Thread: Misc Vax Experts Enter Here.
09-21-2021, 08:36 AM
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Yea this looks great! Purely coincidental timing!
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...ation-children
How is Pfizer's track record?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nogen-n1279503
Oh wow, such an amazing company! World-record breaking fraud settlements! Such a reputable entity!
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...nt-its-history
I wonder when they count you as fully vaccinated?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...accinated.html
The vaccines work so well you aren't allowed to sue or get government compensation!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covi...n-lawsuit.html
At least Canada will pay for your burial.
https://torontosun.com/news/national...roved-vaccines
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...ation-children
How is Pfizer's track record?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nogen-n1279503
Oh wow, such an amazing company! World-record breaking fraud settlements! Such a reputable entity!
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justi...nt-its-history
I wonder when they count you as fully vaccinated?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...accinated.html
The vaccines work so well you aren't allowed to sue or get government compensation!
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/covi...n-lawsuit.html
At least Canada will pay for your burial.
https://torontosun.com/news/national...roved-vaccines
09-21-2021, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
then it does not matter, you are already a slave. You will accept anything they give youAnd no, quitting/letting them fire me is not an option. I told myself from the get go that the only way I would take the jab is if it came down to that or losing my career, so here we are...
09-21-2021, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted By Devils⏩
That's one way to look at it. The way I choose to look at it is that I have a family to provide for and I will do whatever is necessary to ensure that they are taken care of. But that's not the point of this thread.then it does not matter, you are already a slave. You will accept anything they give you
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09-21-2021, 08:45 AM
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Religious exemption.
For example, my religion precludes me from self harm and I sincerely believe these vaccines are not adequately tested.
For example, my religion precludes me from self harm and I sincerely believe these vaccines are not adequately tested.
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09-21-2021, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
I'm probably just going to go with Pfizer (unless by some miracle this thing gets overturned). It has less of the vaccine "material" than Moderna, so seems like the lesser of two evils (and I'm expecting J&J's single shot isn't going to be deemed adequate for much longer).Hold me boyos. With Mein Fuhrer Biden's latest unconstitutional executive order, I have until Nov 22nd to be fully jabbed, including the post #2 jab 2 week holding period. This means I have until Oct 11 to start the Moderna protocol, or Oct 18 for Pfizer I believe. As of right now I am leaning towards the dink pill fellas, as theirs seems to be the least worst currently available option. What say you Misc, do I go with the boys with the little blue pill?
And no, quitting/letting them fire me is not an option. I told myself from the get go that the only way I would take the jab is if it came down to that or losing my career, so here we are...
And no, quitting/letting them fire me is not an option. I told myself from the get go that the only way I would take the jab is if it came down to that or losing my career, so here we are...
Originally Posted By johnnydeep1⏩
Have you ever took a rushed mRNA or Viral Vector vaccine that has no long term data available, and isn't even turning out to be very effective anyway?Stop whining. 99.9% of those vaccinated end up just fine.
Have you never took a vaccine?
Have you never took a vaccine?
09-21-2021, 09:07 AM
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I had COVID and it knocked me on my ass. I went to the ER on day THIRTEEN, and was in the hospital for two days.
I'm the far end of the bell curve for sure, but I can tell you firsthand that relatively young (39) and healthy (gym 3-4x a week plus generally active) can still get very, very sick from it.
Now that I have "natural immunity" status from the CDC for 90 days (lol), I am holding out for the Novovax. If I had to get one tomorrow, I'd get the J&J. It's NOT a traditional vaccine like some think, but it is not mRNA, is only one shot, and I know too many people who felt terrible after second shots of the mRNA vaccines.
I'm the far end of the bell curve for sure, but I can tell you firsthand that relatively young (39) and healthy (gym 3-4x a week plus generally active) can still get very, very sick from it.
Now that I have "natural immunity" status from the CDC for 90 days (lol), I am holding out for the Novovax. If I had to get one tomorrow, I'd get the J&J. It's NOT a traditional vaccine like some think, but it is not mRNA, is only one shot, and I know too many people who felt terrible after second shots of the mRNA vaccines.
Smooth Seas don't make Strong Sailors. Keep your head up.
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09-21-2021, 09:21 AM
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The last I time I looked, I think Pfizer had a slightly lower rate of complications as compared to Moderna and both were a bit lower than J&J. But, at least as far as the reported data is concerned, none of the three commonly available in the US has a particularly high rate of complications. So then it comes down to how much you trust the data and whether you think serious long term side effects are going to arise. Personally, I don't fully trust the data, but I'm also not convinced they are lying. I think skeptical is the right word to describe me. Regarding long-term side effects, I would guess they are unlikely, but prefer to make health decisions on more than a guess.
I'm not vaxxed either and I live in a conservative state and work for a small business, so I am probably in the clear for a while. If I had to get one today I would probably do Pfizer or J&J. I consider J&J mostly for the 1 shot convenience. It might lose the convenience factor soon though. Reports this morning are saying they've had good success with boosters, my guess is that soon you will need a booster with the J&J to be considered fully vaccinated.
I'm not vaxxed either and I live in a conservative state and work for a small business, so I am probably in the clear for a while. If I had to get one today I would probably do Pfizer or J&J. I consider J&J mostly for the 1 shot convenience. It might lose the convenience factor soon though. Reports this morning are saying they've had good success with boosters, my guess is that soon you will need a booster with the J&J to be considered fully vaccinated.
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09-21-2021, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
I'm about your age and maybe in the same range of physical activity. When I look at the available information, the logic part of my brain says it probably statistically better to get vaccinated. But then I start looking at all the bias in the reporting and the push to make everyone conform, and I start to get nagging doubts. They say follow the science and then they ignore natural immunity when the preponderance of evidence suggests natural immunity is superior to the vaccines in every way. Just not a very good way to build trust. I probably would have been vaccinated months ago, if I felt like I could trust the "system" to provide objective information. Force me into a decision though, and I will dig in my heels.I had COVID and it knocked me on my ass. I went to the ER on day THIRTEEN, and was in the hospital for two days.
I'm the far end of the bell curve for sure, but I can tell you firsthand that relatively young (39) and healthy (gym 3-4x a week plus generally active) can still get very, very sick from it.
Now that I have "natural immunity" status from the CDC for 90 days (lol), I am holding out for the Novovax. If I had to get one tomorrow, I'd get the J&J. It's NOT a traditional vaccine like some think, but it is not mRNA, is only one shot, and I know too many people who felt terrible after second shots of the mRNA vaccines.
I'm the far end of the bell curve for sure, but I can tell you firsthand that relatively young (39) and healthy (gym 3-4x a week plus generally active) can still get very, very sick from it.
Now that I have "natural immunity" status from the CDC for 90 days (lol), I am holding out for the Novovax. If I had to get one tomorrow, I'd get the J&J. It's NOT a traditional vaccine like some think, but it is not mRNA, is only one shot, and I know too many people who felt terrible after second shots of the mRNA vaccines.
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09-21-2021, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
Religious exemptionSo employer bullying tactics are being stepped up to the point I might need to get the jab soon to keep my position (RIP & LOL @ Me). I don't give a single solitary fukk about which one "works" better. All I care about is which one is least likely to fukk me up, short or long term. Will rape tenderly for legit advice...
Ameribrah so it has to be available/accepted here.
Ameribrah so it has to be available/accepted here.
09-21-2021, 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted By FarmersSon⏩
I am fortunate now that I have "naturally immunity" from the CDC for a while, and obviously that I actually have naturally immunity for far longer than that. But I had a far, far rougher time of it than anyone else I know, and ended up in a hospital for the first time in my life. I'm the far end of the bell curve for sure, but it could happen. Make your decision based on the info you have, I am just telling you my story.I'm about your age and maybe in the same range of physical activity. When I look at the available information, the logic part of my brain says it probably statistically better to get vaccinated. But then I start looking at all the bias in the reporting and the push to make everyone conform, and I start to get nagging doubts. They say follow the science and then they ignore natural immunity when the preponderance of evidence suggests natural immunity is superior to the vaccines in every way. Just not a very good way to build trust. I probably would have been vaccinated months ago, if I felt like I could trust the "system" to provide objective information. Force me into a decision though, and I will dig in my heels.
Like I said, I will now be waiting for the Novovax.
Smooth Seas don't make Strong Sailors. Keep your head up.
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09-21-2021, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
Lol at thinking natural immunity will help you for any vaccine mandates. Will not work for any sort of vaccine mandate.I am fortunate now that I have "naturally immunity" from the CDC for a while, and obviously that I actually have naturally immunity for far longer than that. But I had a far, far rougher time of it than anyone else I know, and ended up in a hospital for the first time in my life. I'm the far end of the bell curve for sure, but it could happen. Make your decision based on the info you have, I am just telling you my story.
Like I said, I will now be waiting for the Novovax.
Like I said, I will now be waiting for the Novovax.
09-21-2021, 11:26 AM
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Here’s a thought bribe a doctor
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