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post 1650988833 11-17-2021, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
Well I also did it for my elderly parents and aunt. I don’t want to give them Covid. I’m sure I’d survive Covid.
Even with vax, you can still get COVID. You can still give them COVID. Getting vaxxed does nothing to prevent you from spreading covid.

The only solution for young healthy people to not spread covid to at risk, elderly or obese people is to die. If you are dead, you can no longer spread covid. BAM! Your elderly parents and aunt are now safe from you.
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post 1650989043 11-17-2021, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Casca
Even with vax, you can still get COVID. You can still give them COVID. Getting vaxxed does nothing to prevent you from spreading covid.

The only solution for young healthy people to not spread covid to at risk, elderly or obese people is to die. If you are dead, you can no longer spread covid
There are a few studies that suggest otherwise.

Here's one:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2106757


"We provide empirical evidence suggesting that vaccination may reduce transmission by showing that vaccination of health care workers is associated with a decrease in documented cases of Covid-19 among members of their households. This finding is reassuring for health care workers and their families."

And another:

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2107717

"Overall, the likelihood of household transmission was approximately 40 to 50% lower in households of index patients who had been vaccinated 21 days or more before testing positive than in households of unvaccinated index patients; the findings were similar for the two vaccines. "
post 1650991273 11-17-2021, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By DustinTheHuss
Why? I know doctors and nurses IRL who support it.

Even Trump is vaxxed.

I only see the negatives about the vax on the Misc which makes me wonder where Miscers are from. No one has given me an ounce of proof about the long-term effects of the vaccine because no one knows.

I’m dependent on ****** and back in the 60s it was known as “mother’s little helper”. No one knew it was addictive then.

It’s all a risk.
I know doctors and nurses that support it and doctors and nurses that don't. The thing you have to realize is doctors and nurses only know what they are told. They aren't doing active research/labs on the virus or the vaccine. I know doctors and nurses that smoke cigarettes, are obese, are extremely unhealthy, etc. They may parrot basic health advise and material but how many of them are really doing the research & putting the effort into health?

We really don't know for sure if Trump, Biden, and other high level politicians are vaccinated or not. Its extremely unlikely any of them that got it on live TV or while being recorded were being legit. For the simple reason that we know there is a small chance of adverse reactions. And they would not risk a high profile person having an adverse reaction in public view.


I'm a LEO. I know other LEO's whose full-time job is body-guarding politicians. I can tell you three things with absolutely certainty.

-Masking and social distancing protocols have never applied to politicians behind closed doors/when the cameras are off. When having private parties/events/hanging out in crowds with friends and associates all covid protocols were ignored. We've seen countless photos and videos of this with politicians. I've personally attended events during peak covid where when the news camera was going to come out they took a 15 minute break to give everyone time to mask up and assume a socially distanced seat. (I exited because I wasn't going to be part of that BS).

-Vaccinations for them/their staff is optional and not mandatory. The LEO's that guard them are unvaccinated. The spouses/children of these politicians are unvaccinated.

-Everybody is trying to cover their ass without really knowing what to believe. IE encourage social distancing, masking, vaccinations, etc. without really knowing for sure how effective it will be. And without taking those precautions in their personal life. Its politics. Pulling a DeSantis is a MASSIVE risk most were unwilling to take.





Based on what I know about government agencies, 'health officials', hospitals and their administration, and politicians. My faith in the CDC and the government has decreased dramatically. Not going to go into further details but I personally believe its all bull**** and nobody really knows what's going on except a few people at the top.
post 1650993853 11-17-2021, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted By guest89
-Vaccinations for them/their staff is optional and not mandatory. The LEO's that guard them are unvaccinated. The spouses/children of these politicians are unvaccinated.
This goes along with what I read about newsoms 14 year old daughter has had even her regular vax shots
Originally Posted By guest89
-Everybody is trying to cover their ass without really knowing what to believe. IE encourage social distancing, masking, vaccinations, etc. without really knowing for sure how effective it will be. And without taking those precautions in their personal life. Its politics. Pulling a DeSantis is a MASSIVE risk most were unwilling to take.
Correct there is almost nothing to gain for a politician to go against the grain

It’s a symptom of our feminised society that everyone is so risk adverse

We see it in businesses too where they push bs rules because of insurances, liabilities and the “what if” factor
There almost no downsides for them to force employees to undertake hours of cultural sensitivity training or wear ridiculous ppe at all times, yet if one person doesn’t wear it and gets injured….
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post 1650998443 11-17-2021, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By moosik85
This goes along with what I read about newsoms 14 year old daughter has had even her regular vax shots



Correct there is almost nothing to gain for a politician to go against the grain

It’s a symptom of our feminised society that everyone is so risk adverse

We see it in businesses too where they push bs rules because of insurances, liabilities and the “what if” factor
There almost no downsides for them to force employees to undertake hours of cultural sensitivity training or wear ridiculous ppe at all times, yet if one person doesn’t wear it and gets injured….
thats why its always good to be intelligent and err on the side of knowledge. My hesitance and skepticism the whole time have been purely based on knowledge and science. It's never added up.
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