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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
It's no longer about stopping spread of disease or protecting others, even though that's Biden's justification for the mandates. In his speech he spoke out of both sides of his mouth. It's the feds saying "you could get very sick and we know what's best for you, so get vaccinated even if you're ACTUALLY healthy (not the "healthy at any size" bullsheeit), and you must get vaccinated even if you already have the superior immunity from infection.

Strong parallels with Biden's vaccine mandates and Nixon's start to the war on drugs. Will Democrats realize they are the establishment, "the man"?
You are aware that many D's are abstaining from taking the vaxx due to historic inequality regarding vaxx trials and honesty?
It isnt all the D's.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Fck social media unless you want to get in touch with old hs classmates.
I barely use it anymore myself, but you're deflecting by picking that minor part of my post to cherry pick and comment on. And like it or not, social media wrecks people, sometimes their career for wrongthink. Back to the main point: mainstream media like CNN and MSNBC, countless websites, Fauci and others have been denigrating those that mention the vaccines are effective at preventing death but pisspoor at stopping the spread of the virus. We're the bad guys.

I think they see it as lying is okay if it convinces some more people to get vaccinated. No trust in being honest about results and studies, or natural immunity. Just character assassination and deny, deny, deny. No trust that Americans will get vaccinated if you're honest with them. But they can't hide the truth, so their lying about stopping the spread makes people MORE skeptical about the vaccines. When Fauci and the Pfizer CEO began talking about boosters a lot in March on prominent media that was the beginning of the end of the US vaccination effort.
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0 hospitalizations though

sucks they have to go through all the protocols just to protect a measly 2.2% from ending up in ICU
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Originally Posted By sabusake⏩
0 hospitalizations though

sucks they have to go through all the protocols just to protect a measly 2.2% from ending up in ICU
And this should be the issue. Not fake vaxx doesn't work newz.
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
I barely use it anymore myself, but you're deflecting by picking that minor part of my post to cherry pick and comment on. And like it or not, social media wrecks people, sometimes their career for wrongthink. Back to the main point: mainstream media like CNN and MSNBC, countless websites, Fauci and others have been denigrating those that mention the vaccines are effective at preventing death but pisspoor at stopping the spread of the virus. We're the bad guys.

I think they see it as lying is okay if it convinces some more people to get vaccinated. No trust in being honest about results and studies, or natural immunity. Just character assassination and deny, deny, deny. No trust that Americans will get vaccinated if you're honest with them. But they can't hide the truth, so their lying about stopping the spread makes people MORE skeptical about the vaccines. When Fauci and the Pfizer CEO began talking about boosters a lot in March on prominent media that was the beginning of the end of the US vaccination effort.
When a person replies to the points that **interest them most and ignores the parts of the post that are less interesting to them** personally, must it always be labeled a deflection.
Suppose
1. Part 1 is just blabbing and rambling and you don't care.
2. Suppose you are multitasking and only want to focus on 1 part.
3. Suppose you skimmed and didn't want to focus on those other parts.

We gotta stop using labels like deflection to dismiss other posters thoughts, it is really lazy and dismissive.
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
I made the exact point I was attempting to
Sillie said if everyone was vax’ed , there would,be hardly anyone in the hospital
That’s false
In fact, if we take the current vax/hospital % and apply it to the 21% unvaxxed, we would have another 15% in the hospital, so about 73% , or a reduction of 27% from current levels
I never argued they aren’t effective , I was just pointing out that the efficacy of the vaccine isn’t being reported the same in Israel as it is here
You know very well boyo that the unvaxxed in Israel skew very young. So there was little liklihood of them ending up in the hospital even if they got the Covid. It's boyos like you and me (older brahs) who benefit from the vaxx.

The fact that the young unvaxxed are getting hospitalized at a much higher rate than the older vaxxed should tell you all you need to about how powerful the vaxxes are. But against delta they do seem to wane some with time.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
And this should be the issue. Not fake vaxx doesn't work newz.
Since when did this place stop slogans and actually talk real talk?

Is it really true that in a country of 331 million we have 1 million hospital beds available? I read that and was shocked, any idea if it is true?
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Cause the efficacy of the vaccine appears to wane against the delta strain.

And who do you think make up the 20% unvaxxed in Israel? Phat old phuks or healthy young people? And they still far outnumber the fat old phuks in the hospital for Covid.

And yes, if everyone was vaxxed, no one would be in the hospital for Covid. That's exactly what I meant...SMH..SMH
It's higher than 20% unvaxxed actually. 1/3rd of Israel's population is under 14 years old, so 63% of their population is fully vaxed, 69% have one shot. In other words, basically every adult now and some teenagers. Try again.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
Since when did this place stop slogans and actually talk real talk?

Is it really true that in a country of 331 million we have 1 million hospital beds available? I read that and was shocked, any idea if it is true?
The AHA says 900k staffed hospital beds. So the million numbers seems reasonable.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
When a person replies to the points that **interest them most and ignores the parts of the post that are less interesting to them** personally, must it always be labeled a deflection.
Suppose
1. Part 1 is just blabbing and rambling and you don't care.
2. Suppose you are multitasking and only want to focus on 1 part.
3. Suppose you skimmed and didn't want to focus on those other parts.

We gotta stop using labels like deflection to dismiss other posters thoughts, it is really lazy and dismissive.
I get what you're saying. I truly do. But you also just proved my point with a longer than needed post, cherry picking a minute part instead of the meat of comment again. Seems you're overly concerned about a "reputation" than a topic being discussed.
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You guys are missing some key data about Israel.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ure-in-israel/

27.83% is age 0-14

59.76% is age 15-64

12.41% is over age 65

The unvaccinated in Israel are almost all under 12 years old.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
You know very well boyo that the unvaxxed in Israel skew very young. So there was little liklihood of them ending up in the hospital even if they got the Covid. It's boyos like you and me (older brahs) who benefit from the vaxx.

The fact that the young unvaxxed are getting hospitalized at a much higher rate than the older vaxxed should tell you all you need to about how powerful the vaxxes are. But against delta they do seem to wane some with time.
fair enough, let’s say that it only adds another 5% to the 58%
So we’re at 63% of current levels

Most older people as well
But, it is curious that the USA #s differ so much from other countries, who aren’t even near the 95+% claim the USA makes
I think the last time I saw, close to 45-50% or the uk hospitalizations were vax’ed
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
And this should be the issue. Not fake vaxx doesn't work newz.
Should be, but cases cases cases are where the goalposts were moved back to once the Delta variant became dominant in the US. You're catching up, albeit a few months late. Welcome. This is a sign the goalposts will be moved again. Seems to happen every 2-3 months.
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
fair enough, let’s say that it only adds another 5% to the 58%
So we’re at 63% of current levels

Most older people as well
But, it is curious that the USA #s differ so much from other countries, who aren’t even near the 95+% claim the USA makes
I think the last time I saw, close to 45-50% or the uk hospitalizations were vax’ed
Didn't Europe get the poverty Astrozenika vaxx? Not the Trump MRNA master race vaxx like those of us in the good ol' USof A
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Any Cliffs: of what the guy actually said? Muh guess is that he is blaming it on unvaxed polluting the pool.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Didn't Europe get the poverty Astrozenika vaxx? Not the Trump MRNA master race vaxx like those of us in the good ol' USof A
mix of that , phizer, and moderna
Isreal is almost all phizer

I don’t think either of them got the J&J

Pretty sure they were all administered around the same time

Why the large difference?
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
lots of people reporting the same

here's just the latest I came across this am

Im at work so I cant watch. But a girl at my restaurant got vaxxed and didn't tell anyone while coming back to work. 6 days after her return 12 people tested positive for it. Literally turns people into super spreader.
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Originally Posted By x-trainer
You are aware that many D's are abstaining from taking the vaxx due to historic inequality regarding vaxx trials and honesty?
It isnt all the D's.
Okay, but that has nothing to do with why I mentioned Democrats. The point was they are "the man" hippies in the 60s hated, in charge of the institutions now. It's why D's are literally book burning a lot of books from libraries, why D's are censorious, don't accept collaborative work if the group is all white people, and can't take a joke or the slightest ball busting anymore. Bill Maher's done a decent job of pointing this out.
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Its painfully obvious the residents shills only goal is to clog up threads with propaganda talking points to derail discussion of what's really happening, painfully obvious.

Same old same
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Originally Posted By 5x10⏩
mix of that , phizer, and moderna
Isreal is almost all phizer

I don’t think either of them got the J&J

Pretty sure they were all administered around the same time

Why the large difference?
Small sample size I guess? 300 hospitalized peeps ain't a whole lot.
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
lots of people reporting the same

here's just the latest I came across this am

This is crazy will look more into this. Repped
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Small sample size I guess? 300 hospitalized peeps ain't a whole lot.
its their current hospitalization %s, not a sample

Also
Amazing America can’t provide the same
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Originally Posted By miscinbro⏩
What percent of the students were vaccinated? Because if it's like 99% vaccinated then 1% making up 2.2% of the total infected is a much higher rate of infection.
That is kind of how it played out in Israel. There, about 2/3 of hospitalizations are vaccinated but the overall adult vaccination rate is something like 70-80%. So, the hospitalization rate is slightly more likely for unvaccinated and you probably want to assume that those vaccinated tend to be more at-risk to begin with (more likely to be older, sick, whatever).

... so if the argument is that the vaccine offers a little big of defense, I'm all on board.

However, if the argument is that everyone must be vaccinated, the surges are the fault of the unvaccinated and stuff like that -- well, no. Not even close. It seems to offer middling level defense at best. For someone super at risk, in that case - middling defense is better than nothing and it might make the difference between life and death.

However, for most people, particularly anyone not elderly, not sickly and not obese... more and more it's looking like it should not be nearly as heavily mandated as some are trying.
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99% of population is fully vaxxed. So that means 1% are making up 42% of hospitalizations. Jfc.
Not even close to being correct.

From August 20th:https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...ases-heres-why

78% ofeligibleIsraeli's are vaccinated.
The country jumped out ahead of all other countries on vaccines, and 78% of eligible Israelis over 12 years old are vaccinated.

But Israel has a young population, with many under the eligible age for vaccination, and about 1.1 million eligible Israelis, largely between the ages of 12 and 20, have declined to take even one dose of the vaccine.

That means only 58% of Israel's total citizenry is fully vaccinated. Experts say that's not nearly high enough.
So, I was off earlier, too. I said it was 70-80%, whoops. It's even worse and makes it almost seem pointless to get vaccinated.
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Originally Posted By SillieBazzillie⏩
Didn't Europe get the poverty Astrozenika vaxx? Not the Trump MRNA master race vaxx like those of us in the good ol' USof A
Astrozeneca is mRNA too...
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Originally Posted By Polaris⏩
Astrozeneca is mRNA too...
Trump mRNA?
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Originally Posted By Jhalf⏩
The way I see things is that the vaccines were really effective against the alpha variant in trials, and due to this, were rushed to emergency approval. Because they hadn't had time to test with different variations of the disease, as soon as they realized it wasn't as effective against delta (etc), they shift the narrative that the vaccines help against the worst symptoms/death.
Literally this. They made a very effective vaccine against alpha variant, and one basically useless against delta, or probably any other variant that emerges. Pretty much like the flu shot, only COVID is much easier spread and more contagious, thus hitting more people. They cant admit to this, so they move the goal posts.
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But how bad was the out break?

Did they get a severe reaction? Point of the vaccine is to protect against severe reaction
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Originally Posted By frankdtank20⏩
Whatever causes the most fear at any given time is where the goalposts are moved to.Trouble in panic paradise.Turns out half hospitalizedwithCovid were diagnosed with it after being admitted to the hospital for completely unrelated (cancer, psychiatric, injury, scheduled surgery) reasons.I've been saying this for over a month: a huge amount of the people caught the CoofBECAUSE they went to the hospital, not the other way around.


https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...eading/620062/


More reason for the paniccels to grab the rope:
Stories about kids being hospitalized because of Covid? Nope. Overcounted by 40-45%, and that was before Delta came along causing even more Coof tests to be irrelevant to the kids' hospital stays.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021...ercounted.html






Pretty soon we'll have to remind the paniccels how all people that die within 60 days of a positive PCR test are categorized as Covid related deaths, and are added to the Covid deaths tally. Died of cancer or died of internal bleeding after an accident, but PCR test came back positive =a dded to the Covid death tally. People die for all sorts of reasons, so if the virus's presence is say 6x higher across all the same people, roughly 6x as many people will die within 60 days of a Covid diagnosis and be counted as a Covid death, whether it was related or not.
Enlarged bolded, and underlined part an excellent observation that probably not even 100 people in America could process through their brain.

Doctors discussing how to artificially raise covid numbers to make public scared enough to vaccinate


https://www.godlikeproductions.com/f...age4907926/pg1

"The reason we are being murdered with genetic altering drugs is its slow acting and it causes your body to malfunction and destroy itself so there is a "plausible deniability" factor. Unlike most poisons which leave more evidence of being the direct cause of death."

1,151+ pages of peoples accounts of Covid-19 vaccine damage:
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