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**OFFICIAL** Trading and Investing Thread: Part XIV -- Reopening Edition
11-09-2021, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
Hope you sold NEGG yesterdayPicked up TSLA at 1113 and 1065.
Oh Lord finish green.
Oh Lord finish green.

I probably banged your mom.
Eat the whole animal like a real man.
11-09-2021, 08:33 AM
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pltr intraday chain doesn't look bad at all
Most active chains
Title Volume OI Bid-Ask
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $25.00 21,288 7,475 $0.48-$0.49
PLTR 2021-11-12 P $24.00 20,679 16,923 $0.49-$0.51
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $25.50 16,315 1,414 $0.36-$0.37
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $30.00 14,097 41,413 $0.06-$0.07
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $29.00 12,671 19,957 $0.15-$0.16
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $27.00 12,603 21,982 $0.16-$0.17
PLTR 2021-11-26 C $26.00 12,085 19,512 $0.57-$0.60
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $26.00 11,465 8,581 $0.26-$0.28
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $28.00 10,232 17,952 $0.10-$0.12
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $25.00 9,556 45,857 $0.73-$0.74
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $26.50 8,469 8,348 $0.20-$0.21
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $27.00 8,163 29,019 $0.30-$0.31
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $30.00 8,084 55,751 $0.11-$0.12
PLTR 2022-01-21 C $30.00 7,676 83,929 $0.79-$0.81
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $35.00 7,379 35,187 $0.02-$0.03
Most active chains
Title Volume OI Bid-Ask
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $25.00 21,288 7,475 $0.48-$0.49
PLTR 2021-11-12 P $24.00 20,679 16,923 $0.49-$0.51
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $25.50 16,315 1,414 $0.36-$0.37
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $30.00 14,097 41,413 $0.06-$0.07
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $29.00 12,671 19,957 $0.15-$0.16
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $27.00 12,603 21,982 $0.16-$0.17
PLTR 2021-11-26 C $26.00 12,085 19,512 $0.57-$0.60
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $26.00 11,465 8,581 $0.26-$0.28
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $28.00 10,232 17,952 $0.10-$0.12
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $25.00 9,556 45,857 $0.73-$0.74
PLTR 2021-11-12 C $26.50 8,469 8,348 $0.20-$0.21
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $27.00 8,163 29,019 $0.30-$0.31
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $30.00 8,084 55,751 $0.11-$0.12
PLTR 2022-01-21 C $30.00 7,676 83,929 $0.79-$0.81
PLTR 2021-11-19 C $35.00 7,379 35,187 $0.02-$0.03
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11-09-2021, 08:35 AM
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last chance to load the yacht with some DOXIMITY.
earnings after close.
Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee...
earnings after close.
Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee...
11-09-2021, 08:35 AM
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11-09-2021, 09:32 AM
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11-09-2021, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted By Lefticle⏩
I'm worried about this perspective for UPST, as well.NVDA on the other hand, I'd guess regardless of earnings they'd tank, they went from ~$200 to $325 in one quarter... however I wouldnt play earnings due to that alone
11-09-2021, 09:54 AM
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short tesla!
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
11-09-2021, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
a gift for youI'm worried about this perspective for UPST, as well.
intraday
Title Volume OI Bid-Ask
UPST 2021-11-12 C $400.00 917 1,826 $4.60-$4.90
UPST 2021-11-12 C $335.00 676 718 $16.30-$17.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $350.00 584 1,502 $12.20-$12.60
UPST 2021-11-12 P $300.00 520 1,588 $14.10-$14.50
UPST 2021-11-19 C $400.00 498 1,367 $7.40-$8.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $330.00 480 683 $18.20-$18.80
UPST 2021-11-12 P $250.00 467 573 $1.95-$2.15
UPST 2021-11-12 P $255.00 403 1,442 $2.55-$2.80
UPST 2021-12-17 P $240.00 379 1,359 $9.40-$10.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $320.00 374 261 $21.90-$22.60
UPST 2021-11-12 P $260.00 360 1,307 $3.20-$3.50
UPST 2021-11-12 C $590.00 345 1,022 $0.45-$0.60
UPST 2021-11-12 C $337.50 320 311 $15.50-$16.30
UPST 2021-11-12 P $310.00 302 617 $18.70-$19.50
UPST 2021-11-12 P $280.00 275 1,058 $6.80-$7.60
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11-09-2021, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted By greenleaf⏩
I think you're fine. So far it's holding a key 1040. I personally have a order in at 1035, see if it can retest those lows. Probably won't get filled, but who knows.Thoughts on TSLA not holding 1000 by this Friday? Sold naked 1000 put weekly on it yesterday and sweating bullets right now...
EDIT: naked puts? geesh man......RIP
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11-09-2021, 10:34 AM
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Haven't had time to post and had time off.
About Tesla.
Simple .... Tesla gives Tesla takes the king of meme stocks. Gamma squeeze up gamms squeeze down.
Its 95 percent driven by options for the following reason.
Tradable float is very small (options forced buying is causing wild swings)
Today they decided to jump into weekly 1000P and 950P you can see the volume and OI on both.
No this has nothing to do with Elon being forced to sell stock due to debt (when Elon starts selling Tesla stock it will be in blocks off exchange and it will be slow sell)
1000 is massive support for Tesla under that. Well you're phucked.
I don't see any reason why it goes under $1000 but than again you have no idea who is pushing this around.
Premiums are jacked in all directions cause UPST has implied move of 20% for earnings up or down.
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The guy earlier saying AMD / NVDA are juiced is right.
Would not be surprised if AMD goes $125-130 // NVDA down to $270.
There is going to be unwind on these when no clue.
About Tesla.
Simple .... Tesla gives Tesla takes the king of meme stocks. Gamma squeeze up gamms squeeze down.
Its 95 percent driven by options for the following reason.
Tradable float is very small (options forced buying is causing wild swings)
Today they decided to jump into weekly 1000P and 950P you can see the volume and OI on both.
No this has nothing to do with Elon being forced to sell stock due to debt (when Elon starts selling Tesla stock it will be in blocks off exchange and it will be slow sell)
1000 is massive support for Tesla under that. Well you're phucked.
I don't see any reason why it goes under $1000 but than again you have no idea who is pushing this around.
Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
This is worthless. volume/oi is too small nobody touching this crap.a gift for you
intraday
Title Volume OI Bid-Ask
UPST 2021-11-12 C $400.00 917 1,826 $4.60-$4.90
UPST 2021-11-12 C $335.00 676 718 $16.30-$17.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $350.00 584 1,502 $12.20-$12.60
UPST 2021-11-12 P $300.00 520 1,588 $14.10-$14.50
UPST 2021-11-19 C $400.00 498 1,367 $7.40-$8.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $330.00 480 683 $18.20-$18.80
UPST 2021-11-12 P $250.00 467 573 $1.95-$2.15
UPST 2021-11-12 P $255.00 403 1,442 $2.55-$2.80
UPST 2021-12-17 P $240.00 379 1,359 $9.40-$10.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $320.00 374 261 $21.90-$22.60
UPST 2021-11-12 P $260.00 360 1,307 $3.20-$3.50
UPST 2021-11-12 C $590.00 345 1,022 $0.45-$0.60
UPST 2021-11-12 C $337.50 320 311 $15.50-$16.30
UPST 2021-11-12 P $310.00 302 617 $18.70-$19.50
UPST 2021-11-12 P $280.00 275 1,058 $6.80-$7.60
intraday
Title Volume OI Bid-Ask
UPST 2021-11-12 C $400.00 917 1,826 $4.60-$4.90
UPST 2021-11-12 C $335.00 676 718 $16.30-$17.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $350.00 584 1,502 $12.20-$12.60
UPST 2021-11-12 P $300.00 520 1,588 $14.10-$14.50
UPST 2021-11-19 C $400.00 498 1,367 $7.40-$8.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $330.00 480 683 $18.20-$18.80
UPST 2021-11-12 P $250.00 467 573 $1.95-$2.15
UPST 2021-11-12 P $255.00 403 1,442 $2.55-$2.80
UPST 2021-12-17 P $240.00 379 1,359 $9.40-$10.20
UPST 2021-11-12 C $320.00 374 261 $21.90-$22.60
UPST 2021-11-12 P $260.00 360 1,307 $3.20-$3.50
UPST 2021-11-12 C $590.00 345 1,022 $0.45-$0.60
UPST 2021-11-12 C $337.50 320 311 $15.50-$16.30
UPST 2021-11-12 P $310.00 302 617 $18.70-$19.50
UPST 2021-11-12 P $280.00 275 1,058 $6.80-$7.60
Premiums are jacked in all directions cause UPST has implied move of 20% for earnings up or down.
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The guy earlier saying AMD / NVDA are juiced is right.
Would not be surprised if AMD goes $125-130 // NVDA down to $270.
There is going to be unwind on these when no clue.
11-09-2021, 10:34 AM
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Watch Apple come out of left field with a killer EV and new autonomous tech — they just hired the guy who previously led Tesla’s autonomous initiative and who said Elon was overstating its capabilities
They’re not putting much out there but Apple tends to keep things on the down low until they’re ready
They’re not putting much out there but Apple tends to keep things on the down low until they’re ready
11-09-2021, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
dman man don't be savage lol I was just showing him the intraday - I didn't say it was good or bad lolThis is worthless. volume/oi is too small nobody touching this crap.
Premiums are jacked in all directions cause UPST has implied move of 20% for earnings up or down.
Premiums are jacked in all directions cause UPST has implied move of 20% for earnings up or down.
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11-09-2021, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted By Visel⏩
As I mentioned in the previous posts, I leveraged margin to buy 150 NVIDIA shares @ 298.5. Had a margin call even though my equity was really high, maybe a glitch, or I overlooked something. Either way, sold those margined shares and the final is a profit of around $1850 (after accounting for interest).Went ahead and sold about half of the stocks I was on margin for during after hours, don't know why but I got margin called even though my equity was into the 40%'s, wonder if there's a 50% equity rule I didn't know about. Either way, realized $900 profit or so from doing that. The plan now is to sell the other half after the GTC stuff, otherwise after the earning's report next week. Now interest will accrue $5/day for me instead of $10.

Not bad. I woke up late this morning. I saw it sitting around the $318-320's while I was asleep unfortunately. Sold at some change above $311. Missed out on probably $700-900 worth of extra profit due to this.
Unfortunately my intraday trading is $0, probably due to the call I had, even though I'm sitting at 100% equity srs. Working on reaching customer support right now. I've been following AGC for a while now, and could've capitalized on a major play that would've been several thousands of dollars profit. But I can't buy anything.
11-09-2021, 11:16 AM
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11-09-2021, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
wasn't trying to be savage.dman man don't be savage lol I was just showing him the intraday - I didn't say it was good or bad lol
just pointing out that nobody is touching UPST via options especially into earnings.
ask PLTR idiots yesterday that bough $28-30C they are worth zero today.
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on different note.
Tesla if it finished -10 percent today that would the biggest one day drop ever / it touched 20 ma so far.
11-09-2021, 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Supposedly in talks with Hyundai and another car company. Old news. But, no matter what, ppl and especially youngins want that TSLA name.Watch Apple come out of left field with a killer EV and new autonomous tech — they just hired the guy who previously led Tesla’s autonomous initiative and who said Elon was overstating its capabilities
They’re not putting much out there but Apple tends to keep things on the down low until they’re ready
They’re not putting much out there but Apple tends to keep things on the down low until they’re ready
Also bought more at 1045. Fuk
1045 didn't fill. I guess I never pressed confirmed or submit on vanguard.
11-09-2021, 11:40 AM
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11-09-2021, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
Got bad news boyo, NVDA not juiced until world's biggest market capitlization. Write it tf down.The guy earlier saying AMD / NVDA are juiced is right.
Would not be surprised if AMD goes $125-130 // NVDA down to $270.
There is going to be unwind on these when no clue.
Would not be surprised if AMD goes $125-130 // NVDA down to $270.
There is going to be unwind on these when no clue.
11-09-2021, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Slamt⏩
i've been buying TSM and INTC (srs)so which one of yall bought the nvda and amd open today
I'm excited about Intel's 12th gen CPUs (Alder Lake and Sapphire Rapids) and their TSMC 6nm GPUs that will release in the next few months... could be game changing
11-09-2021, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
I don't know about the tesla name dude. Most of the people that I know get a woodie when they hear about the accelerationSupposedly in talks with Hyundai and another car company. Old news. But, no matter what, ppl and especially youngins want that TSLA name.
Also bought more at 1045. Fuk
Also bought more at 1045. Fuk
Tesla builds a Sh it quality car
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What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
I rape back (if you ask me to :P)
11-09-2021, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted By greenleaf⏩
Hahahah my fukin man..Thoughts on TSLA not holding 1000 by this Friday? Sold naked 1000 put weekly on it yesterday and sweating bullets right now...
At least have the sense to csp that bitch.. I’ve considered doing tsla puts, but I’m woefully undercapitalized
11-09-2021, 12:19 PM
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Shorting TSLA is about as risky as they come with large caps
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11-09-2021, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By HMFIC_BROWSIN⏩
plz stopGot bad news boyo, NVDA not juiced until world's biggest market capitlization. Write it tf down.
you're making pltr guys sound reasonable.
nothing nvda does is game changing compared to its competition
you're living in fantasy land and every nvda hot take you have is nothing but dog shiiit
Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah⏩
alder lake reviews are nice but as usual it runs hot and bigger power draw.i've been buying TSM and INTC (srs)
I'm excited about Intel's 12th gen CPUs (Alder Lake and Sapphire Rapids) and their TSMC 6nm GPUs that will release in the next few months... could be game changing
I'm excited about Intel's 12th gen CPUs (Alder Lake and Sapphire Rapids) and their TSMC 6nm GPUs that will release in the next few months... could be game changing
lga1700 and ddr5 is expensive as phuck atm
all amd has to do is lower price of 5900x or 5600x to counter this
margins on consumer cpu is not that big.
server chips is where its at.
amd makes its money with server cpu (epyc) the saving in power draw and temp is something intel can't even come close to compete with.
intel gpu is interesting but lets be honest it won't be touching 3 series nvda or amd 1600 series cards.
11-09-2021, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
I feel like there's a lot of overlap between Apple and Tesla fans. If Apple comes out with something top notch and heavily integrates it with their whole ecosystem, that'll definitely be a force to be reckoned withSupposedly in talks with Hyundai and another car company. Old news. But, no matter what, ppl and especially youngins want that TSLA name.
Also bought more at 1045. Fuk
Also bought more at 1045. Fuk
11-09-2021, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
there are downsides to Intel's new releases (we don't even know what real-world power draw will look like on Sapphire Rapids which is the most important test in regards to Intel's 12th gen CPUs) but I think any ability to maintain market share (i.e. a datacenter CPU that is not blown out of the water, just somewhat competitive) will be favorable to Intel given their absurdly low price multiples. Intel is valued today like they will never be competitive again in our lifetimes... but if they could start having some solid product releases, that would turn around quickly IMO (10 years ago, nobody thought AMD or NVIDIA would be where they are today, so investor sentiment does change extremely quickly)plz stop
you're making pltr guys sound reasonable.
nothing nvda does is game changing compared to its competition
you're living in fantasy land and every nvda hot take you have is nothing but dog shiiit
alder lake reviews are nice but as usual it runs hot and bigger power draw.
lga1700 and ddr5 is expensive as phuck atm
all amd has to do is lower price of 5900x or 5600x to counter this
margins on consumer cpu is not that big.
server chips is where its at.
amd makes its money with server cpu (epyc) the saving in power draw and temp is something intel can't even come close to compete with.
intel gpu is interesting but lets be honest it won't be touching 3 series nvda or amd 1600 series cards.
you're making pltr guys sound reasonable.
nothing nvda does is game changing compared to its competition
you're living in fantasy land and every nvda hot take you have is nothing but dog shiiit
alder lake reviews are nice but as usual it runs hot and bigger power draw.
lga1700 and ddr5 is expensive as phuck atm
all amd has to do is lower price of 5900x or 5600x to counter this
margins on consumer cpu is not that big.
server chips is where its at.
amd makes its money with server cpu (epyc) the saving in power draw and temp is something intel can't even come close to compete with.
intel gpu is interesting but lets be honest it won't be touching 3 series nvda or amd 1600 series cards.
11-09-2021, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah⏩
I do agree that Intel is reaching very undervalued atm.there are downsides to Intel's new releases (we don't even know what real-world power draw will look like on Sapphire Rapids which is the most important test in regards to Intel's 12th gen CPUs) but I think any ability to maintain market share (i.e. a datacenter CPU that is not blown out of the water, just somewhat competitive) will be favorable to Intel given their absurdly low price multiples. Intel is valued today like they will never be competitive again in our lifetimes... but if they could start having some solid product releases, that would turn around quickly IMO (10 years ago, nobody thought AMD or NVIDIA would be where they are today, so investor sentiment does change extremely quickly)
That big question going forward is will Intel actually deliver good products or are there more years of sideways.
Even in the best of days when Intel owned cpu space its trading range from 2010 to 2018 was $25-40.
11-09-2021, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
just thinking out loud: as we move toward a more "centralized" infra wouldn't this be the opposite?server chips is where its at.
most companies are running nowadays on shared hardware (aws, azure, gcp, ***, etc...)
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11-09-2021, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted By camaleom⏩
He is referring to the chips which power those datacenters (aws, azure, etc)just thinking out loud: as we move to a more "centralized" infra wouldn't this be the opposite?
most companies are running nowadays on shared hardware (aws, azure, gcp, ***, etc...)
most companies are running nowadays on shared hardware (aws, azure, gcp, ***, etc...)
11-09-2021, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted By SouthDakotaBrah⏩
I get that but before you needed chips to power every data center (every company had one or a resemblance of one) now that is all being consolidated under one umbrella and those servers are being shred and running at 75-85% capacity day in day out... if back in the day we needed it 1M servers to power US companies I wouldn't think we need the same number if all or the majority of those companies are running under one data center. Also, add the increase in performance of the new chips and I honestly don't see why we need "many" to accomplish a task.He is referring to the chips which power those datacenters (aws, azure, etc)
Quick example from my shop: we had a data modeling process that took 5 days to run on a hadoop cluster with 5 nodes (in plain english 6 or 7 servers depending on config) - now the same load is being run on 3 after we moved it to aws... again, as performance increase I don't see why we will need more servers.
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