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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
What if it's actually because when you're "dating" online, pretty much the only thing women can judge you on is physical attributes whereas in-person, you can show off other desirable traits that make your physical shortcomings (pun intended) less of a dealbreaker?
You're a fuking madman!
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
There you go. Once they're tired of pump and dumps, swoop in.
Some simps are happy cuffing the town bicycle but not anyone with dignity
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Some simps are happy cuffing the town bicycle but not anyone with dignity
Hope your dignity sucks you off at night and tells you it loves you then.
I'm back, bitches!
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
What if it's actually because when you're "dating" online, pretty much the only thing women can judge you on is physical attributes whereas in-person, you can show off other desirable traits that make your physical shortcomings (pun intended) less of a dealbreaker?
Except looks are important to every woman whether she's online or not. The difference is with online she can afford to have way higher looks standards in general
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Hope your dignity sucks you off at night and tells you it loves you then.
A used up sloot wouldn't love you either and won't do what she did for Tyrone under the sheets.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Except looks are important to every woman whether she's online or not. The difference is with online she can afford to have way higher looks standards in general
I think you missed the "other desirable traits" part
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Originally Posted By wildchild11
god fukking damn it op
Where's cope killer? Get him in here he the only other one that's woke out here
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
I think you missed the "other desirable traits" part
a man with desirable traits that she isn't attracted to physically is called a friend. I've been that friend my entire life, I should know
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
a man with desirable traits that she isn't attracted to physically is called a friend. I've been that friend my entire life, I should know
Who are you to assume what every woman is attracted to?
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Who are you to assume what every woman is attracted to?
There are exceptions and fetishes out there but by and large Women all want the same thing, which is why for example online the 80-20 rule plays out.

Its not new, women all want 6 6 6 with a good looking face.

The further you are away from that the less attractive you are
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
There are exceptions and fetishes out there but by and large Women all want the same thing, which is why for example online the 80-20 rule plays out.
Exactly. And you won't know who actually likes or doesn't mind short guys if you always assume defeat right from the gate. Women very rarely approach, so it's just gonna be a big numbers game until you find one that wants to grab your little ass and toss you around.

If you don't want to play the game, no amount of advice really matters. And the most important advice is to generally not be a miserable azzhole.
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I used to think our resident twink miscer imbored21 was the whiniest forum member but Opie has definitely taken the cake. In reality there's 5'5" thugmaxxed, unemployed Jeromes juggling multiple 6's and 7's Staceys, creampie-ing them every day all the while Opie cries and whines that there's no women available. Pathetic. Be glad you're not still in Africa digging up rare earth metals in the mines to help make liberals feel better about themselves and their clean energy cars. Be glad you're not stuck in a wheelchair with a nonfunctional dink. Lay off the interwebs and go get some fresh air. Or maybe take a trip down to Mexico or Columbia and fukc your frustrations away with the local ladies -- that might put some much needed test back into your system.
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Originally Posted By Muzzlrpress
Exactly. And you won't know who actually likes or doesn't mind short guys if you always assume defeat right from the gate. Women very rarely approach, so it's just gonna be a big numbers game until you find one that wants to grab your little ass and toss you around.

If you don't want to play the game, no amount of advice really matters. And the most important advice is to generally not be a miserable azzhole.
Its not just someone that doesn't mind short guys. Its someone that doesn't mind extremely short guys, someone that likes black guys, someone that likes African black guys, someone that likes nerds etc etc

By the time you break it down my odds are near zero. My current hit rate online is 1 every 5 years WITH height fraud. My hit rate in real life is 0
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Originally Posted By homersexual
I used to think our resident twink miscer imbored21 was the whiniest forum member but Opie has definitely taken the cake. In reality there's 5'5" thugmaxxed, unemployed Jeromes juggling multiple 6's and 7's Staceys, creampie-ing them every day all the while Opie cries and whines that there's no women available. Pathetic. Be glad you're not still in Africa digging up rare earth metals in the mines to help make liberals feel better about themselves and their clean energy cars. Be glad you're not stuck in a wheelchair with a nonfunctional dink. Lay off the interwebs and go get some fresh air. Or maybe take a trip down to Mexico or Columbia and fukc your frustrations away with the local ladies -- that might put some much needed test back into your system.
alpha thugmaxxers are absolutely part of the problem especially for black guys. Women love bad boys and get ran through by them in their 20s.

Very few men are even as short as 5'5 or below but misc thinks they're everywhere banging hoards of women 🙄
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Except looks are important to every woman whether she's online or not. The difference is with online she can afford to have way higher looks standards in general
Bro, you got excuses for everything it seems. I totally get being 5'3 is an EXTREMELY tough hand to be dealt and people here saying "just try harder bro" aren't helpful when you're literally shorter than the average woman at that point, but you're still way too fixated on looks and don't realize there's a lot of other things you could/frankly need to be doing to be competitive in the dating market. Yeah, you won't be the sexiest guy in the room probably ever at 5'3, but you could still have the best physique, be the most charismatic/funniest, make the most money, etc. Why not focus on those things and aim for foreign/shorter women for whom your height is less of an issue instead of whining about it on the misc? Dating is tough even for manmores nowadays (I know two 6'3 guys one who is a confirmed virgin, the other who is super weird socially and probably never fks despite being the tallest person in the room) and the fact is you have to be exceptional as a guy nowadays to get quality female attention - end of story.

I totally understand that genetics matter in the sense that they limit your max potential. Me being born to parents who are 5'4/5'2 and unathletic means it's EXTREMELY improbable I'd be a D1 athlete, but that doesn't mean I can't be stronger and faster than 80% of the general population. Yeah, I won't ever be elite or likely the best athlete in the room, but I can still do really, really well with some work because the baseline average is so low and people rarely max their potential. Similarly, you won't be fking Alexandra Daddario because of your genetics, but that doesn't mean you are destined to be an incel on the misc either. Man up a bit, dude.
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
Bro, you got excuses for everything it seems. I totally get being 5'3 is an EXTREMELY tough hand to be dealt and people here saying "just try harder bro" aren't helpful when you're literally shorter than the average woman at that point, but you're still way too fixated on looks and don't realize there's a lot of other things you could/frankly need to be doing to be competitive in the dating market. Yeah, you won't be the sexiest guy in the room probably ever at 5'3, but you could still have the best physique, be the most charismatic/funniest, make the most money, etc. Why not focus on those things and aim for foreign/shorter women for whom your height is less of an issue instead of whining about it on the misc? Dating is tough even for manmores nowadays (I know two 6'3 guys one who is a confirmed virgin, the other who is super weird socially and probably never fks despite being the tallest person in the room) and the fact is you have to be exceptional as a guy nowadays to get quality female attention - end of story.

I totally understand that genetics matter in the sense that they limit your max potential. Me being born to parents who are 5'4/5'2 and unathletic means it's EXTREMELY improbable I'd be a D1 athlete, but that doesn't mean I can't be stronger and faster than 80% of the general population. Yeah, I won't ever be elite or likely the best athlete in the room, but I can still do really, really well with some work because the baseline average is so low and people rarely max their potential. Similarly, you won't be fking Alexandra Daddario because of your genetics, but that doesn't mean you are destined to be an incel on the misc either. Man up a bit, dude.
Appreciate at least acknowledging my situation for what it is.

But To me what you're saying is " just focus on becoming super man just so maybe a few mediocre women will give you a chance after they're ran through and used".

It just doesn't make sense man. Stress myself to the bone trying to get rich or build some body instead of doing what I actually want to in life? Just to maybe get some puzzy?

That's not a good option either. I suppose some suckers do that, dedicate their whole life going out of their way just to try to get some fat chicks attention but that doesn't make sense to me.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
It just doesn't make sense man. Stress myself to the bone trying to get rich or build some bodyinstead of doing what I actually want to in life? Just to maybe get some puzzy?
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This is where I think you're phucking up big time. Your mentality shouldn't be, "aww phuck, I have to do all this just to get laid". Your mentality should be, "I'm trying to be the best at what I enjoy doing anyway and a woman who is worthwhile will recognize my talent and want to join me for the ride".

I doubt Kevin Hart, who is probably similar height as you and black as well, said, "aww ****, I have to be a world famous comedian just to get laid". He probably had a passion for comedy/acting, strived to be the best he could at it, somehow despite being unfunny as phuck hit it big and now probably can date plenty of women who are taller than him by virtue of having status.

Obviously, it's not reasonable for me to say, "just go be Kevin Hart and everything will be k" but you can still be a solid comedian in your town/your local venue, for example, with some hard work. Even those guys get women, despite some of them being butt ugly, because, again, women are attracted to status more than just looks. Apply that same analogy to whatever you enjoy doing, irrespective of pussy, and that's seriously how you should be approaching life.

The common theme I'm showing is that guys have to STAND OUT or HAVE STATUS to have a good dating/sex life nowadays. The bar for standing out has definitely increased, but again, unless your goal is peak status women, it's not THAT hard to stand out either with work. Genetics alone aren't an excuse for what most people need to achieve to have a reasonably happy life in most dimensions. You don't need to be Kevin Hart to get your run-of-the-mill cute girl.
That's not a good option either. I suppose some suckers do that, dedicate their whole life going out of their way just to try to get some fat chicks attention but that doesn't make sense to me
It does suck, but unfortunately, your option is to pretty much do what I said or opt out of the game/stop chasing women. That's the game the world plays now - adapt or figuratively die. Period. I don't like being 5'7 either and that being a deal breaker for many women, but that doesn't mean I stop living my life or give up on women, assuming I want a serious relationship, either. I don't have good genes in any respect, but I'm still doing really phucking well in life (top 5-7% income, top 3% wealth for my age group, stronger & more athletic than most, etc.) because I work really phucking hard, don't give up, and am also humble enough to understand where my limitations are and have made peace with them.

Yeah dude, it's theoretically unfair that some dudes are born with height & good looks. One of my friends is a 6'1 and a quintessentially good ol' southern boy who'd get wrecked by my short azz in a fight or in the gym. Despite the fact that I eat well, lift 5-6x times a week, do cardio, avoid alcohol, etc., he'll ALWAYS pull more women than me just because he has good genes without putting any effort. You can't be bitter about this and just have to accept that you were dealt a 2-7 off suite while others have a pocket rocket. The odds are stacked a bit against you, but you can still potentially win the game with some clever maneuvering and a bit of luck. Either accept that this is what you must do, or opt out. Whining about it won't do anything, unless you literally dedicate your life toward lobbying the Government to ban social media/OLD.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
a man with desirable traits that she isn't attracted to physically is called a friend. I've been that friend my entire life, I should know
Why is this thread still going?

You and the rest of the mistakes should just fuk off back to your moms basements and wait out the rest of your lives alone. 11 pages of you just whining about how unfair it is that you’re ugly and women don’t like you won’t change the fact that you’re ugly and women don’t like you. Your negative mindset and defeatist attitude will ruin any opportunity you might have before it’s even presented itself.
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
I don't like being 5'7 either and that being a deal breaker for many women, but that doesn't mean I stop living my life or give up on women, assuming I want a serious relationship, either. I don't have good genes in any respect, but I'm still doing really phucking well in life (top 5-7% income, top 3% wealth for my age group, stronger & more athletic than most, etc.) because I work really phucking hard, don't give up, and am also humble enough to understand where my limitations are and have made peace with them.

Yeah dude, it's theoretically unfair that some dudes are born with height & good looks. One of my friends is a 6'1 and a quintessentially good ol' southern boy who'd get wrecked by my short azz in a fight or in the gym. Despite the fact that I eat well, lift 5-6x times a week, do cardio, avoid alcohol, etc., he'll ALWAYS pull more women than me just because he has good genes without putting any effort. You can't be bitter about this and just have to accept that you were dealt a 2-7 off suite while others have a pocket rocket. The odds are stacked a bit against you, but you can still potentially win the game with some clever maneuvering and a bit of luck. Either accept that this is what you must do, or opt out. Whining about it won't do anything, unless you literally dedicate your life toward lobbying the Government to ban social media/OLD.
This.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
just to try to get some fat chicks attention but that doesn't make sense to me.
Would you date a fat chick?

Like 200lbs fat, not 400lbs fat

Cause 80% of american women are fat. Why do you think you deserve a top 20% woman? (srs q is srs)
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal
This is where I think you're phucking up big time. Your mentality shouldn't be, "aww phuck, I have to do all this just to get laid". Your mentality should be, "I'm trying to be the best at what I enjoy doing anyway and a woman who is worthwhile will recognize my talent and want to join me for the ride".

I doubt Kevin Hart, who is probably similar height as you and black as well, said, "aww ****, I have to be a world famous comedian just to get laid". He probably had a passion for comedy/acting, strived to be the best he could at it, somehow despite being unfunny as phuck hit it big and now probably can date plenty of women who are taller than him by virtue of having status.

Obviously, it's not reasonable for me to say, "just go be Kevin Hart and everything will be k" but you can still be a solid comedian in your town/your local venue, for example, with some hard work. Even those guys get women, despite some of them being butt ugly, because, again, women are attracted to status more than just looks. Apply that same analogy to whatever you enjoy doing, irrespective of pussy, and that's seriously how you should be approaching life.

The common theme I'm showing is that guys have to STAND OUT or HAVE STATUS to have a good dating/sex life nowadays. The bar for standing out has definitely increased, but again, unless your goal is peak status women, it's not THAT hard to stand out either with work. Genetics alone aren't an excuse for what most people need to achieve to have a reasonably happy life in most dimensions. You don't need to be Kevin Hart to get your run-of-the-mill cute girl.



It does suck, but unfortunately, your option is to pretty much do what I said or opt out of the game/stop chasing women. That's the game the world plays now - adapt or figuratively die. Period. I don't like being 5'7 either and that being a deal breaker for many women, but that doesn't mean I stop living my life or give up on women, assuming I want a serious relationship, either. I don't have good genes in any respect, but I'm still doing really phucking well in life (top 5-7% income, top 3% wealth for my age group, stronger & more athletic than most, etc.) because I work really phucking hard, don't give up, and am also humble enough to understand where my limitations are and have made peace with them.

Yeah dude, it's theoretically unfair that some dudes are born with height & good looks. One of my friends is a 6'1 and a quintessentially good ol' southern boy who'd get wrecked by my short azz in a fight or in the gym. Despite the fact that I eat well, lift 5-6x times a week, do cardio, avoid alcohol, etc., he'll ALWAYS pull more women than me just because he has good genes without putting any effort. You can't be bitter about this and just have to accept that you were dealt a 2-7 off suite while others have a pocket rocket. The odds are stacked a bit against you, but you can still potentially win the game with some clever maneuvering and a bit of luck. Either accept that this is what you must do, or opt out. Whining about it won't do anything, unless you literally dedicate your life toward lobbying the Government to ban social media/OLD.
So the thing is I'm mostly content in life other than being an incel. So when you say " go out and do all this stuff to be more impressive to women", I don't care about any of the things you're saying. The only reason I would do any of that bs is for used up puzzy and don't really think that makes sense.

I was a great soccer player for my entire life and it never made a difference. I loved soccer. Played in high school college and then played in some leagues as an adult, pick up etc.

No woman has ever given a chit about that. Never pulled any chick just because I'm a relatively good soccer player.

The things I like to do are not relevant whatsoever to women or dating.
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Originally Posted By Vhagar
Why is this thread still going?

You and the rest of the mistakes should just fuk off back to your moms basements and wait out the rest of your lives alone. 11 pages of you just whining about how unfair it is that you’re ugly and women don’t like you won’t change the fact that you’re ugly and women don’t like you. Your negative mindset and defeatist attitude will ruin any opportunity you might have before it’s even presented itself.
Its still going because people are commenting just like you.

This thread was supposed to be about the article I posted in the op. But as usual almost everyone just started spewing useless garbage advice and getting mad when I told them why it was useless. Which ironically is what the article was about
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Originally Posted By SaviorSelfJT
Would you date a fat chick?

Like 200lbs fat, not 400lbs fat

Cause 80% of american women are fat. Why do you think you deserve a top 20% woman? (srs q is srs)
No I wouldn't, because I'm not fat. If you're in shape and take care of yourself you shouldn't settle with someone who doesn't out of desperation
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
No I wouldn't, because I'm not fat. If you're in shape and take care of yourself you shouldn't settle with someone who doesn't out of desperation
So save all your biden bucks and travel to SE Asia if you want attractive thin women who don't care if you're black änd short. Get on that third world pussy.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972
So save all your biden bucks and travel to SE Asia if you want attractive thin women who don't care if you're black änd short. Get on that third world pussy.
Asians are racist af. Unless you're referring to straight up hookers?
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee
Except looks are important to every woman whether she's online or not. The difference is with online she can afford to have way higher looks standards in general
If looks were the only factor determining whether you get laid or not, how are people like Kevin Hart and Lil Wayne still getting puss?
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OP is correct.

I’ve been on dozens upon dozens of dates in clown world. Sometimes punching above my weight, but most of the time dating girls who are my looksmatch.

I’n 6’1-6’2, pretty jacked, have clear skin, financially secure and I guess an average personality. And let me tell you - I’m not getting enough success that it’s worth the effort. I can go months without even kissing a girl despite going on dates every week.

I know plenty of guys in their 20s who have literally never even kissed a girl, let alone had girlfriends or sex. These are average looking guys with jobs and healthy social circles. It used to be almost unheard of, but now it seems to be common thanks to womens’ ever increasing standards and ever shortening attention spans. Heck even when things seem to be going well with a girl she will tend to monkeybranch. Between that and trying to keep her interested…..Dating in clown world just doesn’t seem worth it anymore
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
If looks were the only factor determining whether you get laid or not, how are people like Kevin Hart and Lil Wayne still getting puss?
Because they're just short, not autism like OP.
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Originally Posted By kingmanaverage
If looks were the only factor determining whether you get laid or not, how are people like Kevin Hart and Lil Wayne still getting puss?
massive fame and fortune can make up for it obviously. inb4 just become a one of the best rappers or comedians in the world
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Originally Posted By Ironface
OP is correct.

I’ve been on dozens upon dozens of dates in clown world. Sometimes punching above my weight, but most of the time dating girls who are my looksmatch.

I’n 6’1-6’2, pretty jacked, have clear skin, financially secure and I guess an average personality. And let me tell you - I’m not getting enough success that it’s worth the effort. I can go months without even kissing a girl despite going on dates every week.

I know plenty of guys in their 20s who have literally never even kissed a girl, let alone had girlfriends or sex. These are average looking guys with jobs and healthy social circles. It used to be almost unheard of, but now it seems to be common thanks to womens’ ever increasing standards and ever shortening attention spans. Heck even when things seem to be going well with a girl she will tend to monkeybranch. Between that and trying to keep her interested…..Dating in clown world just doesn’t seem worth it anymore
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