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post 1646681033 09-09-2021, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted By PrehistoricUFO⏩
Fukking cringe.

I refuse to believe you are real, you have to be a bot or some kind of plant.

Imagine having a life so boring you believe you're part of some crusade cause you're doing as you're told by government officials who just see you as a dollar sign.
Oh he's real. The West is abundant with soft, purposeless men who will get behind any "common goal" to feel like they're worth something.
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Originally Posted By iabs⏩
Oh he's real. The West is abundant with soft, purposeless men who will get behind any "common goal" to feel like they're worth something.
Vaccination rates in the West are much lower than in other parts of the word boyo. The UAE, Qatar, Portugal, Spain, Singapore, Uruguay, Chile, all have higher vaccination rates than any Western country.

So how exactly is this associated with Western softness/purposelessness?
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Vaccination rates in the West are much lower than in other parts of the word boyo. The UAE, Qatar, Portugal, Spain, Singapore, Uruguay, Chile, all have higher vaccination rates than any Western country.

So how exactly is this associated with Western softness/purposelessness?
Portugal and Spain are part of the west bro
post 1646682953 09-09-2021, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted By LethalGunz34⏩
It’s not over yet. Joe Chocolate Chocolate Chip will be outlining his 6-steps today to curb Covid.
What are the odds his grand plan wont grow the economy and maintain our individual liberties?
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Eh, I'm getting jabbed tomorrow. My friend is a nurse, and she said it's getting increasingly bad, and people who are in their 30's and 40's are now dying, and an overwhelming majority of them are unvaxxed. There are still a comparable number of people in the hospital who are vaxxed, but their mortality rates are far less than that of the unvaxxed. Now with a vaccine you can still get COVID, but the chances of you dying from that are miniscule compared to being unvaxxed. Underlying health issues also take a front seat in this discussion as well. If you have a health issue with a vaccine, and it doesn't work, that means you probably would of just died sooner. Also, if you are vaxxed and in the hospital, the general assumption is you will be fine and greater care is for the unvaxxed, which is in like critical levels of beds being taken and all of that. So if you were unvaxxed and somehow in the log jam of people in the hospital, you'd be pretty fukked ngl.

I was anti-vax for a long time, but after talking with her, she really put it into perspective as to how bad it can get, and now that everyone is vaxxed and is approved, I'm out of cards to play. I'm not here either to question whether you should get it or not, that's a personal decision for everyone, and I don't care nor will argue the ethics of either side.

But yeah, VaxMaxxing tomorrow, ZombieMaxxing in 5 years.
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Originally Posted By meatlog⏩
wut





Hate to make another thread on this, but is needs exposing for the hoax that it is.

Vaccine nuthuggers can't even defend its efficacy anymore, official stats just eviscerate every argument to get these shots.

Look at Israel, the most vaccinated population on the planet - sky rocketing cases, this means its working right??




Just so we're clear, in the height of the pandemic last summer, before anyone got vaccinated, we had less cases/hospitalisations/deaths......and now they're trying to convince people they need a booster?? lmao wtf is this clown world bullchit
Let me preface this by saying, I'm not a proponent of getting the vaccine for healthy individuals. First of all, these statistics showing people getting hospitalized or dying mean absolutely nothing without differentiating those who got the vaccine and those who didn't. Secondly, we're dealing with a different mutation of Covid compared to Aug. 2020 and Aug. 2021. There's no question, the Delta variant is way more virulent than the strain circulating a year ago.

I will concede that breakthrough cases are a lot more prevalent than main stream media makes it out to be.
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Originally Posted By StoliFun⏩
But who was highly transmissible delta variant?
have to somehow agree with stoli here. Its a different variant.

Also cant argue about bloodclots because covid is worse.

But the legitimate argument is the vaccine doesnt work since a requirement for vaccines is to show 50+% efficacy in 6 months, which all vaccines fail against delta. They are selling the current lineup as alpha busters which we know is vastly different.

There is also the ridiculous fact that no one knows what they are doing.. 2 doses...3 doses. now 4.. and now 2x oral meds a day. Along with Israel losing the fight shows us we need another solution. Going all in on these meds on eua are not it, especially when you get 13+x stronger protection if you keep your natural immunity

Its literally an experiment and people absolutely should be at minimum hesitant with these meds.

Also its time to look at ivermectin which actually beat the first delta wave in India.. And im not talking about the pharma funded study which gave their test subjects 24mg in 2 days when its supposed to be 200mg+ over a week. The same thing they did for HCQ on predetermined doses/combos.
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Originally Posted By OnlyHope⏩
Don't confuse corrolation with causation. The actual number of deaths vs infected have drastically dropped - every retard without a basic understanding in statistics is now an expert on vaccines. Please go
It's not because of the vaccine though, its because delta is more contagious and less severe. The vaccine literally does nothing.
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
The vaccine literally does nothing.
Then why are unvaccinated people disproportionately ending up in hospital/ICE/graves
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Originally Posted By aal04⏩
Also its time to look at ivermectin which actually beat the first delta wave in India.. And im not talking about the pharma funded study which gave their test subjects 24mg in 2 days when its supposed to be 200mg+ over a week. The same thing they did for HCQ on predetermined doses/combos.
This is the key. We need to start looking for alternative cures. The data is pretty clear that Ivermectin does something positive, and so do Monocolonal Antibody treatments.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Then why are unvaccinated people disproportionately ending up in hospital/ICE/graves
vaccines prevent serious illness/hospitalization. They don't stop the spread or create immunity....so there is no point to a mandate/passport at all.
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Then why are unvaccinated people disproportionately ending up in hospital/ICE/graves
Look at every other country, and tell me why it's only disproportionate in the USA.
Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
vaccines prevent serious illness/hospitalization. They don't stop the spread or create immunity....so there is no point to a mandate/passport at all.
Anecdotal evidence. Every passing day proves the vaccine less and less effective.
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Originally Posted By ghostfacedup⏩
vaccines prevent serious illness/hospitalization. They don't stop the spread or create immunity....so there is no point to a mandate/passport at all.
-Mandates/passports will incentivize vaccination and limit the number of people who will end up seriously ill/hospitalized
-Restricting or locking down unvaccinated people will do something to stem spread among them and limit the number of people who will end up seriously ill/hospitalized
-If lockdowns or further restrictions are required, they shouldn't be applicable to people who have done their part and are at a much lower risk of being hospitalized
Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Look at every other country, and tell me why it's only disproportionate in the USA.

Anecdotal evidence. Every passing day proves the vaccine less and less effective.
Other countries are seeing the same thing. In my province, the <30% unvaccinated adults make up 77% of hospitalizations and 89% of people in ICU beds
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Originally Posted By Reliance012⏩
It’s been known for months that one shot is considerably less effective for Delta. That goes for disease and infection. With infection one shot is like a 20% reduction while two is about 50%.

Israel is only ~ 8% higher than the US for fully vaxxed — nearly 40% of its population is not fully vaxxed. Seeing that Delta is 2-3 times more transmissible than the variants circulating this time last year, why does it surprise you that cases are so high?
whats considerably less(1st shot vs 2nd)
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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
Look at every other country, and tell me why it's only disproportionate in the USA.


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because the place is over run with fat unhealthy fcks 70%+ !
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
-Mandates/passports will incentivize vaccination and limit the number of people who will end up seriously ill/hospitalized
-Restricting or locking down unvaccinated people will do something to stem spread among them and limit the number of people who will end up seriously ill/hospitalized
-If lockdowns or further restrictions are required, they shouldn't be applicable to people who have done their part and are at a much lower risk of being hospitalized
These measures your discussing in your opinion are they permanent or temporary? If temporary at what point are they loosened?
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
-Mandates/passports will incentivize vaccination and limit the number of people who will end up seriously ill/hospitalized
-Restricting or locking down unvaccinated people will do something to stem spread among them and limit the number of people who will end up seriously ill/hospitalized
-If lockdowns or further restrictions are required, they shouldn't be applicable to people who have done their part and are at a much lower risk of being hospitalized


k, you're an idiot.
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Originally Posted By InVentive44⏩
These measures your discussing in your opinion are they permanent or temporary? If temporary at what point are they loosened?
COVID will end eventually, but I imagine you've seen the Alberta health authorities now talking about hitting vaccination percentages high enough to just limit how many people are burdening our health care system. If we can achieve that, you can be sure Kenney etc will be pushing hard af to let chit loose

It's not like they want a vaccine passport or more restrictions, hell we declared the pandemic over just a few weeks ago, but they're not gonna sit and let this overwhelm our systems and it's already headed in that direction
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Originally Posted By mp83⏩
ITT OP doesn't take into account the fact that there's more total covid cases now than there was one year ago.

This is why you should pay attention in school, kids
So not only is the vaccine useless, but social distancing and masks don't work either. Thanks for clearing that up.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
So not only is the vaccine useless, but social distancing and masks don't work either. Thanks for clearing that up.
More total cases and less deaths, but according to libs it only less deaths because of the vaccinated and not because delta is less sever.

The fact is, they are covering up that vaccinated people that get severe covid are 2-3X more likely to die. So while unvaccinated may be burdening the healthcare system more, they are not the one's dying.

https://news.yahoo.com/how-many-doub...151218361.html
More than 1,000 fully vaccinated people in England have died from the Delta variant between 1 February and 29 August, according to the latest data from Public Health England.

In this time period, 37 people under the age of 50 who had been double jabbed and 1,054 over-50s have died after testing positive for the Delta variant – now the dominant strain of the virus in the UK.

This compares to a total of 536 COVID deaths of unvaccinated people from all age grounds during that time.
The fact is, vaccination does nothing. If you are going to get severe covid and die, then you were probably going to regardless of vaccination status. The ONLY thing we should be focus on is therapeutics, by which REAL scientists and doctors have been saying from day one.

EVERYONE is going to get covid. Knowing that, let what I just said sink in.
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How long can they blame the unvaxed? I mean statistically is 25-30% not vaxed you cannot continue to blame them forever....well logically you cannot but libs disregard logic.
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Originally Posted By RonaldMcflurry⏩
So not only is the vaccine useless, but social distancing and masks don't work either. Thanks for clearing that up.
Distancing, restrictions, and lockdowns are extremely effective and you can see it in the trends relative to restrictions at each point in time

The UK started easing restrictions in March and lifted everything at the beginning of June. Cases followed loosening restrictions, but deaths remain suppressed and about three quarters of people ending up in hospital in the UK are unvaccinated
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I just went over this.

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Originally Posted By pondus_levo⏩
More total cases and less deaths, but according to libs it only less deaths because of the vaccinated and not because delta is less sever.

The fact is, they are covering up that vaccinated people that get severe covid are 2-3X more likely to die. So while unvaccinated may be burdening the healthcare system more, they are not the one's dying.

https://news.yahoo.com/how-many-doub...151218361.html



The fact is, vaccination does nothing. If you are going to get severe covid and die, then you were probably going to regardless of vaccination status. The ONLY thing we should be focus on is therapeutics, by which REAL scientists and doctors have been saying from day one.

EVERYONE is going to get covid. Knowing that, let what I just said sink in.
Are you going to post the rest of the article, starting with the sentence after your quote, that immediately contradicts everything you're proposing here?
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Distancing, restrictions, and lockdowns are extremely effective and you can see it in the trends relative to restrictions at each point in time

The UK started easing restrictions in March and lifted everything at the beginning of June. Cases followed loosening restrictions, but deaths remain suppressed and about three quarters of people ending up in hospital in the UK are unvaccinated
If we are to believe their officials that’s just completely false. He originally said 60% in the hospital were fully vaccinated. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt(despite the fact he specifically said double jabbed) you still end up with 40% of the people in the hospital there being fully vaccinated. That leaves 60% of hospitalizations as unvaccinated which isn’t close to the 75% you’re claiming.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
If we are to believe their officials that’s just completely false. He originally said 60% in the hospital were fully vaccinated. Even if you give him the benefit of the doubt(despite the fact he specifically said double jabbed) you still end up with 40% of the people in the hospital there being fully vaccinated. That leaves 60% of hospitalizations as unvaccinated which isn’t close to the 75% you’re claiming.
Three quarters is the number cited in an article I had just found via Google, Boris talking about concerns about the number of unvaccinated in hospitals


Trying to argue the vaccines don't reduce this is legit just asinine. And if 100% of people are vaccinated, 100% of people in hospital would also be vaccinated but that doesn't preclude fewer people ending up dead or in hospital because of the vaccines.
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Ask Oscar de la Hoya about how being vaccinated keeps you from hospitalization



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