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post 1646971383 09-13-2021, 07:04 PM
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The unadulterated truth is most people don't have the genetics to achieve their goal

physique. even with the help of cell tech, some people just don't got it in them to have what it takes to achieve their goals.
post 1646971513 09-13-2021, 07:06 PM
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True. Work hard to hit your ceiling. The good news is the average persons body is so chit that damn near anybody can get a good body by society standards
post 1646971563 09-13-2021, 07:07 PM
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post 1646971863 09-13-2021, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By zhengterry⏩
physique. even with the help of cell tech, some people just don't got it in them to have what it takes to achieve their goals.
depends on their goal physique. most people dont have the discipline to train their body to compete on stage; i sure as hell dont. having a beach body is easily attainable.... maintaining it is the hard part
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post 1646971873 09-13-2021, 07:12 PM
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post 1646972263 09-13-2021, 07:19 PM
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Case in point,

My buddy went on sarms (rad and ostarine and mk)

Natty bulked, did p/p/l twice a week


Gained 35 lbs but has given up hope



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post 1646972273 09-13-2021, 07:19 PM
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life is too short to worry about that chit

just do whatever you want and be happy with what you got

plus, most people don't even reach their full potential anyways and choose to foodmax, alchoholmax instead of taking care of their body. Heck, that's most miscers if you think about it lol.
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post 1646972523 09-13-2021, 07:23 PM
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I don't know.

I was this 31

https://imgur.com/a/hRcw6qL

...and then this at 34

https://imgur.com/a/aNbDSDw

...and this at 37

https://imgur.com/a/wC6295S

...and this at 45

https://imgur.com/a/5afPpOG
post 1646972673 09-13-2021, 07:26 PM
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agreed brah

luckily you and I have ELITE genetics
post 1646972703 09-13-2021, 07:26 PM
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True. I'm happy maintaining around 175lbs lean at 6'1. I'll never be the shredded guy at 190-205lbs like zyzz I came to that realization a few years back.
post 1646972903 09-13-2021, 07:29 PM
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just realized Zengs physique vaguely looks like the Michelin man
post 1646972923 09-13-2021, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Unstumpable⏩
True. I'm happy maintaining around 175lbs lean at 6'1. I'll never be the shredded guy at 190-205lbs like zyzz I came to that realization a few years back.
this.
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post 1646972973 09-13-2021, 07:31 PM
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It’s true. If you are a claviclecel with poverty waist, I wouldn’t bother going for anything more than just a relatively lean athletic physique
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post 1646973203 09-13-2021, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By TonyTriangles⏩
depends on their goal physique. most people dont have the discipline to train their body to compete on stage; i sure as hell dont. having a beach body is easily attainable.... maintaining it is the hard part
I think a lot of people don’t have the discipline to just train their body.

People are whining in this thread that it’s impossible to be 6’ 190 - 205lbs ripped. Which is just ridiculous thinking. I’m 6’ and sit between 195-205lbs 12-13% bf, and I’ve only done strength programs for the past few year’s. I’m sure if I did a hypertrophy specific program I could put on 5-10lbs easy.

I’m also in my mid-30’s and natty. It just comes down to miscers not wanting to put the work in.

I didn’t feel like lifting today, but I did it anyway. Lots of miscers, just don’t even try when they don’t feel like lifting and then complain when they don’t see the results they want.
post 1646973413 09-13-2021, 07:38 PM
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I went from having a sunken in chest and 10 inch arms to pretty big naturally


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post 1646973493 09-13-2021, 07:39 PM
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lol this is what people who think gear is magic think

The reason people have insane physiques is they either have insane genetics and busted their ass off or they have gained tons of knowledge and experience over years of advanced lifting and reading/learning from experts and busted their ass off

If I do a set of squats and you do a set of squats I guarantee theres going to be massive differences in how they look. That comes from years of experience and training, not gear, not genetics.
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post 1646973663 09-13-2021, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
just realized Zengs physique vaguely looks like the Michelin man
What



Can u not see that my physique moggs 90% of dudes i see?
post 1646973673 09-13-2021, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
lol this is what people who think gear is magic think

The reason people have insane physiques is they either have insane genetics and busted their ass off or they have gained tons of knowledge and experience over years of advanced lifting and reading/learning from experts and busted their ass off

If I do a set of squats and you do a set of squats I guarantee theres going to be massive differences in how they look. That comes from years of experience and training, not gear, not genetics.
yeah and they never tried to commit to full body compound progression for a year or two either
post 1646974073 09-13-2021, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted By KingSWRV⏩
yeah and they never tried to commit to full body compound progression for a year or two either
they havnt tried to commit to anything or even believe for a second 99% of people who are ripped and jacked spent years eating very meticulously on a rigorous schedule of 90% bland boring food, missed enough gym and cardio sessions they can count it on one hand, and have spent every single night at home not drinking and going to bed at an approrpiate time.

years of that
not days
not weeks
not months
not 1 year

years

and then they got to the body they have, and then they were allowed a SMALL bit of leniency to maintain their physique and enjoy SOME food
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post 1646974163 09-13-2021, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
I went from having a sunken in chest and 10 inch arms to pretty big naturally






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Originally Posted By Jestbrah⏩
they havnt tried to commit to anything or even believe for a second 99% of people who are ripped and jacked spent years eating very meticulously on a rigorous schedule of 90% bland boring food, missed enough gym and cardio sessions they can count it on one hand, and have spent every single night at home not drinking and going to bed at an approrpiate time.

years of that
not days
not weeks
not months
not 1 year

years

and then they got to the body they have, and then they were allowed a SMALL bit of leniency to maintain their physique and enjoy SOME food
I agree with you 100%. I think many could progress to a much better level in a shorter time frame than years but they just can't do what it takes. First issue I see is people just can't commit to a cut. They do 2 or 3 weeks and give up. If you have the motivation you can go from 20%bf to 10% in about 8-12 weeks. Our boy zheng could look like a ripped Asian warlord if he did a hard 1000 cal keto deficit for 8 weeks. Why doesn't he? Why doesn't everyone? They lack discipline.

Next is most people are completely lost in the gym. They can't put their heads around a lifting routine. There is no excuse nowadays to not have good form and a good routine. There are thousands of videos online and even apps that can show a total novice how to have a good lifting routine. It's somewhat genetic but everyone can look better always. There is no ceiling unless you're missing all of your limbs. People are just undisciplined degenerates that would rather taste a fookin disgusting 3k cal piece of dough covered in cheese and drink poison than look and feel good.
post 1646976233 09-13-2021, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted By amerikansjc⏩
I agree with you 100%. I think many could progress to a much better level in a shorter time frame than years but they just can't do what it takes. First issue I see is people just can't commit to a cut. They do 2 or 3 weeks and give up. If you have the motivation you can go from 20%bf to 10% in about 8-12 weeks. Our boy zheng could look like a ripped Asian warlord if he did a hard 1000 cal keto deficit for 8 weeks. Why doesn't he? Why doesn't everyone? They lack discipline.

Next is most people are completely lost in the gym. They can't put their heads around a lifting routine. There is no excuse nowadays to not have good form and a good routine. There are thousands of videos online and even apps that can show a total novice how to have a good lifting routine. It's somewhat genetic but everyone can look better always. There is no ceiling unless you're missing all of your limbs. People are just undisciplined degenerates that would rather taste a fookin disgusting 3k cal piece of dough covered in cheese and drink poison than look and feel good.
I did keto, and while I believe it has great benefits, it was just easier to recomp regarding diet and food prep.

I was a month into lean turkey skillet until I miscooked and got food poisoning.

how I looked in a shirt before keto:




Then during Keto:

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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
I think a lot of people don’t have the discipline to just train their body.

People are whining in this thread that it’s impossible to be 6’ 190 - 205lbs ripped. Which is just ridiculous thinking. I’m 6’ and sit between 195-205lbs 12-13% bf, and I’ve only done strength programs for the past few year’s. I’m sure if I did a hypertrophy specific program I could put on 5-10lbs easy.

I’m also in my mid-30’s and natty. It just comes down to miscers not wanting to put the work in.

I didn’t feel like lifting today, but I did it anyway. Lots of miscers, just don’t even try when they don’t feel like lifting and then complain when they don’t see the results they want.
Pretty much in the same boat here. However, perhaps Terry Larper is onto something. I used to bring my twink friend with me to the gym for years and he couldn't put on a pound of muscle or make any strength gains if his life depended on it. Literally would lift the same weight time after time. It's probably a combination of poor commitment, low test, and poor response to test. I've posted this before but here I am @ 6'2 207 lb lean.

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Originally Posted By zhengterry⏩
I did keto, and while I believe it has great benefits, it was just easier to recomp regarding diet and food prep.

I was a month into lean turkey skillet until I miscooked and got food poisoning.

how I looked in a shirt before keto:




Then during Keto:

you know what I mostly ate last year? cream of rice, whey protein, eggs, chicken, and rice

you know what I mostly eat this year? cream of rice, whey protein, eggs, 96/4 ground beef, and rice

my point here is its very simple to eat right, high protein, whole food, low fat. Not keto, not carnivore, not Intermittent fasting.

Also there is no right food. I look better this year eating 96/4 ground beef than I did last year eating chicken breast, does that mean beef is better? no I just chose beef as my lean protein source as opposed to chicken. both have similar enough amino acid profiles it doesnt matter, I could have had fish, lean pork, venison, or turkey. Doesnt matter. What matters is not giving yourself 2-4 cheats every week when youre 20% bf and have no insulin sensitivity
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lol I lift once a week nowadays and do some bullchit routine with light weight, I mug 99.9% of the population. (srs)
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Most humans just aren't that strong or muscular relative to other animals. Most other animals with out weight (cheetah , orangutans, 200 lbs bear, aps,wolf, 100 lbs+ dog, chimp, female lions) are much stronger than we are. I read that Chimps are about 4X the strength of humans.(Source:https://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellne...e%20University. ) They can also run about 25 mph on average. The fastest human on record can run about 26 mph. The very fast 100+ lbs dog can run about 30 mph maximum.

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Originally Posted By zhengterry⏩
Case in point,

My buddy went on sarms (rad and ostarine and mk)

Natty bulked, did p/p/l twice a week


Gained 35 lbs but has given up hope



me gif
damn I’ve lifted ten times in the last year and I have more lean body mass than him you sure the Sarms he got are legit?
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yea i agree. without twink genetics i coudlnt get too far with skateboarding.
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Can confirm.

I got to 6'4 and 235lbs lean... still had chitty bicep insertions that bothered me.

It's nice turning 35 and realizing being the 90th percentile is easy and more than good enough for physique.
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