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post 1648644313 10-09-2021, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Ironface
Religion is a social construct for limiting crime and a coping mechanism for mortality

Inb4 Christian negs
Correct. But I wish I was stupid enough to believe it because the reality is much worse.

Basically the world around you is fleeting, nothing that happens in it or nothing you do matters. For example you could be the wealthiest, most powerful, most influential person in history but when you die you won't even know it. When you die, YOUR world dies meaning all your loved ones, memories, history of the planet, etc etc cease to exist.

That's why religion was invented, because the reality is not exactly motivational.
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post 1648644433 10-09-2021, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Dear lord, do some research on what is a properly basic belief, then get back to me. If you can understand what it means by a properly basic belief, then you’ll understand why your argument doesn’t make any sense.

As I’ve said before. The only logical conclusion for atheism is nihilism.

Agnostics are the ultimate cuck copers. You want to try and balance along the line as if to hedge your bets, instead of actually doing any type of study on the matter and making your decision.
All atheists are agnostics. It’s not like atheists would see God coming down from the sky and still say “nope, don’t believe in you” whereas agnostics would say “okay, I guess you are real after all”

Atheism and agnosticism are the same thing
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post 1648644463 10-09-2021, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
The only logical conclusion for atheism is nihilism.
This is the only place you're right, besides your previous post:
Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Yeah because belief in Christianity is the same as believing in Santa Claus.
10/10

But you're coming to the conclusion nihilism = bad ?

I need no savior to make me false promises. I am aware my worth is the same as grain of sand, but also the same as the entire universe put together. And I wouldn't have it any other way. Life is fascinating and I do not feel compelled to murder, steal, or destroy. All those who have believed ended up nowhere different than you or I will. Because the idea of a superior being that chooses what is better and what is worse, who is right and who is wrong, is logically impossible. I only wish you would all realize it in the end, but the sad part is it will be over and you won't even notice.
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Originally Posted By Ironface
All atheists are agnostics. It’s not like atheists would see God coming down from the sky and still say “nope, don’t believe in you” whereas agnostics would say “okay, I guess you are real after all”

Atheism and agnosticism are the same thing
All Santa Claus deniers are agnostics. It's not like you'd see a fat man in red flying at you on reindeers and still say “nope, don’t believe in you”.

post 1648644763 10-09-2021, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Dear lord, do some research on what is a properly basic belief, then get back to me. If you can understand what it means by a properly basic belief, then you’ll understand why your argument doesn’t make any sense.

As I’ve said before. The only logical conclusion for atheism is nihilism.

Agnostics are the ultimate cuck copers. You want to try and balance along the line as if to hedge your bets, instead of actually doing any type of study on the matter and making your decision.
You act as if atheists don't have emotions just like you. In the grand scheme of the universe, humans may not matter, but when it comes to our personal lives, lots of things do.

Average Christian and average atheist literally do the same things. We work, love our friends, build families, try to raise good kids, all the normal chit. The ONLY difference is that you believe in God, and atheists don't.

I used to be a Christian. I used to make an the same assumptions about atheists. They had to be X or Y because they don't believe. As a Christian, if you never consider the possibility that atheists may be right, you'll never be able to argue with them in good faith.

One thing people that used to be religious tend to find out when they realize they don't actually belive is that they're still the same person fundamentally. I didn't suddenly want to sacrifice goats and rape people, I just looked at humanity in a different way.

Atheism won't really make a lot of sense to you when you're dismissive of it by default, I know.
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Unless you're a Mormom Giga Chad that plans to ascend into Godhood there is no purpose in living.

JFL at the Christians ITT coping thinking having their playtime in heaven gives them everlasting purpose. Either become a Mormon God ruling over a galaxy or just LDAR.
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Originally Posted By Fewski
Yea? Help me out then.... because as far as I'm concerned the Bible is a fictional book - no different than Harry Potter. People believed in many gods back in the day... because they didn't know how things happened. Since then, it's been proven how things work. The rain god back in the day is no different than the almighty god.
It hasn’t been proven at all though. Science is ever changing and ´if’ we do ever get to the point we understand it’ll be far far in the future. I don’t think we’re capable of understanding it personally. I don’t pretend to know the answers, and that’s the difference between myself and an atheist. They’re so arrogant they truly believe they know God doesn’t exist based on our earthly human experience. All you have to do is look up to be humbled and realize you really don’t know anything at all. God is just as much a possibility if not more than the absence of a creator. What that creator is or how isn’t fathomable to us IMO.
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post 1648645013 10-09-2021, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted By DannStark
But you're coming to the conclusion nihilism = bad ?
Nihilism defeats itself.
post 1648645153 10-09-2021, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted By DannStark
All Santa Claus deniers are agnostics. It's not like you'd see a fat man in red flying at you on reindeers and still say “nope, don’t believe in you”.

Technically, yeah.

I don’t think Santa Claus exists either, but if he did appear, of course I’d have to admit I was wrong.
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The fool says in his heart,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, their deeds are vile;
there is no one who does good.

The Lord looks down from heaven
on all mankind
to see if there are any who understand,
any who seek God.
All have turned away, all have become corrupt;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.
- Psalm 14:1-3
post 1648645693 10-09-2021, 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted By MuscleXtreme
Dear lord, do some research on what is a properly basic belief, then get back to me. If you can understand what it means by a properly basic belief, then you’ll understand why your argument doesn’t make any sense.

As I’ve said before. The only logical conclusion for atheism is nihilism.

Agnostics are the ultimate cuck copers. You want to try and balance along the line as if to hedge your bets, instead of actually doing any type of study on the matter and making your decision.
I don't think you're ever gonna see it. That's okay, you can believe whatever you want brah. Have a good night
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Trolling atheists does seem like the Christian thing to do. Looks like OP and I will be sharing bunk beds in hell.
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Muhammad mistakenly took God and a prophet of God for a demon. This is common for evil people; they mistaken good for evil. Muslims say he was possessed by a demon, but I believe that, becuse he was a warlord and not a good person, it wasn’t that he was possessed, He just couldn’t tell the difference.

It’s the same with weak individuals, they mistaken strong individuals for evil.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Muhammad mistakenly took God and a prophet of God for a demon. This is common for evil people; they mistaken good for evil. Muslims say he was possessed by a demon, but I believe that, becuse he was a warlord and not a good person, it wasn’t that he was possessed, He just couldn’t tell the difference.

It’s the same with weak individuals, they mistaken strong individuals for evil.
Cool story bro, I worship Voldemort from Harry Potter, the only real god
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post 1648646873 10-09-2021, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan
Cool story bro, I worship Voldemort from Harry Potter, the only real god
Lol

Hey, you can’t prove he doesn’t exist
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post 1648646983 10-09-2021, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan
Cool story bro, I worship Voldemort from Harry Potter, the only real god
Actually, the Bible is a lesson in human behavior. Its reinforced by the fact that the weak elect dictators too. They don’t recognize it because they use ideological babble (“the tongue of the serpent”) like Biden and socialist leaders. Marxism is also ideological babble.
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We need to realize that Jesus Christ came to die for our sin and to pay the price for our iniquity. If He never does anything else in this life presently, that is more than enough to merit our loyalty, our affection, our devotion. If He never does another thing for me, if He never gives another blessing to me, I owe Him my life because of what He did on Calvary.
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Originally Posted By Paul
We need to realize that Jesus Christ came to die for our sin and to pay the price for our iniquity. If He never does anything else in this life presently, that is more than enough to merit our loyalty, our affection, our devotion. If He never does another thing for me, if He never gives another blessing to me, I owe Him my life because of what He did on Calvary.
What sin do I have?

So what you're saying is I can rape, pillage and do whatever I like and still go to heaven if I profess Jesus is God?
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Originally Posted By miscerForLulz
What sin do I have?

So what you're saying is I can rape, pillage and do whatever I like and still go to heaven if I profess Jesus is God?
The Bible teaches us that we are inherently evil, and history shows us the same. Without law and order, people are not inherently good. They tend to be good because the consequences outweighs the act. God‘s laws are the same thing; we act against God‘s laws, and do not follow the way of Christ, there are consequences and suffering as a result. To further emphasize this, you will not recognize that you are doing harm and causing the suffering, even the suffering you caused on yourself.

This is why we are all sinners and until you accept that, you will never truly do or be good.

From the psychological standpoint, Jung called it the “shadow“. This is the dark corners of your being. Those who understand and recognize their own shadow, can prevent themselves from being exploited and recognize how one can do harm.

If you understand that each individual is inherently evil, you would then recognize that being good is a conscientious and deliberate act that we must work at constantly.

Weak individuals deny their own inherent evil, or “shadow“. In fact, victimhood in the manifestation of it, leads to great evil because the individual thinks they are justified in those evil acts.

Again, this is how dictators get elected; a lack of self reflection on one’s own good and evil. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said that “evil doers believe that they are doing good”.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
Actually, the Bible is a lesson in human behavior. Its reinforced by the fact that the weak elect dictators too. They don’t recognize it because they use ideological babble (“the tongue of the serpent”) like Biden and socialist leaders. Marxism is also ideological babble.
All literature, including The Bible and everything wee post on Misc is ideological babble.
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Originally Posted By Kraken
The Bible teaches us that we are inherently evil, and history shows us the same. Without law and order, people are not inherently good. They tend to be good because the consequences outweighs the act. God‘s laws are the same thing; we act against God‘s laws, and do not follow the way of Christ, there are consequences and suffering as a result. To further emphasize this, you will not recognize that you are doing harm and causing the suffering, even the suffering you caused on yourself.

This is why we are all sinners and until you accept that, you will never truly do or be good.

From the psychological standpoint, Jung called it the “shadow“. This is the dark corners of your being. Those who understand and recognize their own shadow, can prevent themselves from being exploited and recognize how one can do harm.

If you understand that each individual is inherently evil, you would then recognize that being good is a conscientious and deliberate act that we must work at constantly.

Weak individuals deny their own inherent evil, or “shadow“. In fact, victimhood in the manifestation of it, leads to great evil because the individual thinks they are justified in those evil acts.

Again, this is how dictators get elected; a lack of self reflection on one’s own good and evil. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn said that “evil doers believe that they are doing good”.
Jesus wasn't a philosopher and was speaking to fishermen
Idk, tell me what sin did I do. Adam ate, I didn't.

So God created humans with a sin, so to forgive us, he kills himself.
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yeah atheism is ultra low iq
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Op the almighty high moral Christian just got his ticket to an eternity in hell by saying other humans are better off dead
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yeah atheism is ultra low iq
Because Christianity came before thought

Fuking lmao. You ever wonder how civilisations existed BEFORE Christianity?

Christianity is just stories stolen straight out of Ancient Greek and Egyptian mythology but dumbed down for idiots like you (such as taking several gods and merging it all into one).
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Originally Posted By DSTEE
Op the almighty high moral Christian just got his ticket to an eternity in hell by saying other humans are better off dead
The irony being that Christians believe in the afterlife and atheists don't. Meaning an atheist would be more enticed to stay alive because it's the only life they have whereas a Christian wouldn't care if they die because they will live on in Heaven.

As usual, OP is a.****g0t
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Originally Posted By FilsGoodMan
Because Christianity came before thought

Fuking lmao. You ever wonder how civilisations existed BEFORE Christianity?

Christianity is just stories stolen straight out of Ancient Greek and Egyptian mythology but dumbed down for idiots like you (such as taking several gods and merging it all into one).
This is false. No other religion or mythology has ever been this complete; it teaches the laws of nature (God’s law, the Father, law and order, punishing) and “the way” forward through Christ (the son, transcends the father, to become a good, moral, strong individual). It is the single, most complete, text of human behavior and the laws of nature ever written. THAT is what makes it unique. Teaches the difference between tragedy (nature) and evil (man made).

It also tells us that transgenderism is a man-made evil because it attempts to defy the laws of nature
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Originally Posted By Kraken
This is false. No other religion or mythology has ever been this complete
This is exactly the same kind of nonsense that Muslims claim about Islam.
"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."
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Nothing else realistically grounds most people.
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This is exactly the same kind of nonsense that Muslims claim about Islam.
Lol at comparing Christianity to Islam. Muhammad the warlord tyrant to the peaceful self sacrificing Christ.

Good one! Lulz
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Christianity failed hundreds of years ago when Luther was spared. He should have been executed.

Once Luther successfully turned religion into something personal between the individual and God it was all over for Christianity.

Just look at the origins of the modern concept of «Atheism». The concept as used today didn’t even exist until after the reformation. «Atheism» as a concept only makes sense if you consider religion a personal, individual thing.

Protestantism is pure cope, like a bloatlord claiming he is a bodybuilder
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