should look.

The amount of abortions due to rape is on the order of one-tenth of a percent. It's not a valid data point to frame the entire conversation, I'm sorry.

People have this thing called empathy and critical thinking that allows them to reasonably analyze the pros and cons of situations that they haven't personally been in.

I wasn't directing that it at you, more of the OP.

Comparing being pregnant through sexual assault to being a banker is a bit of silly comparison. Those examples you listed are quite objective, I don't think many people have an opinion on whether or not murder is okay or not as its universally seen as unacceptable but there are many people who seem to have an opinion on abortions.. Those other examples aren't very good either because we can gain a good idea from what they are like, they don't have anything to do with your biology or your physical experiences. A man can never understand what it is like to be pregnant and what it involves whereas a man can understand a job!

I understand people are allowed to have their opinions but topics like this men can't understand because they can never experience it! we can't understand what it is like but we can understand what its like to be a university professor!!

anti-abortion shouldn't even be considered a stance. Not killing something should be considered normal, and pro-abortion the ****ed up stance

brb anti-looting and pro-looting
brb anti-murder and pro-murder

Well again, the sexual assault pregnancy narrative is a LARP. Abortions for such reasons account for something on the order of 0.1% of the whole. It's not really even a topic worth debating because it's such an infrequent occurrence (and frankly, I'd bet the true figure is probably closer to 0.01% percent and 9 out 10 sloots who claim that are just deluding themselves because they know what they are doing is so callous and cruel).

But as for this absurd idea that because "no man can become pregnant" therefore "no man can comment or opine on pregnancy" is feminist garbage, I'm sorry brah. Women don't have some monopoly on the legislation of pregnancy unless they are ready to hand over a monopoly on the legislation of impregnation (i.e. I can abort my financial and parental obligations whenever I want because my semen my choice).

I think that's starting down a dangerous, nihilistic slippery slope where society just becomes a race to the bottom and a complete rejection of any form of responsibility whatsoever. Are you really arguing for that?

I wasn't directing that it at you, more of the OP.

Comparing being pregnant through sexual assault to being a banker is a bit of silly comparison. Those examples you listed are quite objective, I don't think many people have an opinion on whether or not murder is okay or not as its universally seen as unacceptable but there are many people who seem to have an opinion on abortions.. Those other examples aren't very good either because we can gain a good idea from what they are like, they don't have anything to do with your biology or your physical experiences. A man can never understand what it is like to be pregnant and what it involves whereas a man can understand a job!

Being pregnant is a very gender related experience whereas those examples you listed don't have anything to do with gender.

Yes you don't need to experience something to have an opinion on something but you do if you want to understand why

I understand people are allowed to have their opinions but topics like this men can't understand because they can never experience it! we can't understand what it is like but we can understand what its like to be a university professor!!

I don't care if being pregnant is hard, get the **** over it. You were literally put on this planet to do so. That's your reason for existing. I also don't care if the pregnancy came from a cuddle struggle. Just because you were traumatized from the experience, it doesn't you mean you should be able to kill an innocent child because you feel shameful about what happened. I was sexually assault when i was a kid, does that mean I can have an opinion? Or do i need to have a pair of tits?

Honestly, what's up with all the posts about women wanting dudes to get vasectomies in lieu of birth control?

When it comes down to it, its about both parties being responsible for their own actions and taking accountability.

Aborting is just ****ed up plain and simple. If you can't deal with the consequences of sex then shove a pineapple up your ass like the rest of us when you get that special feeling.

If you consent to sex, you consent to carrying a baby full term. It's your choice.
If you don't wanna get pregnant - don't have sex. it's pretty simple and not rocket surgery

anti-abortion shouldn't even be considered a stance.Not killing something should be considered normal, and pro-abortion the ****ed up stance

brb anti-looting and pro-looting
brb anti-murder and pro-murder

calling rape "cuddle struggle? to try to trivialize it or the psychological trauma of being forced to carry your rapist's baby is ridiculous.
go f*ck yourself you f*ggot ass piece of sh*t.

do you really think that statement is realistic? lol

you're using the term "killing babies" to try to foster an emotional response like the way a lib or woman would do. I don't consider it "killing babies" until after the midpoint of the 2nd trimester.

Doesn't matter if it is realistic. Women need to stop being whores.

you're using the term "killing babies" to try to foster an emotional response like the way a lib or woman would do. I don't consider it "killing babies" until after the midpoint of the 2nd trimester.

Seeing as no-one in this thread is a women I think your opinions on abortion are invalid.

You don’t know what it’s like to be pregnant and the problems that come with it.

If a women is pregnant through sexual
assault and wants to abort it then who hell are you to say otherwise? You can’t possible imagine what it’s like and this literally does not involve you in slightest.

Unless your partner gets an abortion without your consent then you really have no place to have an opinion on this subject.

So many fkn pathetic people on this forum, maybe if you guys spent less time having an opinion on everything you might actually escape your incel life