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post 1650859133 11-15-2021, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
You just got caught lying yet again, and this is the best you can come up with?

LOL

At least claiming to be drunk was kind of funny.

I guess I differentiate between mistakes and lies.

Some people exhibit more hostile attribution than others; it's the way of the world.
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Never vaxxed gang. Been laughing at you absolute betas since day one. I'm sure some of you regret it, but the damage is done lmao it's over
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post 1650859283 11-15-2021, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
That's why I quoted him, he did say you sent that.

Beavercels going to beavercel, and vaxcucks gonna vaxcucks.

Beavercel vaxcucks gonna lie and be deceitful.
I appreciate it bro.
post 1650860013 11-15-2021, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Thanks for discussing!

I've seen others suggesting covid vaccines end up giving the recipient acquired immunodeficiency, so I wondered if that was the line of argument being used here.

I Vanden Bossche saying that if a vaccinated person is infected, they won't develop antibodies?

That runs counter to what we're seeing in people vaccinated with an alpha-based vaccine who subsequently get infected with delta. My understanding is that the current vaccines target multiple epitopes of the spike protein. Are all of those changing enough from variant to variant to leave someone completely unprotected and unable to mount an immune response?

While you develop antibodies and B and T and NK memory cells to a greater number of antigens in response to infection, that also comes with significant risk. Some of antigens look similar to what's already in your system, which can lead to serious complications (inflammation, organ damage, thrombosis).

Humans don't maintain neutralizing levels of antibodies without repeated exposures. But, the memory cells can last for years or even decades. I don't see how it matters whether you're exposed to antigens from vaccines or viruses, it seems that what matters is the development of memory cells to prevent serious or severe illness.

Reading up on Geert Vanden Bossche suggests he's claims covid vaccines will end humanity.

Here is a video that explain why Vanden Bossche is likely incorrect:

Gonna try to make it through this thing, but I’m only 20 seconds in and already rolling my eyes because he goes “…is saying this is going to destroy civilization and mankind as a species”. Hopefully it gets better.



Edit- sorry bro, can’t make it more than 4 and a half minutes. Guy is so obviously full of sh!t that it’s surprising anyone could listen to that…though I guess if someone has never seen Geert speak for himself it may be easier since they wouldn’t know any better. He calls him an anti-vaxxer when he has dedicated most of his adult life to improving vaccines. He says he is a veterinary doctor before going into his experience(at which point he does everything he can to downplay his credibility). He criticizes him because he posted his letter on social media instead of putting it in a scientific journal. All he has done so far is attack the person, and one so in a dishonest way so it would be impossible or me to take him seriously.
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Originally Posted By PrehistoricUFO
It isn't happening fast enough - look at the idiots further up in this thread. They just refuse to admit they've been played and insteaddouble down on their terrible decision to cope with it.
bingo.

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post 1650860553 11-15-2021, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
Dude, you literally lied.

Or wait, what is it?

"People experience things differently"

I see you are a big fan of Mr. Fancy Socks - you certainly try to emulate him.
It was clearly a mistake. I posted a screenshot.

I saw a name that started with B amidst a flurry of negs, didn't look closely and incorrectly attributed it to the thread starter.

I apologized and tried to move on.

To err is human.
post 1650860663 11-15-2021, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted By BrunotheBoxer
Ooops.


Fauci just told everyone you will be taking boosters forever because the shiit doesn't work. Another meme becomes reality.
I don't get why boosters are some big "gotcha" for anti-vaxxers. People get the flu shot every season. I guess that means the flu vaccine doesn't work?

BTW this is coming from someone who has never gotten a flu vaccine or the covid vaccine (young and healthy so don't feel I need them). I just don't get people like OP who have made being an anti vaxxer/masker their whole identity.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Those are all government and political policies and none of those things happened due to people being vaccinated.
If everyone that did not have a good reason to take the "vaccines" refused them government would not have the choice to mandate them.
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post 1650860813 11-15-2021, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
Gonna try to make it through this thing, but I’m only 20 seconds in and already rolling my eyes because he goes “…is saying this is going to destroy civilization and mankind as a species”. Hopefully it gets better.
It seems to be his position that he outlined in his manifesto:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...vanden-bossche
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
If everyone that did not have a good reason to take the "vaccines" refused them government would not have the choice to mandate them.
I'm not following. If the conspiracy is true, wouldn't the government be more apt to mandate if less people took them?

Who gets to decide who has a good reason to be vaccinated?
post 1650861443 11-15-2021, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted By Anachron
You seem to have a habit of "making mistakes".

But thanks for confirming that you possess the reading comprehension of a five year old.

"I saw a name that started with a B" just fukin LOL.
It's likely different from your perspective.

As an experiment, try making a post where you say you've been vaccinated and see if you can keep track of the negs.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's likely different from your perspective.

As an experiment, try making a post where you say you've been vaccinated and see if you can keep track of the negs.
I've admitted multiple times now to getting vaxxed (to keep my job) and haven't gotten a single neg for it. I've had some call me a "pussy", "cuck", or the like, but not negged...there's probably some additional factors and differences in our conduct...
post 1650861933 11-15-2021, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted By Polaris
I've admitted multiple times now to getting vaxxed (to keep my job) and haven't gotten a single neg for it. I've had some call me a "pussy", "cuck", or the like, but not negged...there's probably some additional factors and differences in our conduct...
Very likely
post 1650862243 11-15-2021, 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It seems to be his position that he outlined in his manifesto:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/co...vanden-bossche
A global catastrophe /= the end of mankind as a species.





Also, from the article you linked:




While scientists don’t yet know exactly what levels of antibodies are needed to ward off disease, the approved vaccines do elicit the production of neutralizing antibodies. Meanwhile, a small study published in The Lancet showed that giving people who had never had COVID-19 a single dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine resulted in them making similar levels of anti-spike protein antibodies as individuals who had had COVID-19 but had not yet been vaccinated. A study of the Moderna vaccine in 34 participants showed “high levels of binding and neutralizing antibodies that declined slightly over time, as expected, but [that] remained elevated in all participants three months after the booster vaccination.” More broadly, data from the vaccine clinical trials and from countries that have vaccinated a large percentage of their population show a significant reduction in cases and mortality. The vaccines are working.


That was from March



Now we see that 2021 will be worse for the pandemic than 2020 despite rolling out billions of vaccines. The guy in the video you linked said that the vaccines are a critical tool to be used in this fight. So why are our numbers even worse now?







Also from that article


But what about asymptomatic transmission? Many vaccines prevent transmission of the virus from person to person, and there is mounting evidence that the COVID-19 vaccines do as well. Even if they don’t prevent all transmissions, it looks like they can drastically cut the transmission chain and also reduce the amount of virus that can be transmitted in these cases. Dr. Bossche’s idea that the coronavirus will simply continue moving from person to person and that vaccines will only prevent severe disease is contradicted by the data that is accumulating.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
All he has done so far is attack the person, and one so in a dishonest way so it would be impossible or me to take him seriously.
Shocking that J.L.C would find that style of speaking compelling.
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post 1650862803 11-15-2021, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
This zdogg moron is a stupid lib cuck. He's been wrong about everything but libs/cucks love him.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I'm not following.If the conspiracy is true, wouldn't the government be more apt to mandate if less people took them?

Who gets to decide who has a good reason to be vaccinated?
You're a fookin idiot or a liar. I'm going with both. I will not waste time to explain to you like you're 5.
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post 1650863093 11-15-2021, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By tendies
I don't get why boosters are some big "gotcha" for anti-vaxxers. People get the flu shot every season. I guess that means the flu vaccine doesn't work?

BTW this is coming from someone who has never gotten a flu vaccine or the covid vaccine (young and healthy so don't feel I need them). I just don't get people like OP who have made being an anti vaxxer/masker their whole identity.
Its a huge "gotcha" just for the reason you stated right there, its more like a flu shot than a vaccine such as polio or measles which eradicate viruses. Flu shots people decide to get each year or not and no one cares if someone has it or not. You don't hear people telling eachother they need to get the flu shot to saves lives. Why? Well because that would be a lie and everyone knows it.

While the flu vaccine "works" to an extent depending on the strains each year. It is taken by choice for your personal protection against the flu and isn't sold as a way to eradicate the flu virus and save those around you. But for COVID-19 everything is different and we have to pretend that lies are true, and the polio vaccine is the same as a yearly flu shot.
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big pharma copying the business model that big tech have used - monthly subscriptions. But in this case, booster every 6 months
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Originally Posted By ThaRoostah
Its a huge "gotcha" just for the reason you stated right there, its more like a flu shot than a vaccine such as polio or measles which eradicate viruses. Flu shots people decide to get each year or not and no one cares if someone has it or not. You don't hear people telling eachother they need to get the flu shot to saves lives? Why? Well because that would be a lie and everyone knows it.
This. Either we stop pretending we can get rid of covid and admit that it will circulate forever(at which point you can use the flu shot comparison), or we keep acting like we can get rid of it(at which point you have have to admit the injections will not help us with that goal). Can’t have it both ways.
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Lol Vaccines will save us, but lets bring out $700 antiviral pills and pretend Ivermectin does not work....when all the meta studies show it does
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
A global catastrophe /= the end of mankind as a species.





Also, from the article you linked:




While scientists don’t yet know exactly what levels of antibodies are needed to ward off disease, the approved vaccines do elicit the production of neutralizing antibodies. Meanwhile, a small study published in The Lancet showed that giving people who had never had COVID-19 a single dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine resulted in them making similar levels of anti-spike protein antibodies as individuals who had had COVID-19 but had not yet been vaccinated. A study of the Moderna vaccine in 34 participants showed “high levels of binding and neutralizing antibodies that declined slightly over time, as expected, but [that] remained elevated in all participants three months after the booster vaccination.” More broadly, data from the vaccine clinical trials and from countries that have vaccinated a large percentage of their population show a significant reduction in cases and mortality. The vaccines are working.


That was from March



Now we see that 2021 will be worse for the pandemic than 2020 despite rolling out billions of vaccines. The guy in the video you linked said that the vaccines are a critical tool to be used in this fight. So why are our numbers even worse now?
Which numbers are worse now? Deaths and hospitalizations are better where I am.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
Lol Vaccines will save us, but lets bring out $700 antiviral pills and pretend Ivermectin does not work....when all the meta studies show it does
Can you link those meta analyses?

Several were retracted and others are inconclusive.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01535-y
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Can you link those meta analyses?

Several were retracted and others are inconclusive.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01535-y
oh fck off , i do not wish to speak or respond to you
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Can't to get my third jab and then call out all the scumbags who only have two jabs. Might even try and get them fired from their jobs for putting our lives at risk.
How dare you!

Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner.

LTC
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth
oh fck off , i do not wish to speak or respond to you
Saying all the "meta studies" showed ivermectin works is untrue.
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ah yes, Misc, the last bastion of the antivaxxers
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https://odysee.com/@BretWeinstein:f/TessLawrie:0



Tess Lawrie is an MD and PHD, external analyst for the World Health Organization, and an expert in analysis of medical evidence.


take the time to watch and learn
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Saying all the "meta studies" showed ivermectin works is untrue.
what is about fck off , i do not wish to speak or respond to you....that you fail to comprehend?
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