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post 1647436753 09-20-2021, 05:20 PM
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Lmao I don't really gaf if the loser pieces of **** don't want to work. As long as they're not getting their free handouts, they can go eat **** for all I care. Fk em.

There's thousands and thousands and thousands of jobs across the nation to be had right now for anyone who wants to work.
post 1647436783 09-20-2021, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme⏩
Who are the economist that did this analysis? Are you able to provide their methodology?
Here's the Reuters article Axios references:

https://www.reuters.com/business/ami...st-2021-09-17/
post 1647436863 09-20-2021, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted By R3L3NTL3SS⏩
Lmao I don't really gaf if the loser pieces of **** don't want to work. As long as they're not getting their free handouts, they can go eat **** for all I care. Fk em.

There's thousands and thousands and thousands of jobs across the nation to be had right now for anyone who wants to work.
Now I wonder why people aren't taking them... and it has nothing to do with benefits as this thread points out.

Maybe pay more?....
post 1647437023 09-20-2021, 05:24 PM
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[QUOTE=dabbmw2002 post_id=1647436563]So the Axios article linked to a Reuters article, where you got the quote but you left out the next sentence which provided context, and the next paragraph which refutes the claim



Just lmao.


[img]https://c.tenor.com/i8SJAiowMJYAAAAC/give-up-quit.gif[img][/QUOTE]Omg... you better let Reuters know so they can update their article title!!

Btw.. who knew that ignoring the pandemic would lead to this?
post 1647437093 09-20-2021, 05:25 PM
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post 1647437373 09-20-2021, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Now I wonder why people aren't taking them... and it has nothing to do with benefits as this thread points out.

Maybe pay more?....
Again..I literally could not give a fk less. Hope they all starve.
Unforutnaly they're probably all the same losers collecting hundreds a month in food stamps too though.
post 1647437853 09-20-2021, 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
strong rebuttal. Time for a nap, Pat.
No offense, but you can't say that ending the benefits worked when it didn't.. they were put in place because of the pandemic and the pandemic wrecked those states. They go hand in hand and the end result is ending the benefits didn't help.
post 1647438173 09-20-2021, 05:42 PM
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post 1647438693 09-20-2021, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
per the Reuters article YOU quoted.
Yes I saw that when I read the article and the first hundred times you and gachase quoted it. You're still missing the point. These states ended the benefits in the middle of the pandemic claiming it would end the "help wanted" signs.. it didn't. That's the point. Not that reducing unemployment payments would get people to work... everyone knows that.
post 1647439593 09-20-2021, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Either way, states that ended the benefits did not see the job growth as states that kept them.
Nope

Not for the cumulative months the event happen.


In the chart the author that posted this article on Reuters showed misleads as well.



It definitely wasn’t as significant as people were hoping it would be.


But it was a cumulative 4.4% better in the gop states.


Monthly Eitc payment starting the same month hindered what some of the expectations were.
post 1647439743 09-20-2021, 06:11 PM
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This is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Those jobs are still vacant, regardless. Wtf is the article even trying to conclude? That we should pay people because they're going to refuse to work anyways? That's their fukking problem.

Straight up dumbest chit ever.
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post 1647439963 09-20-2021, 06:14 PM
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post 1647440373 09-20-2021, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By dabbmw2002⏩
that's really the main takeaway. Are they actually arguing paying people 750 a week to stay out homewonthinder people rejoining the workforce? Argue that the benefits are needed for other reasons but to say that they dont impact the willingness for people to join the labor force? Come on...
I don't think they're even arguing that, its even dumber. That's why I am appalled. Their point is doublespeaking back around to "we should pay people since they're going to refuse to work anyways". Its backwards logic, intentionally confusing cause and effect to usher in communism.
Boycott foodservice industry crew
post 1647440423 09-20-2021, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Here's the Reuters article Axios references:

https://www.reuters.com/business/ami...st-2021-09-17/
It’s referencing the article that references a Goldman Sachs study.

Now when you read the actual study you’ll see that yes there was a little more in the gop states.


Just not near as much as people would think and it tapered in August.


It also talked about the economic impact of the reduced artificial consumer demand given out in the states.

What oh by the way hurt inflation nationwide resulting from the states that kept it.



This study , which was overall negative towards the idea of ending unemploymebt early, reached similar conclusions.

https://files.michaelstepner.com/pan...tion-paper.pdf





On a sidenote unrelated note - our concessions to privacy are scary

Using anonymous bank transaction data and a difference-in- differences research design, we measure the effect of withdrawing pandemic UI on the financial and employment trajectories of unemployed workers in states that withdrew benefits, compared to workers with the same unemployment duration in states that retained these benefits.
Cliffs:

-States that ended federal benefits early saw larger job gains among the unemployed: Their employment jumped 4.4 percentage points relative to jobless individuals in states that kept benefits flowing


-everything else about the move ended up not working out so well from a supply side economics view
post 1647440893 09-20-2021, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Now I wonder why people aren't taking them... and it has nothing to do with benefits as this thread points out.

Maybe pay more?....
post 1647445093 09-20-2021, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Now I wonder why people aren't taking them... and it has nothing to do with benefits as this thread points out.

Maybe pay more?....
Pay more? The McDonald’s down the street has had a help wanted sign up for over a month now offering $18/hr for the weekend shifts.
If fact most of the business you drive by are offering great wages for entry level positions.
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Let them starve,

Let them writhe,

LEt them cry about how they can't afford a the new iphone,

Let them bitch and moan how they're going to be homeless even though most of the cucks live with their parents rent free.

Stop rewardin the losers and the leeches of society. They want money without hard work? Sign up as lab rats for experimental drugs and other stupid bullchit. I didn it when I was a prospectless bum with nothing else going on in my life.

Sick of these losers who want chit for nothing and the *******s who support them.

Better yet, when it comes to this chit let's make a new requirement. If you can't bench or squat or deadlift just the bar alone for a simple rep, penis or pussy regardless, you don't quality. Simple.
post 1647450063 09-20-2021, 08:59 PM
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The important thing is that some NEET didn't get a check. Tired of people getting handouts while the rest of us work and some libtard has some verbal gymnastics on why we should just be okay if some of the population wants to just chill 24/7. Fukn adult infants.
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Employers really need to pay livable wages, it's absurd. In LA I've seen tent cities increase their populations drastically. Many of them work but can't afford rent so a tent in the park is a better option.

I personally know a guy who lived in a tent in California for over a year because his job didn't pay enough.
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post 1647459233 09-21-2021, 01:35 AM
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So people that still don't have to pay rent until they are finally evicted didn't go out and get jobs huh? I am absolutely SHOCKED I tell you

Such is life for rentcels lmao

Pat just can't stop losing
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
So people that still don't have to pay rent until they are finally evicted didn't go out and get jobs huh? I am absolutely SHOCKED I tell you

Such is life for rentcels lmao

Pat just can't stop losing
Yep. On top of that all these people that will get evicted will start crying about how they have no money and will be homeless. Perhaps someone needs to ask them what they have been doing with all of their money over the last year and a half if they haven't been paying rent.
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Originally Posted By StinkholePatrol⏩
The thing is; making anything under 100k a year is poor now. 100k is the minimum benchmark.

So what’s the difference between making 40k a year and 0k a year

Roughly the same quality of life. Live in the same area of town. One requires you to cuck on everything you hold sacred while committing 40% of your entire time on earth to some CEO who is doing lines off hookers asses on his yacht.

It’s over for CEOcells and GOVcells. I will not earn a taxable wage likely ever again after these last two years And there are many like me.
This

If you can live even somewhat comfortably doing nothing or the bare minimum, why would you bother doing more
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Originally Posted By BigDeeps01⏩
So people that still don't have to pay rent until they are finally evicted didn't go out and get jobs huh? I am absolutely SHOCKED I tell you

Such is life for rentcels lmao

Pat just can't stop losing
This is a factor but don't think its the while story. There's also the monthly child credits that didn't exist before.

I also think people are just spending less because they prefer to not work if they don't have to
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Originally Posted By Latinowarrior3⏩
Employers really need to pay livable wages, it's absurd. In LA I've seen tent cities increase their populations drastically. Many of them work but can't afford rent so a tent in the park is a better option.

I personally know a guy who lived in a tent in California for over a year because his job didn't pay enough.
sorry buddy, your friend's a loser.
Carpe Diem, BABY
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
This is a factor but don't think its the while story. There's also the monthly child credits that didn't exist before.

I also think people are just spending less because they prefer to not work if they don't have to
Once their name is finally up for the eviction I wonder how quick they will start applying for jobs

Or maybe they won't, maybe they'll just go live with family or something. The mind of a poor person is something I will never understand
Originally Posted By gun-G⏩
sorry buddy, your friend's a loser.
Also this. If you can't support yourself even in California then you're a total ****ing moron and probably would be better off not part of society anyway
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