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post 1650981293 11-17-2021, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted By wd0694820⏩
do you think top 5% wealth is enough to compensate for being that short? hes like bottom percentile height
yes, of course. Girls wont get wet at the sight of him, but taking them shopping will at least relax their legs lol. Lets be brutally honest here.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I dunno, I just can't agree with the finality of this message. From a practical perspective there is just simply no way sub 7 women, at least the ones who aren't complete retards, are going to remain in the endless cock-carousel sleeping with chads that will never, ever be their bf much less proposing to them. I feel it's only logical to assume that once the widespread novelty of the chad-cock carousel will wear off, a more balanced and realistic sentiment will proliferate and bring some balance to the dating landscape.

I think right now we're in the worst of it in terms of shallow-dating but the bubble is going to burst for those sub-7s and that's wheresuper-incels like BigBallsMcgee will be able to rise up and re-integrate themselves back into the relationship world. Or at least that's my theory.
Super incels will never rise up because they've already defeated themselves before they enter the ring, which is kind of what we keep telling OP. Yes, the deck is stacked against him, but he's SO fixated on physical attraction that he won't even attempt to better himself in other categories to give himself a puncher's chance. It's one thing if OP told me that he's a top 5% income guy with a huge friends circle, is excellent gym shape (not a competing bodybuilder but at least regularly gets comments on his physique), etc. and still can't score. That's when people would have more sympathy for the guy because he at that point literally has tried everything but still can't and is just genetically incapable. Since incels won't even try, they'll never make it. Your theory probably is correct, however, in that dudes who are currently average or maybe just slightly above average looks and getting passed over will have their shot later on once women are ready to settle after failing to land "Chad".
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I dunno, I just can't agree with the finality of this message. From a practical perspective there is just simply no way sub 7 women, at least the ones who aren't complete retards, are going to remain in the endless cock-carousel sleeping with chads that will never, ever be their bf much less proposing to them. I feel it's only logical to assume that once the widespread novelty of the chad-cock carousel will wear off, a more balanced and realistic sentiment will proliferate and bring some balance to the dating landscape.

I think right now we're in the worst of it in terms of shallow-dating but the bubble is going to burst for those sub-7s and that's where super-incels like BigBallsMcgee will be able to rise up and re-integrate themselves back into the relationship world. Or at least that's my theory.
In fairness to OP’s point these women you’re referring to have hundreds of millions of men to select from and settle on before they make their way down to the incels.

OP and his garbage tier brethren just need to accept that they may not be able to achieve their goal of finding love no matter how much they try to stack to the deck. The reality for these men is they need to find a way to try and enjoy what they can do with their life. And maybe hold out hope that once they achieve some level of satisfaction and happiness with their lives their attitudes and demeanor change to the point that someone might take a shot on them.

What they want to happen is some sort of worldwide reckoning where the rest of us men collectively disregard women until they all adjust their values in men to the point incels have something as desirable as our height, looks, personalities, or money. But that’s not realistic.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
I dunno, I just can't agree with the finality of this message. From a practical perspective there is just simply no way sub 7 women, at least the ones who aren't complete retards, are going to remain in the endless cock-carousel sleeping with chads that will never, ever be their bf much less proposing to them. I feel it's only logical to assume that once the widespread novelty of the chad-cock carousel will wear off, a more balanced and realistic sentiment will proliferate and bring some balance to the dating landscape.

I think right now we're in the worst of it in terms of shallow-dating but the bubble is going to burst for those sub-7s and that's where super-incels like BigBallsMcgee will be able to rise up and re-integrate themselves back into the relationship world. Or at least that's my theory.
yeah man, but theres 2 problems with this

1) OP may not want a sloot that has been fuked by multiple top tier genetic men, that will never end well
2) As women start going down the list looking for men to commit, sadly there will be many average/slightly above average looking dudes willing to comit before women get to OPs turn, this is because 0% of women want short kids.


Being brutally honest will help OP more than just tell him to man up IMO. I feel empathy towards him, i really do. Thats why i think he should become a shark, make tons of money, get fitter etc of course just so he can at least get some positives on his side, but ultimately, he should lead with his money when chasing women. Be upfront and bold about it, listen ill take you to tulum, greek islands, whatever, just be fukin direct about it.

He aint getting an organic relationship with a decent looking woman from looks alone.


If he were 5'7"-5'9", yeah id probably give different advice, although same principles. But 5'3", man you gotta admit thats a bad fukin hand, incredibly hard to play. Cant fault OP for not being able to win with that hand, in fact if he scored a nice looking chick, id fukin praise him for it, hed deserve respect from all men, because itd be really rare.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Just lol at the delusion. Society has not always had this many men dying alone, never getting married or anything.

But go on, keep dismissing it. Don't get mad when Society collapses because men won't work
It did if you go deeper in the past, in the days when a warlord of a tribe had access to all women, or kings had harems, etc. But of course those societies weren't stable either.
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
this **** is giving me access denied bull****


edit: all right


If OP is really an average looking/ugly midget, i dont see any confidence/attitude advice working for him, that ship has sailed. His mentality is the result of a lifetime of rejections, or not even getting the chance to get rejected because his chances of open to approach women must be extremely slim. Probably dont ever make eye contact with him.


I can only imagine how that feels.
Too many people overlook this chit. Personally I love women because why wouldn't I? 99% of all interactions I've had with them have been positive. Hell, even when women did shoot me down it was always in a nice way. If women looked at me like I was subhuman and brutally rejected me every time I tried to approach one I'd probably hate them too lol
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
yeah man, but theres 2 problems with this

1) OP may not want a sloot that has been fuked by multiple top tier genetic men, that will never end well
2) As women start going down the list looking for men to commit, sadly there will be many average/slightly above average looking dudes willing to comit before women get to OPs turn, this is because 0% of women want short kids.


Being brutally honest will help OP more than just tell him to man up IMO. I feel empathy towards him, i really do. Thats why i think he should become a shark, make tons of money, get fitter etc of course just so he can at least get some positives on his side, but ultimately, he should lead with his money when chasing women. Be upfront and bold about it, listen ill take you to tulum, greek islands, whatever, just be fukin direct about it.

He aint getting an organic relationship with a decent looking woman from looks alone.


If he were 5'7"-5'9", yeah id probably give different advice, although same principles. But 5'3", man you gotta admit thats a bad fukin hand, incredibly hard to play. Cant fault OP for not being able to win with that hand, in fact if he scored a nice looking chick, id fukin praise him for it, hed deserve respect from all men, because itd be really rare.
yes. that is the point. everybody knows he can't do anything about being 5'5 or 5'3 but he has to do everything in order to overcome that. that is the point

what good does the attention that he's getting about 5'5 being a poor thing other than reinforcing hes unfortunate? so what? there are people more unfortunate than him as well - and i know you're going to think that' tangential, but it's not really. he can still do a lot

it really is all about perspective though. it is obvious he chooses to place a lot of emphasis on sex out of desperation but who's really more powerful in life jeff bezos or some "chad"?

jeff bezos is actually 5'7 and i know y'all are going to say look at the recent decaprio **** but again realize i said Powerful in LIFE. i didnt say who's more attractive.

but in reality jeff bezos has a lot more power to do what he wants than some "chad". to people who choose to focus on attraction being the be all end all.. then yea, but again, that's a matter of perspective. because, again, in reality jeff bezos has a lot more power to do a lot more things
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
yeah man, but theres 2 problems with this

1) OP may not want a sloot that has been fuked by multiple top tier genetic men, that will never end well
Almost any girl you marry will have fuked a man that's genetically superior. That's the statistical probability, even for you. It is what it is. This is an insecurity almost everyone just has to get over.
2) As women start going down the list looking for men to commit, sadly there will be many average/slightly above average looking dudes willing to comit before women get to OPs turn, this is because 0% of women want short kids.
Sure, but as you note below a person is a sum of many traits. Non-autistic people (unlike most of us on this forum) don't tend to explicitly weigh each trait up like a mathematical formula. They naturally assess a potential partner in a holistic way.

Being short, being broke, lacking humor, lacking confidence, lacking status -- none are good traits. But many can be improved or controlled to some degree.
Being brutally honest will help OP more than just tell him to man up IMO. I feel empathy towards him, i really do. Thats why i think he should become a shark, make tons of money, get fitter etc of course just so he can at least get some positives on his side, but ultimately, he should lead with his money when chasing women. Be upfront and bold about it, listen ill take you to tulum, greek islands, whatever, just be fukin direct about it.

He aint getting an organic relationship with a decent looking woman from looks alone.

If he were 5'7"-5'9", yeah id probably give different advice, although same principles. But 5'3", man you gotta admit thats a bad fukin hand, incredibly hard to play. Cant fault OP for not being able to win with that hand, in fact if he scored a nice looking chick, id fukin praise him for it, hed deserve respect from all men, because itd be really rare.
I agree. I've straight up admitted that OP legit has it more difficult than most. And people shouldn't automatically project their own situation onto his.

But, back to the point. OP can legit improve his chances if he maxes out his physique, his style, his $$$, his social status.

Those are facts that OP still denies will make a difference.

In the pic I saw, he was wearing oversize clothing and could do a lot of work on his physique. He's also not in top 1-2% of income/worth. Lots of room to improve.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Too many people overlook this chit. Personally I love women because why wouldn't I? 99% of all interactions I've had with them have been positive. Hell, even when women did shoot me down it was always in a nice way. If women looked at me like I was subhuman and brutally rejected me every time I tried to approach one I'd probably hate them too lol
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
Too many people overlook this chit. Personally I love women because why wouldn't I? 99% of all interactions I've had with them have been positive. Hell, even when women did shoot me down it was always in a nice way. If women looked at me like I was subhuman and brutally rejected me every time I tried to approach one I'd probably hate them too lol
youve never been rejected? this is such a fuken myth perpetuated by "chads". every "chad" ive ever known also knows what its like to be rejected

im not saying you but if you ever actually approached or interacted with women surely youve come across one who just broke up with her bf or is otherwise in a bad mood for whatever reason.

ive been brutally rejected too. ive been laughed at in my face or approaching a chick. ive also fuked a girl after asking one question and had a girl sucking my finger on the phone that i wanted nothing to do with

thick skin

you have to understand also that if you don't let things affect you that lots of other people would be affected by they may start to wonder..

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Some solid back and forth and actual thoughtful opinions.

A few things I saw referenced a few times, I never said I have no room to improve myself. I'm not rich for example, but getting rich isn't just like a decision lol I'd have to restructure my entire life around the pursuit of wealth to maybe succeed at some point in life. That doesn't make sense .

Realistically there's not much someone like me can do that will make a difference. I'd have to be rich or famous or something extraordinary. Even if i tried the obvious overwhelming odds is I'd never achieve that.


We need to be honest about it and discuss solutions as a society. My situation isn't rare anymore. A lot of better looking guys than me are struggling out there
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LOL @ the vapid dingbats who don't like short men, that's like us saying 'no fat chicks.' We have that right to decide who we aren't ever attracted to, but it's best to keep it to ourselves.
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Originally Posted By BigTimeOperator⏩
LOL @ the vapid dingbats who don't like short men, that's like us saying 'no fat chicks.' We have that right to decide who we aren't ever attracted to, but it's best to keep it to ourselves.
Its always open season on short men. Nobody cares about us
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
the solution is WHORES you incessant gollum
What if you can't afford it?

We need to legalize and subsidize hookers for incels. A few visits a year on government dime
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Some solid back and forth and actual thoughtful opinions.

A few things I saw referenced a few times, I never said I have no room to improve myself. I'm not rich for example, but getting rich isn't just like a decision lol I'd have to restructure my entire life around the pursuit of wealth to maybe succeed at some point in life. That doesn't make sense .

Realistically there's not much someone like me can do that will make a difference. I'd have to be rich or famous or something extraordinary. Even if i tried the obvious overwhelming odds is I'd never achieve that.


We need to be honest about it anddiscuss solutions as a society. My situation isn't rare anymore. A lot of better looking guys than me are struggling out there
Dawg, we've all discussed the solution with you ad-nauseum. The solution is that you need to be extraordinary because you're not just deficient but SEVERELY deficient in an important criteria for women. End of story. I'm deficient in height too, have accepted that, and have painstakingly worked toward being relatively extraordinary in other aspects to make myself competitive in the dating market. Certain people still write me off for being short, and that's where my potential is capped, but the choice is either wallow in self-pity that a small fraction of the world will write anything I achieve off as a "Napoleon Complex" or accept that I won't be bedding Margot Robbie but can still live a fulfilling, successful life despite being short.

It's pretty clear at this point from your posts that you don't want to put in the work (i.e. "getting rich isn't just like a decision lol I'd have to restructure my entire life around the pursuit of wealth to maybe succeed at some point in life") and want some politician to redistribute pussy like they redistribute taxes from the "rich" or something. If you're not willing to accept that it's going to take A LOT of work for you to make women wet, there's nothing left to discuss. You need some combination of hard work, lowering your standards a phuck ton, or moving on with your life and finding happiness some other way. Even if other incels on this misc want to comiserate with you, fact is they can't change chit either, so there's nothing further to discuss.

Pro-tip: having thousands of posts on the misc in a 4 year period isn't going to solve your problems or bring you closer to getting where you want to be either.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
What if you can't afford it?

We need to legalize and subsidize hookers for incels. A few visits a year on government dime
Come to Mexico brah, youll get to bang the hottest women youve seen for 150 the session. 2 one-week trips per year and you will be golden. Just get into competitive gaming or something for the other 50 weeks of the year lol
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Sometimes you just gotta relax and enjoy life mayne. Lift, study, career/job, have a drink or two (if you drink), fap, go to the movies, watch your favorite series, etc. Srs brah I get the frustration, but you can’t let this chit get to you. It’s clearly something to work on, but it’s just that; work on what you can control, and you just might meet somebody.
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Originally Posted By imbeingcereal⏩
Dawg, we've all discussed the solution with you ad-nauseum. The solution is that you need to be extraordinary because you're not just deficient but SEVERELY deficient in an important criteria for women. End of story. I'm deficient in height too, have accepted that, and have painstakingly worked toward being relatively extraordinary in other aspects to make myself competitive in the dating market. Certain people still write me off for being short, and that's where my potential is capped, but the choice is either wallow in self-pity that a small fraction of the world will write anything I achieve off as a "Napoleon Complex" or accept that I won't be bedding Margot Robbie but can still live a fulfilling, successful life despite being short.

It's pretty clear at this point from your posts that you don't want to put in the work (i.e. "getting rich isn't just like a decision lol I'd have to restructure my entire life around the pursuit of wealth to maybe succeed at some point in life") and want some politician to redistribute pussy like they redistribute taxes from the "rich" or something. If you're not willing to accept that it's going to take A LOT of work for you to make women wet, there's nothing left to discuss. You need some combination of hard work, lowering your standards a phuck ton, or moving on with your life and finding happiness some other way. Even if other incels on this misc want to comiserate with you, fact is they can't change chit either, so there's nothing further to discuss.

Pro-tip: having thousands of posts on the misc in a 4 year period isn't going to solve your problems or bring you closer to getting where you want to be either.
Well I'm definitely never being extraordinary at anything so giving up us the only option based on what you said. Chasing money i don't really need like mad man just to maybe please a woman who might not even exist? Doesn't make sense.

I don't think the government should redistribute, the example i gave is expanding access to hookers. A fair deal for incels who will shut up and pay taxes in exchange
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Some solid back and forth and actual thoughtful opinions.

A few things I saw referenced a few times, I never said I have no room to improve myself. I'm not rich for example, but getting rich isn't just like a decision lol I'd have to restructure my entire life around the pursuit of wealth to maybe succeed at some point in life. That doesn't make sense .

Realistically there's not much someone like me can do that will make a difference. I'd have to be rich or famous or something extraordinary. Even if i tried the obvious overwhelming odds is I'd never achieve that.


We need to be honest about it and discuss solutions as a society. My situation isn't rare anymore. A lot of better looking guys than me are struggling out there
Originally Posted By NMS3⏩
Sometimes you just gotta relax and enjoy life mayne. Lift, study, career/job, have a drink or two (if you drink), fap, go to the movies, watch your favorite series, etc. Srs brah I get the frustration, but you can’t let this chit get to you. It’s clearly something to work on, but it’s just that; work on what you can control, and you just might meet somebody.
Here is the better advice you’re looking for. The solution is you learning to cope. If whores will help, start writing your congressman to legalize prostitution.

Enjoy what you have access to, and accept that women probably aren’t going to be a part of your life. Experiencing a loving relationship isn’t a human right. While that sucks, the sooner you learn to accept it the better off you’ll be.

The end
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Originally Posted By Ken-O⏩
this **** is giving me access denied bull****


edit: all right


If OP is really an average looking/ugly midget, i dont see any confidence/attitude advice working for him, that ship has sailed. His mentality is the result of a lifetime of rejections, or not even getting the chance to get rejected because his chances of open to approach women must be extremely slim. Probably dont ever make eye contact with him.


I can only imagine how that feels. 10 years ago, when monogamy was still the thing, maybe OP would have had a chance, but right now? Man i wouldnt bet on it, not even after multiple sessions of therapy with the best fukin psychologist in the world. At best i could see him getting an acceptable looking woman, at best. Just saying that for the guys on their 30's saying that they have midget friends with wives. 1) we dont know their marriage dynamics and 2) that was before social media.



My advice to OP would be to get even richer, top 20% wont cut it. Achieve top 5% and just get a hot gold digger, thats the sad reality. Less time on this thread OP, more time making bank.
what OP isnt telling you guys is that he had an AVG PAWG girlfriend that he didnt get a damn about

OP has made multiple threads & posts like this on the misc while being in a relationship SRS

OP wants 8+/10s thats his problem.
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Originally Posted By BigBallsMcgee⏩
Well I'm definitely never being extraordinary at anything so giving up us the only option based on what you said.Chasing money i don't really need like mad man just to maybe please a woman who might not even exist? Doesn't make sense.

I don't think the government should redistribute, the example i gave is expanding access to hookers. A fair deal for incels who will shut up and pay taxes in exchange
On the bolded - see you're again shooting down any solution, which is what I mean when I say it's kind of pointless to discuss solutions because you'll shoot them down no matter what.

Now, to your point about legitimatizing prostitution, I agree with you. If the other posts are accurate and you make 150 Gs per annum (side note, but how are you investing that money? You should be rich as balls on that salary if you're not in NYC/CA), why not start investing that money appropriately so you can either semi-retire early or take a remote gig that will let you work from some country where it's legal? Unless something radically changes, prostitution won't be legal out here in the US. So again, the solutions are:

1. Dedicate your life to "Incel Lives Matter" and lobby the Gov to legalize it in the name of "Men's Suffrage" or whatever

2. Work towards putting yourself in a solution to move somewhere where it is legitimate and would eliminate the biological sex drive that has currently highjacked your day-to-day mental health

Alright, so ball's back in your court now. Which of the proposed solution do you choose to the above?
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Well but you can. You said you made around $150K a year and you have no gf or kids obviously so you have the cash.

And that subsidy would only exist for true incels, not lazy whiners like you.
I don't make anywhere near 150k, much closer to 100k.

I'm a true incel if there ever was one lol it takes me years at a time get laid
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Originally Posted By Vhagar⏩
Here is the better advice you’re looking for. The solution is you learning to cope. If whores will help, start writing your congressman to legalize prostitution.

Enjoy what you have access to, and accept that women probably aren’t going to be a part of your life. Experiencing a loving relationship isn’t a human right. While that sucks, the sooner you learn to accept it the better off you’ll be.

The end
I've tried to just make peace with it for years but I'm coming to the conclusion I can't. I probably ain't gonna make it and I'll end up roping
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