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post 1650408523 11-08-2021, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted By HarryDick
This.

Lol @ expecting a videogame to be 100% realistic and true to the events of World War II.
Forced diversity. It is not genuine.
I don't remember them pulling this in older cod games.
It is good that people are pushing back against this.
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post 1650416223 11-08-2021, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted By tornister
Waiting for cod in some more unusual setting like war in Yugoslavia showed from perspective of ordinary soldier, im tired of this spec-ops crap
But thats a very short story comrade. BRB dead.

And agreed OP, haven’t played, but don’t play on it. Didn’t touch Cold War, played WZ for a little bit but that map got dryer than a Nun’s snatch.
post 1650416443 11-08-2021, 05:24 AM
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Cliffs:

Campaign good
Multiplayer bad

The true sequel to MW19 is the real shot of a full valued COD that will hit on both fronts.
post 1650417423 11-08-2021, 05:58 AM
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I stopped buying CoD after BLOPS 2, and didn't pick up another CoD until Modern Warfare 2019. I still played the other CoD's through my friends account, mostly for the campaign, but also dabbled in the multiplayer. I loved Modern Warfare because it was a little slower, a little more tactical, and it was a massive overhaul to the entire CoD franchise, while still being a CoD game. Some people didn't like the TTK, footsteps, pacing, and maps, which are all great points, but to me, I overlooked those things because the game as a whole was refreshing to me. Then Cold War drops, and it was still quarantine time, so I figured I'd pick that game up. Treyarch makes a good CoD game, but only got 2 years instead of 3 since Sledgehammer fukked up so bad they had to come and save the day. Cold War was a downgrade in every category except for... TTK, Footsteps, Pacing, and maps lol, which is why the people who hated MW19 ended up loving Cold War. Once I got Dark Matter in like January, I largely stopped playing the game because I didn't find it fun anymore.

Now you have Vanguard, which after Sledgehammer fukked up Cold War so bad, they took the MW19 engine, and copy & pasted all their WWII elements into the game. The game is quite literally a reskin of Modern Warfare, which to me is incredibly lazy. They did however seem to mesh MW and CW together by fixing the TTK, footsteps, pacing, and maps. So now if you liked MW and you liked CW, you'll find something to like in Vanguard, which will bode the game well. However, the WW2 era has been long beaten to death, and I'm not going to pay $70 for a game, that in my eyes, should only cost $30-$40. I played the Beta and I had enough. I'm sure the game will still do well, but Vanguard to me was the same reason why I stopped playing CoD's back in BLOPs 2. They just recycle and reuse over and over again, and we shell out the money every time. I played the BF and Halo Betas, and honestly, I'm going to just play Halo this year and skip Vanguard. The best WW2 game in the series by far is WaW, which was phenomenal.

I have no doubts though that Modern Warfare 2 in 2022 will end up being incredible, and from all accounts they are ahead of schedule, which will allow them to polish the game even more. I heard some wild things like a morality system in the campaign, increased gore, more action from the AI's, and a drug cartel setting. Couple that with a new Warzone map with some OG MW2 locations sprinkled in, and I think that's all you need. At least Infinity Ward is creating some new things in CoD and not repeating themselves. Vanguard added what? A blindfire action and destructible doors? That's not enough to sell me on buying a CoD. So I'll be playing Halo this year, and see you all in 2022.
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post 1650420383 11-08-2021, 07:00 AM
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post 1650420423 11-08-2021, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Singularity7
Forced diversity. It is not genuine.
I don't remember them pulling this in older cod games.
It is good that people are pushing back against this.
Its a videogame. If you're triggered by that , yikes get help
post 1650427113 11-08-2021, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
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Maybe -- just maybe -- people are tired at being forced into diversity that doesn't make sense in the scheme of the game. Games are meant to be fun, and by all means have female operators in your current day/future war games. The storyline for COD has always been a fun twist on the era for the time, but sometimes you want to load up a WW2 game and it feels like Saving Private Ryan instead of Sleepless in Seattle. Forced diversity is not fun nor needed. You shouldn't pick up a ww2 game and feel "attacked" because there are no female soldiers, as there were no female soldiers at that time. It should be expected that just this one game won't need to have a female presence and it would be fully correct to assume such.

Nevermind that it's already not a very good game, adding forced diversity takes away more gamers than it brings in, guaranteed.
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post 1650430433 11-08-2021, 09:48 AM
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while I did lol @ the fact that the two main characters in a WWII game were a woman and a black guy, since those two groups were in the absolute minority of combat roles during WWII, it's not unprecedented... The female Russian sniper in the game is based on a real life Russian girlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenkoand the Russians were famous in WWII for using women, old men, young boys, literally anything they could get.
post 1650433813 11-08-2021, 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted By kr1kit
while I did lol @ the fact that the two main characters in a WWII game were a woman and a black guy, since those two groups were in the absolute minority of combat roles during WWII, it's not unprecedented... The female Russian sniper in the game is based on a real life Russian girlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenkoand the Russians were famous in WWII for using women, old men, young boys, literally anything they could get.
I always felt like if they wanted to make a WWII campaign focused around a female soldier, they should have simply focused on the Russian campaign. Like you said, it makes sense in that setting, as the Russians actually had female snipers back then. Having that character as an American however would make absolutely no sense and ruin the immersion. That is where they really phucked up with the female characters in Battlefield V, none of them were Russians.
post 1650434043 11-08-2021, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe
Maybe -- just maybe -- people are tired at being forced into diversity that doesn't make sense in the scheme of the game. Games are meant to be fun, and by all means have female operators in your current day/future war games. The storyline for COD has always been a fun twist on the era for the time, but sometimes you want to load up a WW2 game and it feels like Saving Private Ryan instead of Sleepless in Seattle. Forced diversity is not fun nor needed. You shouldn't pick up a ww2 game and feel "attacked" because there are no female soldiers, as there were no female soldiers at that time. It should be expected that just this one game won't need to have a female presence and it would be fully correct to assume such.

Nevermind that it's already not a very good game, adding forced diversity takes away more gamers than it brings in, guaranteed.
Well just think about it, the forced diversity thing is something that only appeals to the political far left audience. They are the people calling everyone who complains about it incels and autists despite they themselves probably being the #1 example of that as far as the general audience is concerned.

Most people who are interested in a WWII setting aren't going to be asking for more diversity and modern political values being represented.
post 1650437383 11-08-2021, 11:22 AM
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I think its ok, but I like CW better
post 1650448313 11-08-2021, 01:56 PM
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definitely LOL @ being forced to use all women operators in the beginning, but even more lol @ even having half the operators be chicks in the first place....no shot they could hold a BAR LOL

overall the game is ok....just another reskinned COD. It's to be expected.....get bored after about an hour or so now a few days after release. and if you're not using an STG, MP40, or shotgun you're just getting **** on....spawn die, spawn die, spawn die, spawn die
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post 1650449663 11-08-2021, 02:19 PM
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COD is ass. Last good one was MW2 multiplayer. Should leave every gun OP rather than nerf some and buff others.


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post 1650451153 11-08-2021, 02:44 PM
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Lol, putting women in the war is the second biggest lie ever told about WW2.
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post 1650452443 11-08-2021, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By markd9913
COD is ass. Last good one was MW2 multiplayer. Should leave every gun OP rather than nerf some and buff others.


Real skill died a long time ago with

Repped; this guy knows what real FPS skill is
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post 1650452833 11-08-2021, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By Singularity7
Forced diversity. It is not genuine.
I don't remember them pulling this in older cod games.
It is good that people are pushing back against this.
You’re confusing forced diversity with revisionist history.


Women running around, firing Bren guns from the hip like in Betafield V is ridiculous, but it’s just part of the soggy pussified world that the west has become.

No point getting upset. Just realise, every other normal person around you is aware of how farcically stupid woke culture is
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post 1650460483 11-08-2021, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted By BootneckBrah
You’re confusing forced diversity with revisionist history.


Women running around, firing Bren guns from the hip like in Betafield V is ridiculous, but it’s just part of the soggy pussified world that the west has become.

No point getting upset. Just realise, every other normal person around you is aware of how farcically stupid woke culture is
Don't blame the gaming companies, blame the ****gs in reddit saying this is a masterpiece and asking for more of this woke culture. If the devs create games like this it's because there's a demand for it.

When people think a black woman dressed as a german, rocking an MP-40 running around spraying around is considered bad ass and totally normal in a WW2 game, they'll keep doing it.

To me the feminism isn't the problem, even the russians had women fighting germans in WW2 so it's not that bad per say. What really killed the immersion/logic of the game is the lack of factions, meaning allied characters fight other allied characters in germany which is totally stupid.
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Originally Posted By Brazzah
Don't blame the gaming companies, blame the ****gs in reddit saying this is a masterpiece and asking for more of this woke culture. If the devs create games like this it's because there's a demand for it.

When people think a black woman dressed as a german, rocking an MP-40 running around spraying around is considered bad ass and totally normal in a WW2 game, they'll keep doing it.

To me the feminism isn't the problem, even the russians had women fighting germans in WW2 so it's not that bad per say. What really killed the immersion/logic of the game is the lack of factions, meaning allied characters fight other allied characters in germany which is totally stupid.
So clearly the problem is leftist influence and revisionism.
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This chit looks like a PS3 game.
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe


This chit looks like a PS3 game.
Twitter video is extremely compressed; that video was like 360p resolution


The multiplayer doesn't look brilliant graphically(shading is still nice) but they did that on purpose so it wasn't super-intensive like BF:2042

The texture resolution definitely lacks hard, many are 480p in-game
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Originally Posted By blissful88
Twitter video is extremely compressed; that video was like 360p resolution


The multiplayer doesn't look brilliant graphically(shading is still nice) but they did that on purpose so it wasn't super-intensive like BF:2042

The texture resolution definitely lacks hard, many are 480p in-game
The graphics was just the surface. The randomly physics, the awful tank handling, the laughable instakill from being touched by the vehicle, the full team spawn, it just looked awful all around.
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Play beta, felt sweaty.

SBMM was absurd.

Guns are mega lame, they're almost all the same.

Maps are too big too.
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Originally Posted By bongowongo
Lol you guys really love reveling in negativity and getting triggered dont you .... I'm playing the campaign rn, its so far much better than Cold War or the campaign from their WW2 game a couple years back. Campaign graphics are excellent as well since its based off the MW2019 engine .... Lol at playing this game for mp.
Hmmm, maybe I'll have to get for the campaign if it is better than the WW2 campaign. That was my second favorite campaign after the infinite warfare campaign.
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started playing it yesterday. really liking multiplayer so far. only issues for me are the spawns, the overly long grind to unlock the best weapon attachments, and that dumb voting chit at the end of games thats only there for activision to profit off of by selling animations. apart from that, gameplay is super fun, movement mechanics are great, there are many maps and the feel of the guns is good,

havent played the campaign yet so cant comment of the wokeness yet
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Originally Posted By Lastro
started playing it yesterday. really liking multiplayer so far. only issues for me are the spawns, the overly long grind to unlock the best weapon attachments, and that dumb voting chit at the end of games thats only there for activision to profit off of by selling animations. apart from that, gameplay is super fun, movement mechanics are great, there are many maps and the feel of the guns is good,

havent played the campaign yet so cant comment of the wokeness yet
agreed with all this

just wish the movement was a bit slower, its so fuking fast

you need a line of g-fuel crack just to keep up
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Only played multiplayer but I actually think it's pretty good, the maps are some of the better maps they've released recently imo

Agree that the MVP at the end of each game is beyond tedious though hope they can that but can't see it happening
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