Can they calculate the increased deaths from economic contraction and sedentary lifestyles?

Yeah, the article appears to be an interpretation and opinion rather than fact.

"Italy's Dept. of Health quietly revises COVID death toll down from 130,468 to 3783."

The referenced report still says 130k

"The present report describes the characteristics of 130,468 SARS-CoV-2 patients dying in Italy from the beginning of the surveillance to the 5th October 2021, as reported by the Integrated Covid-19 Surveillance System coordinated by the National Institute of Health-ISS."

That's from Oct 5, 2021. Is there a more recent one?

It's an editorial based on the ISS admitting that 97.1% of deaths marked as COVID deaths had 1 or more comorbidities. Fully 67% had 3 or more comorbidities.

I don't think the CDC has broken down supposed US deaths this clearly. If so, I'd like to see what our numbers are. I expect the same sort of chicanery, TBH.

Remember, every day until the election, CNN/ABC/CBS/NBC/etc. were running daily cumulative totals of deaths from COVID, never once breaking that number into how many had 1- or 2- or 3- or 4-comorbidities.

Learned something knew then didn’t you?

Phuking *******

Dunno.

I thought this thread was about an editorial stating the Italian Ministry of Health revised the number of covid deaths, with no evidence.

I linked the main site, data, and reports to which the editorial referred in case anyone wants to see the actual sources rather than take a journalist at their word.

I asked if anyone found a more recent report. Did you find one?

And that is the difference between raw data and processes data.

“Science is a process” I keep hearing, but from economics to psychology, from biology to sociology, each has a process of breaking down statistics in to useable data that has value. If you aren’t taught those processes, numbers mean nothing. Its one of the most crucial part, but most often neglected among those not educated in them.

Not sure if it has changed, but a year ago they reported only 6% of deaths were from the virus alone. All the rest had an average of 3 comorbidities, and I feel like the comorbidities went up to 5 earlier this year. Dementia, diabetes, end stage renal failure, obese, cancer just a few years ago and 80 yrs old. The picture of health, right? If they die within 60 days since their last positive PCR test or they test positive at death without symptoms.......it's dat dere Covid dat got em!!! That's the prototypical Covid death in the US.

no idea why that link keeps sending me to phishing site

going to need this article in english and coming from MSM for it to be believable ded fkn srs

Why would you trust anything from the MSM?

Almost time for the Covid-21 update

Basato

"Covid Tyrants in Italy defeated by striking Italian dockworkers; Authorities revise death toll from 130,000 to 3,700

For those not paying attention to developments in Italy, the longshoremen, understanding exactly the evil behind the coerced GreenPass which the Italian government has declared a requirement to be employed in any way in Italy, have been blockading the ports of Trieste and Genoa, effectively blocking the Suez Canal by cutting off the two main freight entrees into Europe.Their terms were simple: total, immediate, permanent cancellation of the Mandate.

It didn't take a very long strikebecause just two days ago, the Italian Department of Health casually revised its "Covid-19" official death toll down from over 130,000 to 3783:

Is the Italian government desperately looking for a way to quit the CoronaScam that doesn't involve politicians and apparatchiks hanging upside down by piano wire with their bits stuffed in their mouth after being put against the wall?

Let's hope so.

Strikes work, something American truckers, railroaders, airline pilots, etc. are about to demonstrate to the world.

If you haven't stocked up for a few weeks, now would be a good time to do so. Biden's federal mandate deadline is December 8th...

https://www-iltempo-it.translate.goo...&_x_tr_pto=nui

"In the largest political protest since the Plandemic was launched, Italian citizens from all over the peninsula descended upon Rome to protest the introduction on October 15th of the obligation to have the DeathVaxx Passport in order to work, in the private or public sector, and effective death sentence for the poor, who must either now chose the DeathVaxx and die, or chose tri-weekly swabs at the cost of 45 euros, and thus die from want of salary, or stop working and thus starve to death.

An estimated 500,000 citizens were involved in several places throughout the city, according to Raffaele Palermo.

The crowds overflowed the Piazza Venezia after the State Police, in order to make the protest seem smaller, blocked all entrance to the Piazza del Popolo, where the protest was to be corralled.


As citizens attempted to enter the latter, the State Police were seen to use bludgeons, making blood run in the streets.

After the gathering in the Piazza del Popolo, the protesters marched upon the Piazza Chigi, the seat of the Minister of the Interior, whose malign duty will be to enforce the GreenPass requirement for work.

The Police also used bludgeons without reserve against bystanders, men and women, in order to protect the Ministry of the Interior from hearing the cries of the oppressed citizenry. Cruelty was the order of the day, and the cowardly State Police were out of uniform so that they could better infiltrate and perpetrate crimes upon the people. In Italy it is a felony to assault someone with a blunt weapon, while they are exercising their constitutional rights.

By the end of the day, the people showed their utter disdain for the State Police:

It must be observed, however, that there were sufficient citizens at Rome in this one protest, to have overthrown the Government in an Orange Revolution. They just have not realized their power, and do not yet realize that this Goldman Sachs government only wants one thing from them: their death."
https://www.fromrome.info/2021/10/10...ment-for-work/

The request for a more recent report was in the post you quoted to "call me out".

The article posted in the OP refers to an ISS report, with no reference, citation, or link, and then presents some opinions as facts.

The numbers seem to match between the article in the OP and the report I shared, but the inference/conclusions do not.

Could you share a more recent ISS report?

So there isn't a more recent report available?

"you're racist!!!111"

Vaccine remorse is real. And it’s spectacular.

Enjoy your blood doping boosters. Hahahahaha

Some countries in europe also state that pfizer IS cominarty

Wasn't this version of the vaccine only to be produced sometime later? Is it really already here?

Is Comirnaty mentioned in the inaccurate article that is the topic of this thread?

Nooooooo. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy???? Pls government, save me from The Jecovid Witnesses!

Triggered third worlder spotted

You're correct I'm not seeing the connection between Italy's Ministry of Health, an inaccurate article from an Italian journalist regarding an ISS report, and Canada's approval of vaccines.

Can you clarify?

so then they must have adjusted the total number right? from 9.5 million to 6 million.

right?

guys?

What's inaccurate about it? You don't like the conclusions, but that doesn't make them inaccurate. The ISS put out a report showing less than 3% of their COVID deaths were in people with no comorbidities, meaning 97% died of some other affliction while having COVID. The Italian press has started responding to this information. Do you dispute this?

Can you share that particular ISS report? I posted the most recent one I could find, but it's been suggested above that there is a more recent report available. It's often helpful to assess a source directly as media interpretations of a source can be biased.

Since March 2020, for every 1 covid death the world has seen a NET GAIN to population of +20.

Jfl if u fell for this scam.

You linked it earlier IIRC.

Your argument seems to be that unless the ISS updates their website, this conclusion is just an opinion and can be argued with.

My argument is that is missing the point. The ISS is now admitting that only roughly 3% of deaths previously attributed to COVID can actually blamed on COVID. Everyone else died of something else, with COVID being present (according tom tests that are also known to be wildly inaccurate now). A journalist in an Italian paper wrote an editorial/opinion piece about this new data. I used that as a link to confirm this data revision by ISS.

Are you claiming somebody 75 years old already in the hospital or treatment for diabetes, heart disease, liver disease, and dementia who died in May 2020 and was either assumed to have COVID at the time of death, or had tested positive for COVID (using notoriously unreliable tests in use at the time), should properly be included in the COVID death toll?