I would do it if it was legal but it isn't as we've discussed before.

Sex robot is my option I think. Best I can do

Dude, there's that one motivational speaker, and he has no arms, and no legs, just some weird foot attached to his torso, and his wife is beautiful and he knocked her up. Or that weird, Ziggy guy.

And here you are whining about being short?

He'll, even though it's most likely fake, there's that Squirmy Guy, who's pretty much mush.

I think what a lot of you are disregarding is the huge shift in power towards females we are seeing. 10 years ago I had no trouble with dating as it seemed like a relatively fair market. I have been rated as a 7/10 and have always hooked up with similar status women. Was even in a relationship for 6.5 years and have 2 children of my own. Now as a newly single father dating is almost impossible. I was dating a single mother last year but after months was told I don't think we would work out. She's now in a relationship with a guy who has no children and seems very well off financially. Basically women can pick and choose. Party, sloot, have children to other men and then when they are done with that find some bloke who has abstained from that his entire 20s and settle down.

Basically what I am saying is if you work on your career and fitness your entire 20s you might be able to settle down with some 30 year old cum dumpster with 2 kids. In other words the the juice isn't worth the squeeze

OP, you are black, and I really dont care how racist this is, but you need to lift, and absolutely max out on style. Not the ghetto shiit with Jordans and urban street stuff. Are you in college? Do you actually lift? I ask because a good friend of mine is black and short like you are but he oozes charisma and style. He is also a chemistry major. He has zero problems getting women, especially dumbass liberal white chicks. He has been with a latina girl. I never saw him with asian or indian. Just black and some white chicks. The whole point is he is on fukking point with his body and charisma. I lol everytime Im sitting outside our favorite coffee shop bc this mfer rolls up on his skateboard looking smooth as fuk. He can strike up a conversation with anyone. He has knowledge on obscure topics. Hes overwhelmingly optimistic.

Maybe you need a deep mindset shift. I suggest taking shrooms with a friend you trust. And I want you to deeply look introspectively and explore your own mind and try to think about these things.

Its not going to be easy, but what alternative do you have if you want to live your best life?

I think the big difference here is acting as though your happiness hangs in the balance. Putting so much stock in leaving your happiness and personal fulfillment up to someone else won't leave you happy in the end, and I'm sure a lot of women out there can sense when a guy is incredibly needy

That guy is obviously an exception. He's also White, white guys have it different.

I'm not whining about height i don't mind being short personally but I'm just trying to get it through to some of you idiots that women don't care about anything else if you're that short

A few miscers itt have basically admitted this and acted like its a reasonable trade off

Lifting doesn't make a difference for me. I was yoked out of my mind in college, made no difference.

Your friend probably has a solid face and I strongly doubt he's 5'3.

There's a reason that I can make girl friends but not gfs. If women like you but aren't physically attracted to you, they'll just be friends

Your happiness does hang in the balance. Being alone sucks. Most people get into relationships because it makes them happy. We don't have to lie and pretend that it doesn't.

Being needy/clingy is not the same thing as admitting to your needs as a human being. You don't have to be needy, but lol at pretending like life is peachy and happy being an incel

So you're in the bottom 10 percent of men height-wise.

How can you make up for that?

Get jacked. Get rich. Get social standing. You can still climb the ladder. Just takes more work.

The problem most incels have is they want the top 20 percent of women when they are in the bottom 20 percent of men.

How many women do you think are between the age of 18-30, not fat, and don't have a busted grill?

You can't make up for it, its disqualifying for the vast majority of women.

The few women who are open to it have their pick of 400 desperate manlets and can at least find some with better faces.

The women who aren't fat or busted and under 30 have so many options right now its impossible for lower tier men.

Its a myth that incels are all chasing 10s. Most incels will take anything at least for sex

Then how do you explain all the crippled or disfigured guys who still get female attention? Incel problems are 100 percent self made. If you wanted a woman you'd have one. Same with a career, house, anything else in life.

You just don't want to put in the work. Plenty of ugly men out there banging dime pieces. So what if they're crazy, whores, or gold diggers? Hell, some I've dated were all 3.

.....there isn't a bunch of crippled or disfigured guys getting female attention. Where the hell are you getting that from?

Right now young men are having less sex and success dating than ever before. It's like you completely ignored all the points in the article in my op.

Dating is nothing like a career or a house. When 99.98% of women dismiss you on height alone, how is that comparable to a house that you can build yourself with cash or a career that your skills will directly play the biggest role

I’m on the fence a little bit with this issue.

Dating is definelty a lot harder now than it used to be, and the dynamic of online dating has a bearing even when I comes to face to face approaching because women are aware of just how attractive a guy they can get online and how easily they can do it. Almost every girl under age 25 has used online dating atleast a little bit- even if they’ve never met anyone they’ve probably used it for attention sexting etc at some point

I’ve spoken to some girls thouvh and they say they wouldn’t want to meet their bf online if they could help it, they feel like it’s less genuine and it’s not a good narrative or story to tell their mates. Girls are heavily invested into the narrative of a relationship as well as the person - and the narrative of meeting in a natural non forced way always trumps online. Girls will tend to lower their standards for a guy in their social circle compared to one they meet online.


Having said that this doesn’t address the issue of actually meeting girls in person, go out to a bar these days and half th people there are heads down in their phones, probably swiping on tinder. What practical, actionable advice would you give a guy like me who is struggling to meet girls irl and is not college aged anymore (just graduated).


By practicable and actionable I mean not sometbing really vague like
‘Be the best version of yourself’
‘Be confident’
‘Show then you’re alpha’

When I’ve asked this question in the misc before guys tend to give me replies like those above and I think they’re really unhelpful

Some of the better advice has included things like taking up a class or hobby that might have girls in it, but unfortuantely all my hobbies are male dominant and I wouldn’t want to fake and interest in something like yoga just to meet girls because that’s a bit cringey and I feel like they’d probs pick up on it

Coping from 9-5 monday to friday.

Good post brah thanks.

Definitely don't do activities you have no genuine interest in. That's cringe af

Isn't there an inverse correlation between ball size and test levels. If anything you want to be smallballsmcgee

That was the most estrogen filled thing I've read all month and you should legally turn in your balls for posting this.

Talking honestly about modern dating for men is not estrogen filled. I have no idea why so many people refuse to acknowledge these issues.

The cards aren't stacked in your favor. You have two options; increase those odds or rot.

If you choose to rot, do that and stfu about the dating world that doesn't concern you.

There are other ways. Trust me, if you are social you'll have much more opportunity to meet women, other than cold approaching and online dating.

Friends of friends hanging out etc is a great way to meet women. It's worked for me and many others and I've witnessed it sooo many times.

This defeatist BS is annoying as fuk. Realize that you can try harder, get your head out of your ass and move on with life ffs.

MEGALULZ.

always wanted to goto Yoga even like before it was popular because of women. I'm actually pretty normal in real life and repress all my cringe to post here but can imagine I would have a hard time NOT acting like i want to worship ass.

Cliffs: prolly excuse myself during class to squeeze one out...

the problem isnt meeting women, the problem is they arent interested in dating the 5'3 dark skinned average at best in the face guy. Why would they when they can easily do better?

You guys dont live in the real world

Increasing the odds from 0% to 0.1% doesnt really matter dude. I'd need to be a millionaire just to be as attractive as an average looking average height guy. thats the reality of it, and for some reason a lot of people refuse to see this for the problem that it is.

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan...Shut this bullchit up. You don't get laid because your attitude is literal pussy kryptonite. Game full of validation seeking crap..."do you think I'm ugly?"..."I can't believe you matched with me"...Loose foot, lacking confidence, flaccid. Girl is probably mildly into you until every cell in your body gives off the "I don't think I'm good enough" vibe. If you don't think you're good enough, neither will she. Then you wanna play around like you don't understand why she bushed you.

Skimmed the article.

Author says "just lift bro" is bad advice, then a few paragraphs later says improve yourself.



Guy is just arguing in circles.

Guessing you didnt read and just barely skimmed for some buzz words. He explains the difference clearly

why is it so hard for some of you to believe a 5 foot 3 not very good looking guy doesn't meet female standards.

you're no different than women lying to their ugly or fat girl friends.

your own wife has told you she wouldnt have dated you if you were short dude. c'mon

Oh yeah. Why didn't you just stay with your ex OP?