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NEW Pew Poll: 38% of Americans 25-54 are single (vs. 9% 1970)
10-21-2021, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Patriarchy is in women's best interests (srs)Just came across a discussion with Jordan Peterson that said women who want to get married in their 30s is up by 50%, but men who want to stay single is up too.
Several years ago he stated the same thing happened in Scandinavia when they attempted to push quality of outcome on to women. He tried to warn us then what we are finding out now; equality of outcome is bad.
Women are pursuing more leadership roles, and careers dominated by men, but at the same time they don’t seem to be finding as much meaning in it and are having more of a desire to pursue their roles as mothers and wives now. unfortunately, as men get pushed out of these roles typically held by men, and being “emasculated”, it’s having a negative affect on them.
Quality of outcome always leads to an undesired, unintended, and opposite effect and what it was seeking out to accomplish. This is what social constructionism does.
Ayn Rand write articles about this in the 80s. She stated that eventually women would not be happy being in certain roles and influence them to gravitate back to motherhood and marriage.
The stuff is biblical too. Say what you will, but there is a lot of truth in the Bible and not to go against “God’s will“, which are deeply embedded in our souls and being
Throughout history we see interesting patterns in women as well. If you look at careers and childbearing, comes and goes in waves. When they strive for careers, they do very well, but then there is a wave back to childbirth and motherhood. For instance, in the late 1800s women took up being professors at universities and put off motherhood. Shortly after, it was followed by a spike in childbirth.
Several years ago he stated the same thing happened in Scandinavia when they attempted to push quality of outcome on to women. He tried to warn us then what we are finding out now; equality of outcome is bad.
Women are pursuing more leadership roles, and careers dominated by men, but at the same time they don’t seem to be finding as much meaning in it and are having more of a desire to pursue their roles as mothers and wives now. unfortunately, as men get pushed out of these roles typically held by men, and being “emasculated”, it’s having a negative affect on them.
Quality of outcome always leads to an undesired, unintended, and opposite effect and what it was seeking out to accomplish. This is what social constructionism does.
Ayn Rand write articles about this in the 80s. She stated that eventually women would not be happy being in certain roles and influence them to gravitate back to motherhood and marriage.
The stuff is biblical too. Say what you will, but there is a lot of truth in the Bible and not to go against “God’s will“, which are deeply embedded in our souls and being
Throughout history we see interesting patterns in women as well. If you look at careers and childbearing, comes and goes in waves. When they strive for careers, they do very well, but then there is a wave back to childbirth and motherhood. For instance, in the late 1800s women took up being professors at universities and put off motherhood. Shortly after, it was followed by a spike in childbirth.
No one wins when you listen to women (srs). Women less happy than ever, men less happy than ever, children less happy than ever.
Caring about female opinions on how society should operate will destroy your society. Let men steer the ship (srs) Real men. not Nu-Males (who are a byproduct of gynocentric society)
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
Projecting much? Your "fears" is what cancel culture is doing exactly today. Cancel culture literally wants to destroy people financially, socially, politically and physically. Why are you not doing everything to fight them versus playing concern troll? Your mental gymnastics theories fears are what is exactly happening right now.Yes I am aware it is happening - so your solution is to go full on totalitarian mode? Execute all those who dare to speak against the government? That's what we should be fighting, not encouraging. It's EXACTLY what leftist governments trend into. We DO NOT want to end up like china and that is the pit of hell leftists are trying to drag us into.
Look at it this way - we can still discuss a lot of ****, write about whatever we want, and as long as we're not making death threats we won't end up in jail. You are advocating bullets in the brain for all of those things. You say we gave the government too much power and then in the same breath you want to emulate china. Do you even realize what you are saying?
Look at it this way - we can still discuss a lot of ****, write about whatever we want, and as long as we're not making death threats we won't end up in jail. You are advocating bullets in the brain for all of those things. You say we gave the government too much power and then in the same breath you want to emulate china. Do you even realize what you are saying?
Give me a fkn break with your "so your solution is".
You're doing what is already happening that you pretend to be so concerned about.
10-21-2021, 01:25 AM
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No society was built for this amount of single ppl. The consumption is far beyond what it should be. If this keeps up, the country will probably collapse in a couple hundred years.
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Originally Posted By BrianDaMan⏩
Completely agree.IMO you can have complete sexual liberation of women.... or you can have a strong, lasting, thriving society.
But you can't have both (srs).
Need religion as a sloot shaming mechanism, get rid of 'casual dating' culture which is just wasting time and only allow short purposeful dating leading to marriage, etc.
Basically...just go back to what worked lol.
I'm not even religious right now (so I'm a hypocrite saying this)...but the older I get, the more I realize...weNEEDreligion as a society. Even if you don't believe the scriptures, I mean just pragmatically as a code of conduct for all people in society to follow, it got the job done. It's better than the atheistic celebrity/thot worship culture we have today.
But you can't have both (srs).
Need religion as a sloot shaming mechanism, get rid of 'casual dating' culture which is just wasting time and only allow short purposeful dating leading to marriage, etc.
Basically...just go back to what worked lol.
I'm not even religious right now (so I'm a hypocrite saying this)...but the older I get, the more I realize...weNEEDreligion as a society. Even if you don't believe the scriptures, I mean just pragmatically as a code of conduct for all people in society to follow, it got the job done. It's better than the atheistic celebrity/thot worship culture we have today.
Said it many times but we need to turn back the clock, if we won't, it's simply over.
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Originally Posted By seanb1979⏩
This.Let's be real - it's mostly due to two things:
1. Video games
2. E-whoring
1. Video games
2. E-whoring
Though it's not exclusively cons, I'm sure a single tax will be introduced by current gear government to compensate for declining birthrate.
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Originally Posted By GayCumLord⏩
I'd have to disagree. Having a high end career is one of, if not the biggest goal of most dudes today.we are collapsing (SRS)
young men have no reason to get into high paying careers anymore if theres no reward (a woman thats suitable to be a wife and mother)
young men have no reason to get into high paying careers anymore if theres no reward (a woman thats suitable to be a wife and mother)
Think about it; they are essentially blackpilled and have come to the realization that their chance of settling with a decent woman are nilch, so they focus their goals on other things, like making more money and improving their lives in other ways.
I dont disagree that a man's motivation for earning is generally women-based, but more and more guys are waking up to the fact it's just not as feasible anymore., and look for other things to strive for.
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Originally Posted By xMetalocalypse⏩
Other way around.I'd have to disagree. Having a high end career is one of, if not the biggest goal of most dudes today.
Think about it; they are essentially blackpilled and have come to the realization that their chance of settling with a decent woman are nilch, so they focus their goals on other things, like making more money and improving their lives in other ways.
I dont disagree that a man's motivation for earning is generally women-based, but more and more guys are waking up to the fact it's just not as feasible anymore., and look for other things to strive for.
Think about it; they are essentially blackpilled and have come to the realization that their chance of settling with a decent woman are nilch, so they focus their goals on other things, like making more money and improving their lives in other ways.
I dont disagree that a man's motivation for earning is generally women-based, but more and more guys are waking up to the fact it's just not as feasible anymore., and look for other things to strive for.
Men don't need much, why work hard and long hours and go for a "career" if you can live on a part time job? You don't have to support a family anyway.
I mean, just watch what is happening right now. "the great resignation"
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rating/620382/
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Originally Posted By WiseOldApe⏩
Here we go again. GayOld****get talking about his ex gf that he is so supposedly over because he is now an enlightened creature.Great, so i'm not the only one who is still happily single after separating from my toxic ass ex girlfriend.
10-21-2021, 03:45 AM
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Men don't do the career thing forever. usually around the mid-30s they realize it's a plebs game and look for opportunities with more time work/life balance. The funny thing is even young kids are realizing this, I'm noticing especially around the Investment Banking game for which very few plebs get into.
American men are just losers, I can see why women are pissed. I would rather have a toxic ex and children than live by myself in some rural community. Plenty of women and sloots desperate to settle down. Even at 34-35 can still pump out two kids quickly. Yes, they have been raw dogged by chad, but I've raw dogged plenty of sloots. The relationship won't last but I'll have some kids.
Many of you think your MGTOW but your not you are MSTOW. "Men Getting Sent Their Own Way"
Go live in New York or Los Angeles for a few years, and you'll find someone who will settle down. Problem is that many guys don't settle down its too easy not too there. This is why you pay for for rent, and COL but for more intensive purposes just go live on your Kansas farm.
American men are just losers, I can see why women are pissed. I would rather have a toxic ex and children than live by myself in some rural community. Plenty of women and sloots desperate to settle down. Even at 34-35 can still pump out two kids quickly. Yes, they have been raw dogged by chad, but I've raw dogged plenty of sloots. The relationship won't last but I'll have some kids.
Many of you think your MGTOW but your not you are MSTOW. "Men Getting Sent Their Own Way"
Go live in New York or Los Angeles for a few years, and you'll find someone who will settle down. Problem is that many guys don't settle down its too easy not too there. This is why you pay for for rent, and COL but for more intensive purposes just go live on your Kansas farm.
10-21-2021, 03:57 AM
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There’s no incentive for women to relationship. They get to ride the cawk Carousell with no consequences of pregnancy, lessened std risks and most of all, no more social stigma for it. In fact, you ride that cawk queen, so empowering to take control of your sexuality I.e be a sloot.
Then 90% of the women are riding the same 10% men lol.
Miscers thinking that this is a choice by men. It’s a choice by 10% of the men. The rest are incels.
Then 90% of the women are riding the same 10% men lol.
Miscers thinking that this is a choice by men. It’s a choice by 10% of the men. The rest are incels.
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I put "single" on my taxes and other stupid paperwork but in reality I have 3+ long term gals riding my cock weekly. I'd imagine lots of people are the same as well as a crazy large amount of beta simps with no bitches in their life besides on OF
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Originally Posted By HeartlessSam⏩
Spot on here.its better to single and free... than a trapped indentured slave...
in 2021 we have soo much entertainment at hand...
its not like back in the day
where they only a radio and that was it
we dont need to get married anymore...
marriage has changed alot from before...
they would hold people accountable for their actions
now we have no fault divorce law which means
men lose so yea so **** getting married
live life how u want but if ur smart enough to know
love isnt forever
its just a cycle
u fall in love and than out of love
most men have fallen in love with 10+ women
love is not forever
than u will understand why giving your all
for a marriage is stupid
cause its bound to end
and unless ur the one cashing in
i wouldn't get married at all
in 2021 we have soo much entertainment at hand...
its not like back in the day
where they only a radio and that was it
we dont need to get married anymore...
marriage has changed alot from before...
they would hold people accountable for their actions
now we have no fault divorce law which means
men lose so yea so **** getting married
live life how u want but if ur smart enough to know
love isnt forever
its just a cycle
u fall in love and than out of love
most men have fallen in love with 10+ women
love is not forever
than u will understand why giving your all
for a marriage is stupid
cause its bound to end
and unless ur the one cashing in
i wouldn't get married at all
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Lol at all this China sh*t. The more developed China gets the more they will result to western slooting values, They are literally only a couple of years off. No amount of CCP interference can stop this. You morons seem to think that the CCP is some amazing organization, It's just garbage like all governemtn institutions.
10-21-2021, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted By ****inator⏩
Read this article yesterday.Other way around.
Men don't need much, why work hard and long hours and go for a "career" if you can live on a part time job? You don't have to support a family anyway.
I mean, just watch what is happening right now. "the great resignation"
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rating/620382/
Men don't need much, why work hard and long hours and go for a "career" if you can live on a part time job? You don't have to support a family anyway.
I mean, just watch what is happening right now. "the great resignation"
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rating/620382/
I think most guys realize that they’re not going to get filthy rich, so why work a full time job with all the headaches of bosses, office politics, commutes. They’re taking part time jobs to balance work-life. A part time job can support you if you live modest. Potentially start a side gig and try to get money from that. Actually have a better chance to get rich doing your own little side business than working a typical 8/5 with 3% pay raises each year, just lol
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More singles, but triple the number of single moms. Guess who's paying for most of those snotty kids?
Taxpayers.
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This eventually happens in every 1st world country.
why have kids and chit when there's an endless supply of more fun chit to do 24/7.
why have kids and chit when there's an endless supply of more fun chit to do 24/7.
10-21-2021, 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
Saw someone on the misc post a chart yesterday about living wages. Made me look up Florida and got the below data from 2020.This eventually happens in every 1st world country.
why have kids and chit when there's an endless supply of more fun chit to do 24/7.
why have kids and chit when there's an endless supply of more fun chit to do 24/7.
Notice how the "living" wage for 1 adult 0 children is $14.82, which is really close to 2 adults 0 children (both working) at $11.99. Thought that was kinda fascinating. You'd think it'd be nearly split in half, but that's not the case at all. One of the main benefits of 2 adults 0 children (DINK - Dual Income No Kids) is to split CoL expenses, yet the data shows it's not as much of a gain as you would think statistically.
The rest of the data is generally interesting as well. Kids and housewives really add up.
10-21-2021, 08:29 AM
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are you guys seeing this with your friend groups? how many of your friends are single compare to married? none of my friends are married and i'm 29.... this is like 10 close friends fyi
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Originally Posted By ontclone⏩
my 40+ friends are married.are you guys seeing this with your friend groups? how many of your friends are single compare to married? none of my friends are married and i'm 29.... this is like 10 close friends fyi
seems like a 50/50 mix of married/unmarried
DEFINITELY more people not having kids than I would ever imagine.
even my friends with kids only have 1 kid, and don't want more.
If a girl is 27, and has 2 or 3 kids, THAT is unusual now.
10-21-2021, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By ontclone⏩
Some acquaintances (former roommates) whom I don't really consider friends or keep up with are married or engaged, srs.are you guys seeing this with your friend groups? how many of your friends are single compare to married? none of my friends are married and i'm 29.... this is like 10 close friends fyi
My actual friends though are either single or in a LTR.
Know a coworker about my age who recently got married.
I'm 26 btw.
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10-21-2021, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
My cohort of relatives, friends and acquaintances is 40+.my 40+ friends are married.
seems like a 50/50 mix of married/unmarried
DEFINITELY more people not having kids than I would ever imagine.
even my friends with kids only have 1 kid, and don't want more.
If a girl is 27, and has 2 or 3 kids, THAT is unusual now.
seems like a 50/50 mix of married/unmarried
DEFINITELY more people not having kids than I would ever imagine.
even my friends with kids only have 1 kid, and don't want more.
If a girl is 27, and has 2 or 3 kids, THAT is unusual now.
I would guesstimate at least half are either never married or DINK. Of those who have children most have only one and a couple have two.
Maybe just me: I know of two different instances of people having one child in a first marriage and then one child in a second marriage.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks⏩
This brings up another good point. There would be a lot more couples and nuclear families if women kept up with their chastity. There used to be a time when women insisted on no sex before marriage. These days every woman gives it away with little to no commitment from the guy -- or thinking they can bargain a commitment out of him if they give him sex. lol. Men don't stick around if women give them no reason to.My friends and family are all married with kids but they are all 40’s and up.
The early to mid 20’s guys I talk to have no interest in settling down with girls or even just getting a gf. They like being single and casual sex or casual dating. Sometimes they get a gf but it just lasts a few months. They are not srs about settling down at all yet.
The early to mid 20’s guys I talk to have no interest in settling down with girls or even just getting a gf. They like being single and casual sex or casual dating. Sometimes they get a gf but it just lasts a few months. They are not srs about settling down at all yet.
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Originally Posted By Spazzzzy⏩
This. It'd be nice if we could see how many are actually in relationships living together. I bet it's still 85% with only 15% as truly single.It's not "single" as such though is it. It simply means not married or defacto.
This is an obvious outcome of modern society. People are getting married later and divorced more frequently, so of course the "not living with partner" stat will increase.
This is an obvious outcome of modern society. People are getting married later and divorced more frequently, so of course the "not living with partner" stat will increase.
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This. It'd be nice if we could see how many are actually in relationships living together. I bet it's still 85% with only 15% as truly single.
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
It's nearly a 25% increase for the single adult bro. You're not going to get a 50% cut in costs, that would basically be equivalent to 1 adult 0 children cost divided by 2. The extra person is still going to have costs. 25% cut is pretty good if you ask me. Imagine your expenses as a single bro are 50k. Now imagine all of sudden they're $37,500 (25% reduction).... you telling me that's not a big difference? LMAOSaw someone on the misc post a chart yesterday about living wages. Made me look up Florida and got the below data from 2020.
Notice how the "living" wage for 1 adult 0 children is $14.82, which is really close to 2 adults 0 children (both working) at $11.99. Thought that was kinda fascinating. You'd think it'd be nearly split in half, but that's not the case at all. One of the main benefits of 2 adults 0 children (DINK - Dual Income No Kids) is to split CoL expenses,yet the data shows it's not as much of a gain as you would think statistically.
The rest of the data is generally interesting as well. Kids and housewives really add up.
Notice how the "living" wage for 1 adult 0 children is $14.82, which is really close to 2 adults 0 children (both working) at $11.99. Thought that was kinda fascinating. You'd think it'd be nearly split in half, but that's not the case at all. One of the main benefits of 2 adults 0 children (DINK - Dual Income No Kids) is to split CoL expenses,yet the data shows it's not as much of a gain as you would think statistically.
The rest of the data is generally interesting as well. Kids and housewives really add up.
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10-21-2021, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted By ontclone⏩
All my friends are getting married/ in LTRs they are miserable withare you guys seeing this with your friend groups? how many of your friends are single compare to married? none of my friends are married and i'm 29.... this is like 10 close friends fyi
10-21-2021, 09:15 PM
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the only winners here are the top %10 of men and a very small minority of women that figured it out and used their "preserved value ie not being ran through" to lock down a %10er while they are somewhat young.
10-21-2021, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted By goonsondeck⏩
AND prospective immigrants, as mass immigration is inevitable to cover the low birth rate deficit.the only winners here are the top %10 of men and a very small minority of women that figured it out and used their "preserved value ie not being ran through" to lock down a %10er while they are somewhat young.
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