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post 1646996743 09-14-2021, 07:10 AM
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People who do more than 3-4 exercises per gym day...

Why?

When I see guys doing dumbbell curls, then barbell curls, then machine preacher curls, its like...why? Work harder on one of the three, skip the other two, and stop wasting time.
PRs:

Squat: 672 lbs
Bench Press: 446 lbs
Deadlift: 696 lbs
Press: 265 lbs
post 1646996793 09-14-2021, 07:11 AM
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how do you like my routine?

Workout
Daily - 7 Days/Week
1. Flat Bench Dumbbell Press - 50s - 3x12
2. Standing Alternating Dumbbell Curls - 25s - 3x12
3. Flat Bench Dumbbell Flyes - 50s - 3x12
4. Pull-Ups - 3x12
5. Captain's Chair Knee Raises - 3x12
post 1646996863 09-14-2021, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
Maybe because each exercsise targets a different area of said muscle?
You should revisit physiology.
PRs:

Squat: 672 lbs
Bench Press: 446 lbs
Deadlift: 696 lbs
Press: 265 lbs
post 1646997113 09-14-2021, 07:16 AM
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bb..b..all kinds of gainz bruh
post 1646997143 09-14-2021, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted By Kratos89
Why?

When I see guys doing dumbbell curls, then barbell curls, then machine preacher curls, its like...why? Work harder on one of the three, skip the other two, and stop wasting time.
100% truth srs
Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
Maybe because each exercise targets a different area of said muscle?
i doubt it. Pretty sure "targeting" certain areas of a muscle was debunked, if I'm not mistaken. They've placed EKG on chest while people did different variations of bench press.

Your muscle activates all together. From a scale of 0-100%. Incline chest fly actually had the most chest activation
post 1646997203 09-14-2021, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
So when you bench, you just do flat bench only? No incline? No flyes etc etc? This gotta be a rollbread.
Flat bench and close grip one day, flat bench and incline another day.

No, I don't do flys lol. Poverty exercise.
PRs:

Squat: 672 lbs
Bench Press: 446 lbs
Deadlift: 696 lbs
Press: 265 lbs
post 1646997603 09-14-2021, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
And they'll target the muscle differently.
Muscles contract.
PRs:

Squat: 672 lbs
Bench Press: 446 lbs
Deadlift: 696 lbs
Press: 265 lbs
post 1646997653 09-14-2021, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
Maybe because each exercise targets a different area of said muscle?
this
post 1646997703 09-14-2021, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted By Kratos89
You should revisit physiology.
this dude has never done a john meadows program lol cringe
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post 1646997803 09-14-2021, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted By Kadoobiedo
this dude has never done a john meadows program lol cringe
RIP in peace to a legend of a guy.
PRs:

Squat: 672 lbs
Bench Press: 446 lbs
Deadlift: 696 lbs
Press: 265 lbs
post 1646997933 09-14-2021, 07:29 AM
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I do more than that but not all for one muscle group in the same day. Upper/ lower
I'm back, bitches!
post 1646998013 09-14-2021, 07:30 AM
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Volume > Variation, however variation can lead to more volume
post 1646998133 09-14-2021, 07:33 AM
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There's some exceptions imo, but overall I agree. I'm certainly not full HIT or anything, but I do definitely lean more towards the less is more philosophy when it comes to lifting (volume wise anyway, frequency wise I do train things more often than a lot of the bro scientists would recommend).
post 1646998193 09-14-2021, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX
how do you like my routine?

Workout
Daily - 7 Days/Week
1. Flat Bench Dumbbell Press - 50s - 3x12
2. Standing Alternating Dumbbell Curls - 25s - 3x12
3. Flat Bench Dumbbell Flyes - 50s - 3x12
4. Pull-Ups - 3x12
5. Captain's Chair Knee Raises - 3x12
Seems like you're missing some back and leg exercises, unless you have a second day where you do those?
post 1646998243 09-14-2021, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
Seems like you're missing some back and leg exercises, unless you have a second day where you do those?
He's 145 and wears skinny jeans...I'm pretty sure he skips leg day.
post 1646998283 09-14-2021, 07:35 AM
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Kind of agree, I just try to hit the muscle group with one exercise like 5 sets to failure that day. Then just switch up the exercise each session one day skull crushers next tri rope etcโ€ฆ
post 1646998303 09-14-2021, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted By leafs43
Volume > Variation, however variation can lead to more volume
This

Plus each exercise has a slight variation enough to target auxiliary muscles
post 1646998393 09-14-2021, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted By MetroBrah
Seems like you're missing some back and leg exercises, unless you have a second day where you do those?
pull-ups hit back. yes, no legs.
post 1646998453 09-14-2021, 07:37 AM
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because they want to and like working out?
post 1646998533 09-14-2021, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted By GordonXXX
pull-ups hit back.yes, no legs.
you workout 7 days a week and don't workout your legs at all?
post 1646998673 09-14-2021, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted By backinthegymbro
I didn't start developing outer chest (below the armpit), until i did Arnold's dumbbell flyes with a 10 inch gap at the top to keep the tension. exactly what he mentioned in his book to target that specific area.
A friend of mine also didn't see noticeable shoulder width until i taught him how to do lateral raises right.

You can't tell me a military press is the same as a lateral raise. Or a bench press the same as flyes. They're completely different movements.
And they'll target the muscle differently. But everyone's free to train as they prefer.
You are right, but I think OP is saying one does not have to do all of them in one day. Like you said, you can do military presses one day, then another day do lateral raises. Just work harder on the 1 or 2 body parts rather than incorporating a ton of nearly the same muscle group in 1 workout.

To each their own.
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post 1646999783 09-14-2021, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted By DrumsNotDead
you workout 7 days a week and don't workout your legs at all?
yeah bro.
post 1647000033 09-14-2021, 08:01 AM
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I tried switching to a less volume routine like push pull legs and I lost noticeable muscle size fast.

idk if my body needs extreme stimulation to grow/maintain but I typically do 12 - 16 sets for tris, 12 for bis, 10 - 12 for side delts. anything less and I look small
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post 1647000093 09-14-2021, 08:03 AM
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IMO 8-12 sets per muscle two times a week with a solid RPE of 8-9 with an occasional drop set to failure will activate all the optimal muscle growth you need, assuming your diet is in check.

I see a lot of guys doing way too much volume just for volumes sake and IMO they are wasting their time. I know because I was one of those guys when I was younger not realizing it was overkill and my body(not actual muscles) got beat up because of it.

The gym is one long lifetime session, not individual sessions, the sooner you realize that the healthier your body will be later in life.
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Variety is the spice of life. It would be boring AF to hit the gym and just do the same couple exercises. I do one compound lift that I put all my focus into then about 4-5 accessory lifts that I just focus on contraction and pump.


After training for 15 years a brosplit with decent volume is most enjoyable.
Originally Posted By MetroBrah
100% truth srs




i doubt it. Pretty sure "targeting" certain areas of a muscle was debunked, if I'm not mistaken. They've placed EKG on chest while people did different variations of bench press.

Your muscle activates all together. From a scale of 0-100%. Incline chest fly actually had the most chest activation
BRB every single IFBB pro & their trainers say different. Some random miscers say you only need to do 3-4 exercises in response....
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I feel weak by the 3rd exercise srs. Sometimes I can see a 4th if it's like, something simple like cable rope pushdowns, or otherwise a muscle group I didn't already hit today like a random ab exercise. Regardless, always end the workout with cardio crew.
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So OP you do what 1-2 exercise per muscle a day? I usually do push/pull day. So you do like what 4 exercises total for biceps and back?
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Originally Posted By Visel
I feel weak by the 3rd exercise srs. Soemtimes I can see a 4th if it's like, something simple like cable rope pushdowns, or otherwise a muscle group I didn't already hit today like a random ab exercise. Regardless, always end the workout with cardio crew.
That's just a result of poor conditioning. Assuming you've eaten at least 2 meals for the day with an adequate amount of carbs. Once about 2hr before training. You should be able to do way more work/volume before you are depleted. Pre-workout meal is extremely important. More so then a preworkout shake.




Back when I was training/eating more like a BBer I could hit 28-32 working sets in a day on a single muscle group. Would walk out the gym looking physically larger. Skin would be tight AF and the muscles would be full and round.


You don't get that on lower volume routines though.
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Originally Posted By guest89
That's just a result of poor conditioning. Assuming you've eaten at least 2 meals for the day with an adequate amount of carbs. Once about 2hr before training. You should be able to do way more work/volume before you are depleted. Pre-workout meal is extremely important. More so then a preworkout shake.




Back when I was training/eating more like a BBer I could hit 28-32 working sets in a day on a single muscle group. Would walk out the gym looking physically larger. Skin would be tight AF and the muscles would be full and round.


You don't get that on lower volume routines though.
You got me dead on. I don't eat before I work out. I wake up, have a coffee, maybe take a chit if I can, then go straight to the gym. No food until it's reward time for finishing the gym srs. Might try changing it up though... 2 hour before training would mean I'd have to wake up pretty early lol.
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Originally Posted By Visel
You got me dead on. I don't eat before I work out. I wake up, have a coffee, maybe take a chit if I can, then go straight to the gym. No food until it's reward time for finishing the gym srs. Might try changing it up though... 2 hour before training would mean I'd have to wake up pretty early lol.
You could eat a big/carb heavy meal right before bed and that might do the trick. Srs. Might also hit some kind of pre/intraworkout with carbs for lifting. It will definitely improve gym sessions. If your trying to build muscle its key.



People like to claim pro BBers are full of it and just get that big due to gear but its not so. Its a combination of nutrition, genetics, training and gear. Gear is a pretty small portion of the equation tbh.
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