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post 1647346973 09-19-2021, 11:31 AM
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We're from the government, we wouldn't lie to you. LOL.

Flu cases in USA

2012: 34 million
2013: 30 million
2014: 30 million
2015: 24 million
2016: 29 million
2017: 45 million
2018: 36 million
2019: 38 million
2020: 1822

Just LOL.

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post 1647347023 09-19-2021, 11:32 AM
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post 1647347123 09-19-2021, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
Flu cases in USA

2012: 34 million
2013: 30 million
2014: 30 million
2015: 24 million
2016: 29 million
2017: 45 million
2018: 36 million
2019: 38 million
2020: 1822

Just LOL.

There are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, damned lies, and statistics.
hey you should be trusting the science and overlooking the fact that the annual flu cases were pawned off as covid19 infections
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post 1647347413 09-19-2021, 11:39 AM
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Cite plz? Thinking about using these numbers for something. Definitely fishy though - we usually get 50-60k deaths a year in the US just from the flu and no one ever gave a fuk
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post 1647348153 09-19-2021, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By donkeydonger⏩
Cite plz? Thinking about using these numbers for something. Definitely fishy though - we usually get 50-60k deaths a year in the US just from the flu and no one ever gave a fuk
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-flu-cases-us/

BTW, this source says 2136 for the 2020 flu season. Whether it was 1822 or 2136, the point remains the same. These are both still ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE smaller than previous years.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2783644
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post 1647348833 09-19-2021, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By donkeydonger⏩
Cite plz? Thinking about using these numbers for something. Definitely fishy though - we usually get 50-60k deaths a year in the US just from the flu and no one ever gave a fuk
I seen these numbers published as well. I think it was on the CDC website.
Canada had similar figures also.

They have said it's the face diaper that's stopping the spread of the flu. JFL.
The whole thing is a renamed flu. I've said it from the beginning.

The fact is the media has spread enough propaganda that there are paniccels that could get a flu and be tested for covid and worry themselves to death.
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post 1647348893 09-19-2021, 12:09 PM
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post 1647349163 09-19-2021, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted By multiplemiggs⏩
I seen these numbers published as well. I think it was on the CDC website.
Canada had similar figures also.

They have said it's the face diaper that's stopping the spread of the flu. JFL.
The whole thing is a renamed flu. I've said it from the beginning.

The fact is the media has spread enough propaganda that there are paniccels that could get a flu and be tested for covid and worry themselves to death.
All the things we did for COVID which didn't work and which now require us to vaccinate ourselves multiple times, somehow miraculously worked spectacularly well for the flu which spreads in the exact same way??? LOL.
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post 1647349353 09-19-2021, 12:18 PM
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I can only imagine how much miscers love Meghan Trainor, but it seems appropriate-



Government agencies lie to sway public opinion and actions.

From 2014:
Only about 15-20 per cent of people who come down with flu-like symptoms have the influenza virus -- the other 80-85 per cent actually caught rhinovirus or other germs that are indistinguishable from the true flu without laboratory tests, which are rarely done. In 2001, a year in which death certificates listed 257 Americans as having died of flu, only 18 were positively identified as true flus. The other 239 were simply assumed to be flus and most likely had few true flus among them.

"Cause-of-death statistics are based solely on the underlying cause of death [internationally defined] as 'the disease or injury which initiated the train of events leading directly to death,'" explains the National Center for Health Statistics. Because the flu was rarely an "underlying cause of death," the CDC created the sound-alike term, "influenza-associated death."
Using this new, loose definition, CDC's computer models could tally people who died of a heart ailment or other causes after having the flu. As William Thompson of the CDC's National Immunization Program admitted, influenza-associated mortality is "a statistical association ... I don't know that we would say that it's the underlying cause of death."

The CDC's decision to play up flu deaths dates back a decade, when it realized the public wasn't following its advice on the flu vaccine. During the 2003 flu season "the manufacturers were telling us that they weren't receiving a lot of orders for vaccine,"Dr. Glen Nowak, associate director for communications at CDC's National Immunization Program, told National Public Radio. "It really did look like we needed to do something to encourage people to get a flu shot."

The CDC's response was its "Seven-Step 'Recipe' for Generating Interest in, and Demand for, Flu (or any other) Vaccination," a slide show Nowak presented at the 2004 National Influenza Vaccine Summit.

Here is the "Recipe that fosters influenza vaccine interest and demand," in the truncated language that appears on his slides: "Medical experts and public health authorities [should] publicly (e.g. via media) state concern and alarm (and predict dire outcomes) - and urge influenza vaccination." This recipe, his slide show indicated, would result in "Significant media interest and attention ... in terms that motivate behavior (e.g. as 'very severe,' 'more severe than last or past years,' 'deadly')." Other emotive recommendations included fostering "the perception that many people are susceptible to a bad case of influenza" and "Visible/tangible examples of the seriousness of the illness (e.g., pictures of children, families of those affected coming forward) and people getting vaccinated (the first to motivate, the latter to reinforce)."

The CDC unabashedly decided to create a mass market for the flu vaccine by enlisting the media into panicking the public. An obedient and unquestioning media obliged by hyping the numbers, and 10 years later it is obliging still.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...-flu-cases-us/

BTW, this source says 2136 for the 2020 flu season. Whether it was 1822 or 2136, the point remains the same. These are both still ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE smaller than previous years.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2783644
That website is garbage and i don't see that number anywhere.
post 1647352463 09-19-2021, 01:10 PM
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That's just genocide, son.
post 1647355343 09-19-2021, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
That website is garbage and i don't see that number anywhere.
You're garbage.

Your mom is a slut.

Go fist yourself.
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
You're garbage.

You're mom is a slut.

Go fist yourself.
"you are mom". Strong spelling. If you post statistics which seem outrageous, you better post a good source and not some random crappy website.
post 1647356143 09-19-2021, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
"you are mom". Strong spelling. If you post statistics which seem outrageous, you better post a good source and not some random crappy website.
What are you talking about?! There is a bar graph showing the stats for the previous years in the first link and another link showing those for 2020.

If you're too retarded to read a bar graph, then you should go fist yourself too.
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ll/7088318002/

A year full of social distancing, mask wearing, hand washing and staying at home to prevent coronavirus spread rendered the 2020-2021 influenza season practically nonexistent.

Public health and clinical laboratories reported 2,038 flu cases during the season from Sept. 27, 2020, to April 24, 2021, according to theCenters for Disease Control and Prevention.The agency estimated about 38 million people were sick with the flu during the 2019-2020 season.

“It’s been an amazing year,” said Dr. John Swartzberg, a professor emeritus of infectious diseases at the University of California, Berkeley in the school of public health. “In all my years of being a flu watcher … I’ve never seen anything like this.”

that's their spin on it. social distancing, hand washing, and mask wearing somehow dropped flu cases by 30million

fkin lol
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If you doubt what OP says, you could probably google it to see its true.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
The cope involves saying the reasoning flu cases were reduced is due to the social distancing, improved hygiene, and masks...
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those flu vaccines finally worked...
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The largest comorbidity of c19 deaths is pneumonia/influenza.

50% of cases


50% of cases


50% of cases
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
What are you talking about?! There is a bar graph showing the stats for the previous years in the first link and another link showing those for 2020.

If you're too retarded to read a bar graph, then you should go fist yourself too.
Why would I believe anything on that unknown website or consider it reliable information?
Originally Posted By jonmcd46⏩
If you doubt what OP says, you could probably google it to see its true.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm
The cope involves saying the reasoning flu cases were reduced is due to the social distancing, improved hygiene, and masks...
Look opie, this is how it's done. Posting a link to an actual source.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Why would I believe anything on that unknown website or consider it reliable information?



Look opie, this is how it's done. Posting a link to an actual source.
I posted a link. You just didn't like it. That means fkc all to me. If you have a problem, pull your hands out of your pants and use the googlemachine yourself.
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So the Covid vaccine is actually a flu vaccine that works.
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Think what i hate the most about this is that it has become less about "health" and more about division.Basicquestions about vaccine efficacy/purpose just leads to emotional insults and zero facts from vaccine maximalists.

Guy tweeted "Biden said, an important part of surviving hurricane season is getting vaccinated lmao", all these people start attacking him. I'm like "Wait, how does the vaccine protect against 150mph winds???"

1 response was "When you're forced to find safety in a group shelter because you lost your home. You expose yourself to super spreader situation where you could die if you're not vaccinated". I replied "Got it. So are you also doing your part by not driving a car due to the 4million annual hospitalizations, and 45,000 deaths that happen annually?" Guy literally just deleted his tweet.

Another person said "You should be embarrassed for your stupidity". I simply responded "CDC's webpage 0.1% of my age group die from covid" to which she responded "I'm not going to listen to bull**** from a liar. Grow up and educate yourself" then she blocked me lmfaooooooooooo. u w0t??????




https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#SexAndAge





You can stand in front of most of these people with a black and white print out of statistics, taken from a printer inside the CDC Headquarters with the cold hard facts and they'll literally just "REEEEEEEEEE IDIOT!!!! REEEEEEEEE EDUCATE YOURSELF!! REEEEEEEEEE I HOPE YOU DIE!" but i thought you wanted me to be safe and take the vaccine shot?

Also CDC's website states vaccines don't stop transmission of the virus, and you can still get it. If you're under 45 and in good health, i see absolutely zero reason to be vaccinated. Over 45, and/or a little overweight? Then please go out and vaccinate yourself because you're at hightened risk of death. Absolutely no one takes that moderate stance though. It's either far right "vaccine is new world order scam" or hyper liberal "if you don't get vaccinated, you hate women, babies, jesus, and your mother". Like wtf is this world we live in now? Simple independent logical thinking SHOULD fix everything but no one does it.
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