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post 1646897753 09-12-2021, 03:51 PM
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Are you a believer of the fact that everything person goes through in life..

Is because of their birth genetics? Like that would include their physical appearance, their way of thinking, their way of just existing altogether which dictates their output in this planet positively or negatively?

Its as if the person has no control over any right or wrong things in their life, like even if they try to change a few things they will just return back to where they were before and their efforts to bring about a change are useless in a long term scale because they are what they were destined or born to be?
post 1646897923 09-12-2021, 03:54 PM
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A man's attitude goes some ways, the way his life will be. Is that something you agree with?
post 1646897963 09-12-2021, 03:54 PM
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No not at all
post 1646898073 09-12-2021, 03:56 PM
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80% nature, 20% nurture
post 1646898293 09-12-2021, 03:58 PM
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Does freewill exist? No. But you're contradicting yourself because you're saying said person can't change even when he tries, that's not true and defies the point. The point is some people won't even try to change because of genetics.
post 1646898333 09-12-2021, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted By BrooksKoepka⏩
A man's attitude goes some ways, the way his life will be. Is that something you agree with?
Yes, but I also think his attitude was highly determined by the way his brain was created when he was born.

Everyone would say parenting and environment played a part, but still I think brain at birth was the first thing, you can make the brain behave and think in a certain way, but you can't change its base, the base would signal the results according to its model.
post 1646898533 09-12-2021, 04:01 PM
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Baby's first dabble in philosophy?

Genetics plus your environment = how much suffering you will experience in your life.

Wait until you figure out that objective morality does not exist...
post 1646898563 09-12-2021, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Does freewill exist? No. But you're contradicting yourself because you're saying said person can't change even when he tries, that's not true and defies the point. The point is some people won't even try to change because of genetics.
Right, most people won't even try to change because of their genetics.

But everyday I hear and read people taking about depression and how certain things are not right in their lives.
post 1646898803 09-12-2021, 04:05 PM
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post 1646899243 09-12-2021, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
80% nature, 20% nurture
70% nature, 30% nurture. -ish.
Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Does freewill exist? No.But you're contradicting yourself because you're saying said person can't change even when he tries, that's not true and defies the point. The point is some people won't even try to change because of genetics.
Still can't totally wrap my head around that one. Theoretically I mostly get it, but when it comes to lived experience not so much.

If you are familiar with Sapolsky that is supposed to be the topic of his next book.



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