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Anyone else regret going to college?
Biggest regret and waste of time so far in my life srs.
I just think of where I’d be now if I had just joined the labor force at 18 and worked my way up the ranks accumulating a massive net worth by age 30.
Could have easily had another 150-200k in my portfolio before market returns compounded over 5 extra years. This is where having a financially aware parent to guide you in childhood pays off big time…had to learn all this chit on my own since the school system is basically designed to make you a lifelong wage slave.
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I just think of where I’d be now if I had just joined the labor force at 18 and worked my way up the ranks accumulating a massive net worth by age 30.
Could have easily had another 150-200k in my portfolio before market returns compounded over 5 extra years. This is where having a financially aware parent to guide you in childhood pays off big time…had to learn all this chit on my own since the school system is basically designed to make you a lifelong wage slave.
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I don’t regret it
But that’s because
a) I actually enjoyed both law and economics
b) my work financed my undergrad, graduate and professional years
First year was pretty tough though I worked full time and had more than full time course load
But that’s because
a) I actually enjoyed both law and economics
b) my work financed my undergrad, graduate and professional years
First year was pretty tough though I worked full time and had more than full time course load
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Meh. It was the best 4 years of my life. Maybe the alternative would have been even better but that’s life.
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Originally Posted By gainztrain818⏩
I'm about to go but I also entered the workforce without it. ANOTHER black pill is that 401Ks and retirement accounts are designed to keep you wage cucking.Biggest regret and waste of time so far in my life srs.
I just think of where I’d be now if I had just joined the labor force at 18 and worked my way up the ranks accumulating a massive net worth by age 30.
Could have easily had another 150-200k in my portfolio before market returns compounded over 5 extra years. This is where having a financially aware parent to guide you in childhood pays off big time…had to learn all this chit on my own since the school system is basically designed to make you a lifelong wage slave.
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I just think of where I’d be now if I had just joined the labor force at 18 and worked my way up the ranks accumulating a massive net worth by age 30.
Could have easily had another 150-200k in my portfolio before market returns compounded over 5 extra years. This is where having a financially aware parent to guide you in childhood pays off big time…had to learn all this chit on my own since the school system is basically designed to make you a lifelong wage slave.
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
Lmao, just LMAO when I overhear coworkers talking about their precious 401k’sI'm about to go but I also entered the workforce without it. ANOTHER black pill is that 401Ks and retirement accounts are designed to keep you wage cucking.
One of them had the audacity to set one up with a 1% contribution per pay period LOL….like $50/mo compounded annually …… 56k by retirement LOL.
Edit: the worst part about these plans are the investments you are allowed to buy usually have high expense ratios and subpar returns vs the indeces, so a double whammy over the long term…..and never forget congress is coming after everyone that ‘cheats’ the system and accumulates ‘too much’ money in these plans.
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
If you use your retirement savings/income as a safety net it can free you up to take on more risk in other investments/business because you know that even if it goes belly up you still have your retirement moneyI'm about to go but I also entered the workforce without it. ANOTHER black pill is that401Ks and retirement accounts are designed to keep you wage cucking.
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I don't really know anyone that regretted a STEM degree, but I know quite a few people that regretted communications degrees and political science degrees
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no regrets
could i have made the same without a degree, sure but i didnt know what the career path would look like when i was 18.
thing with highschools is all they do is sell the kids on going to college and the only advice they get is from useless guidance counselors that never had a real fuking job.
They dont have like actual accountants, engineers ect come into the schools and tell the kids how the world really works.
no regrets
could i have made the same without a degree, sure but i didnt know what the career path would look like when i was 18.
thing with highschools is all they do is sell the kids on going to college and the only advice they get is from useless guidance counselors that never had a real fuking job.
They dont have like actual accountants, engineers ect come into the schools and tell the kids how the world really works.
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Originally Posted By gainztrain818⏩
Exactly, The mental gymnastics I see people going through to justify their precious 401k is astonishing I can't hate on people for saving or trying to invest to retire or whatever because I wanna see everybody win I really feel bad because I know they won't make it but they are just to stubborn to listen the reasons you gave are pretty much the exact reason why I don't have one and why I tell other people not to NOT to mention you can't even withdraw or use your money the way you want without paying FINES which is beyond absurd IT makes ROTH and VANGUARD way more money then it will ever make you and that's part of the reason why THEY have fines so they CAN keep using your MONEY ded FOOKING srs.Lmao, just LMAO when I overhear coworkers talking about their precious 401k’s
One of them had the audacity to set one up with a 1% contribution per pay period LOL….like $50/mo compounded annually …… 56k by retirement LOL.
Edit: the worst part about these plans are the investments you are allowed to buy usually have high expense ratios and subpar returns vs the indeces, so a double whammy over the long term…..and never forget congress is coming after everyone that ‘cheats’ the system and accumulates ‘too much’ money in these plans.
One of them had the audacity to set one up with a 1% contribution per pay period LOL….like $50/mo compounded annually …… 56k by retirement LOL.
Edit: the worst part about these plans are the investments you are allowed to buy usually have high expense ratios and subpar returns vs the indeces, so a double whammy over the long term…..and never forget congress is coming after everyone that ‘cheats’ the system and accumulates ‘too much’ money in these plans.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
While that isn't wrong I just feel like it limits your upside because it will take you longer to buy properties or businesses...etc if your maxxxxing your retirement account which keeps you wage cucking.If you use your retirement savings/income as a safety net it can free you up to take on more risk in other investments/business because you know that even if it goes belly up you still have your retirement money
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I went to 3 colleges. First a university and flunked out. Then a community college to get my associates. Then a state school to get my bachelors degree. From a money standpoint it definitely wasn’t worth it. But I still had some really good times.
If I had to do it all over again I’d either major in STEM and never even think about joining a fraternity. Or I’d go to a trade school.
When you go away to college you literally have to become your own parent.
If I had to do it all over again I’d either major in STEM and never even think about joining a fraternity. Or I’d go to a trade school.
When you go away to college you literally have to become your own parent.
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Originally Posted By andrew28⏩
I'm gonna be on that community college time for my associates and it'll still cost probably close to 20k it's SICKENINGI went to 3 colleges. First a university and flunked out. Then a community college to get my associates. Then a state school to get my bachelors degree. From a money standpoint it definitely wasn’t worth it. But I still had some really good times.
If I had to do it all over again I’d either major in STEM and never even think about joining a fraternity. Or I’d go to a trade school.
When you go away to college you literally have to become your own parent.
If I had to do it all over again I’d either major in STEM and never even think about joining a fraternity. Or I’d go to a trade school.
When you go away to college you literally have to become your own parent.
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I could see back in the day when WAY less people had them and they WERE actually affordable but UNLESS you're on that doctor, lawyer, accountant time the RETURN on investment is BASICALLY non-EXISTENT with how much it costs not to mention EVERYBODY and their SISTER has a bachelors degree and EVEN masters are becoming pretty saturated you would PRACTICALLY need a PhD to actually stand out at this point. GOOD thing I am only going to advance my career and not start it DED fooking SRS.
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra⏩
That money is tied up under tax/early withdrawal rules though so it’s not necessarily liquid.If you use your retirement savings/income as a safety net it can free you up to take on more risk in other investments/business because you know that even if it goes belly up you still have your retirement money
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Originally Posted By gainztrain818⏩
you could be putting in like 25k per year in roth accounts per year that you can borrow from the principle at any time.That money is tied up under tax/early withdrawal rules though so it’s not necessarily liquid.
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
PhD can over-qualify you for some entry level roles and then basically sets you on a different career trajectory. And you have a harder time omitting your PhD because youre going to have work history gaps.I could see back in the day when WAY less people had them and they WERE actually affordable but UNLESS you're on that doctor, lawyer, accountant time the RETURN on investment is BASICALLY non-EXISTENT with how much it costs not to mention EVERYBODY and their SISTER has a bachelors degree and EVEN masters are becoming pretty saturated you would PRACTICALLY need a PhD to actually stand out at this point. GOOD thing I am only going to advance my career and not start it DED fooking SRS.
they never tell you all this until your farther along in life and already made a bunch of decisions.
all those accountantcels also picked their decisions early on, maybe even in highschool, just listening to some guidance counselor or college counselor or college website and then like 2 years into college start hearing how big 4 is the dream gig after they get out and then like by 3rd year start hearing from other interns how cucked and drained your life will be for the next 5 years if you are even competitive for them. If they knew all this at 18 they may have just been a pipe fitter or some chit.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
While this is true WHY would you wanna pay interest to use your MONEY seems PRETTY retarded to me DED fooking SRS. 25k a year into REAL investment and you'll retire with more then 1mil EASILY. I'm probably gonna be around 200mil DED fooking SRS.you could be putting in like 25k per year in roth accounts per year that you can borrow from the principle at any time.
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Originally Posted By Realclout⏩
he was talking about you have the money there allowing you to take more risk on your other investments. you can borrow from principle in the short term for no interest. its an emergency source.While this is true WHY would you wanna pay interest to use your MONEY seems PRETTY retarded to me DED fooking SRS. 25k a year into REAL investment and you'll retire with more then 1mil EASILY. I'm probably gonna be around 200mil DED fooking SRS.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Oh, Yeah. It can but I mean more so when people are saying oh once I get my masters degree I will stand out IT is not really the case anymore. Yeah, Thankfully I learned and realized this early enough STILL made some mistakes but despite being FULLY conservative I would consider one of my more PROGRESSIVE beliefs to be EDUCATION reform it astonishes ME how BAD the public system is DESIGNED.PhD can over-qualify you for some entry level roles and then basically sets you on a different career trajectory. And you have a harder time omitting your PhD because youre going to have work history gaps.
they never tell you all this until your farther along in life and already made a bunch of decisions.
all those accountantcels also picked their decisions early on, maybe even in highschool, just listening to some guidance counselor or college counselor or college website and then like 2 years into college start hearing how big 4 is the dream gig after they get out and then like by 3rd year start hearing from other interns how cucked and drained your life will be for the next 5 years if you are even competitive for them. If they knew all this at 18 they may have just been a pipe fitter or some chit.
they never tell you all this until your farther along in life and already made a bunch of decisions.
all those accountantcels also picked their decisions early on, maybe even in highschool, just listening to some guidance counselor or college counselor or college website and then like 2 years into college start hearing how big 4 is the dream gig after they get out and then like by 3rd year start hearing from other interns how cucked and drained your life will be for the next 5 years if you are even competitive for them. If they knew all this at 18 they may have just been a pipe fitter or some chit.
You're RIGHT though most people think THEIR job is going to be super IMPORTANT and rewarding because the WENT to college and HAVE a big boy degree but once they get into the work force and the ILLUSION of been super intelligent and SUCCESSFUL because you have a degree fades away and they're spending 8 hours a day doing spreadsheets I think that's when MOST people go on suicide watch and BLOW up to 300lb and just GO to bars every weekend to COPE not that you can't OVERcome that but it's going to some degree be a lot harder.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Interesting, I still can't see it being beneficial over an ACTUAL wealth creation strategy though NOBODY became a billionaire with a 401k or retired and fly private jets every week.he was talking about you have the money there allowing you to take more risk on your other investments. you can borrow from principle in the short term for no interest. its an emergency source.
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Wouldve rather done a trade and worked for myself, fuk corporate mandates
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I think the only way trades make sense is with the intention to start your own business or go into the more corporate project management side I can't UNDERSTAND how tradies work their whole life as tradies I guess then pension helps but IT is not even like they make much and it SEEMS pretty LIFE denying to go to work everyday knowing you are getting cheated BASICALLY.Wouldve rather done a trade and worked for myself, fuk corporate mandates
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Originally Posted By andrew28⏩
I went in on STEM from the get go and hated every minute of that chit….I could already picture myself early 30s, incel, working out of a shoebox lab (like my mentor was doing).I went to 3 colleges. First a university and flunked out. Then a community college to get my associates. Then a state school to get my bachelors degree. From a money standpoint it definitely wasn’t worth it. But I still had some really good times.
If I had to do it all over again I’d either major in STEM and never even think about joining a fraternity. Or I’d go to a trade school.
When you go away to college you literally have to become your own parent.
If I had to do it all over again I’d either major in STEM and never even think about joining a fraternity. Or I’d go to a trade school.
When you go away to college you literally have to become your own parent.
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Dude this is stupid to regret anything.
Just like your lie and take the lessons you've learned.
Just like your lie and take the lessons you've learned.
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Originally Posted By gainztrain818⏩
What'd you end up doing?I went in on STEM from the get go and hated every minute of that chit….I could already picture myself early 30s, incel, working out of a shoebox lab (like my mentor was doing).
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