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11-18-2021, 02:13 PM
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Good guy Sony comes to the rescue again
Sony Group Corp.’s PlayStation Chief Jim Ryan admonished Activision Blizzard Inc. Wednesday for an inadequate response to allegations that Chief Executive Officer Bobby Kotick was aware of sexual misconduct and harassment claims at the game publisher for years and that he had mistreated women.
In an email to employees reviewed by Bloomberg, Ryan linked to the Wall Street Journal’s Tuesday report. He wrote that he and his leadership were “disheartened and frankly stunned to read” that Activision “has not done enough to address a deep-seated culture of discrimination and harassment.”
“We outreached to Activision immediately after the article was published to express our deep concern and to ask how they plan to address the claims made in the article,” he wrote. “We do not believe their statements of response properly address the situation.”
As one of the video game industry’s biggest console manufacturers, Sony has long had a close relationship with Activision, which produces hits like Call of Duty and World of Warcraft. In addition to publishing most of its games on PlayStation consoles, Activision has worked with Sony on elaborate marketing deals. The last few entries in the Call of Duty series, including this year’s Call of Duty: Vanguard, have featured exclusive modes and content for the PlayStation.
Activision is also under fire from its own employees. More than 100 walked out Tuesday and called for Kotick’s resignation. The board issued a statement standing by Kotick. Activision shares fell 2.5% in New York on Wednesday afternoon.
Ryan’s email didn’t specify actions Sony would take against Activision, but Sony has been proactive in the past about removing games from its PlayStation online store when it was unhappy. Last December, Sony pulled the highly-anticipated game Cyberpunk 2077 from its store and offered full refunds to players after the release was riddled with bugs and performed especially poorly in console versions. Sony reinstated the title about six months later.
Ryan emphasized to his staff that Sony Interactive Entertainment “is committed to ensuring our community of developers and gamers feel safe and respected, and providing a secure work environment for every employee.” He called on employees to report instances of harassment or discrimination and promised that any action would be investigated.
Kotick is facing mounting concerns about the direction of the company, including in the form of multiple lawsuits and an investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Kotick has apologized for an early reaction from the company that was considered “tone deaf” by staff and has taken measures to clean up the corporate culture, including reducing his salary until new gender goals are met and calling off its biggest annual gaming event, BlizzCon.
But his support is waning. A small group of Activision Blizzard shareholders, accounting for less than 1% of the outstanding stock, said it called for Kotick’s resignation on Wednesday in a letter to the company’s board.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...to-allegations
In an email to employees reviewed by Bloomberg, Ryan linked to the Wall Street Journal’s Tuesday report. He wrote that he and his leadership were “disheartened and frankly stunned to read” that Activision “has not done enough to address a deep-seated culture of discrimination and harassment.”
“We outreached to Activision immediately after the article was published to express our deep concern and to ask how they plan to address the claims made in the article,” he wrote. “We do not believe their statements of response properly address the situation.”
As one of the video game industry’s biggest console manufacturers, Sony has long had a close relationship with Activision, which produces hits like Call of Duty and World of Warcraft. In addition to publishing most of its games on PlayStation consoles, Activision has worked with Sony on elaborate marketing deals. The last few entries in the Call of Duty series, including this year’s Call of Duty: Vanguard, have featured exclusive modes and content for the PlayStation.
Activision is also under fire from its own employees. More than 100 walked out Tuesday and called for Kotick’s resignation. The board issued a statement standing by Kotick. Activision shares fell 2.5% in New York on Wednesday afternoon.
Ryan’s email didn’t specify actions Sony would take against Activision, but Sony has been proactive in the past about removing games from its PlayStation online store when it was unhappy. Last December, Sony pulled the highly-anticipated game Cyberpunk 2077 from its store and offered full refunds to players after the release was riddled with bugs and performed especially poorly in console versions. Sony reinstated the title about six months later.
Ryan emphasized to his staff that Sony Interactive Entertainment “is committed to ensuring our community of developers and gamers feel safe and respected, and providing a secure work environment for every employee.” He called on employees to report instances of harassment or discrimination and promised that any action would be investigated.
Kotick is facing mounting concerns about the direction of the company, including in the form of multiple lawsuits and an investigation by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Kotick has apologized for an early reaction from the company that was considered “tone deaf” by staff and has taken measures to clean up the corporate culture, including reducing his salary until new gender goals are met and calling off its biggest annual gaming event, BlizzCon.
But his support is waning. A small group of Activision Blizzard shareholders, accounting for less than 1% of the outstanding stock, said it called for Kotick’s resignation on Wednesday in a letter to the company’s board.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...to-allegations
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11-18-2021, 04:15 PM
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Way to try to make this all about Sony when Phil Spencer and Xbox did the same exact thing:
Xbox boss Phil Spencer has reportedly told staff that his team are “disturbed and deeply troubled by the horrific events and actions” at Activision Blizzard, following allegations of sexual misconduct and harassment.
This story was brought back to the forefront this week after The Wall Street Journal published a report alleging that CEO Bobby Kotick had been aware of sexual misconduct allegations for years at the company. This also led to over 100 employees staging a walkout soon afterwards, protesting outside of the Blizzard Entertainment campus.
In response, Bloomberg is reporting that Phil Spencer told Xbox employees in an internal email that he's “evaluating all aspects of our relationship with Activision Blizzard and making ongoing proactive adjustments".
Spencer echoes the thoughts of PlayStation's Jim Ryan who shared similar sentiments with Sony staff recently, stating that he was “disheartened and frankly stunned" to read that the company "has not done enough to address a deep-seated culture of discrimination and harassment."
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/1...ith-activision
Xbox boss Phil Spencer has reportedly told staff that his team are “disturbed and deeply troubled by the horrific events and actions” at Activision Blizzard, following allegations of sexual misconduct and harassment.
This story was brought back to the forefront this week after The Wall Street Journal published a report alleging that CEO Bobby Kotick had been aware of sexual misconduct allegations for years at the company. This also led to over 100 employees staging a walkout soon afterwards, protesting outside of the Blizzard Entertainment campus.
In response, Bloomberg is reporting that Phil Spencer told Xbox employees in an internal email that he's “evaluating all aspects of our relationship with Activision Blizzard and making ongoing proactive adjustments".
Spencer echoes the thoughts of PlayStation's Jim Ryan who shared similar sentiments with Sony staff recently, stating that he was “disheartened and frankly stunned" to read that the company "has not done enough to address a deep-seated culture of discrimination and harassment."
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/1...ith-activision
11-18-2021, 04:23 PM
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Gooder guy Phil said he's "re-evaluating" the relationship with activision while jim ryan is just "disheartened" ... RIP SOYNY.
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11-18-2021, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Spence lookin thicc bulking?Way to try to make this all about Sony when Phil Spencer and Xbox did the same exact thing:
Xbox boss Phil Spencer has reportedly told staff that his team are “disturbed and deeply troubled by the horrific events and actions” at Activision Blizzard, following allegations of sexual misconduct and harassment.
This story was brought back to the forefront this week after The Wall Street Journal published a report alleging that CEO Bobby Kotick had been aware of sexual misconduct allegations for years at the company. This also led to over 100 employees staging a walkout soon afterwards, protesting outside of the Blizzard Entertainment campus.
In response, Bloomberg is reporting that Phil Spencer told Xbox employees in an internal email that he's “evaluating all aspects of our relationship with Activision Blizzard and making ongoing proactive adjustments".
Spencer echoes the thoughts of PlayStation's Jim Ryan who shared similar sentiments with Sony staff recently, stating that he was “disheartened and frankly stunned" to read that the company "has not done enough to address a deep-seated culture of discrimination and harassment."
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/1...ith-activision
Xbox boss Phil Spencer has reportedly told staff that his team are “disturbed and deeply troubled by the horrific events and actions” at Activision Blizzard, following allegations of sexual misconduct and harassment.
This story was brought back to the forefront this week after The Wall Street Journal published a report alleging that CEO Bobby Kotick had been aware of sexual misconduct allegations for years at the company. This also led to over 100 employees staging a walkout soon afterwards, protesting outside of the Blizzard Entertainment campus.
In response, Bloomberg is reporting that Phil Spencer told Xbox employees in an internal email that he's “evaluating all aspects of our relationship with Activision Blizzard and making ongoing proactive adjustments".
Spencer echoes the thoughts of PlayStation's Jim Ryan who shared similar sentiments with Sony staff recently, stating that he was “disheartened and frankly stunned" to read that the company "has not done enough to address a deep-seated culture of discrimination and harassment."
https://www.purexbox.com/news/2021/1...ith-activision
also hnnng at chick in the picture
11-18-2021, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
So I’ve heard. My sister and her friends are team xboned.The hot chicks all go to Xbox events.
Watching Tiger king 2 while reading this and honestly nothing shocks me anymore. Sony. It’s like finding out your favorite singer is gay. If you were alive in the 90’s.
11-18-2021, 05:12 PM
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Not sure if op shills harder for Sony or Phizer.
Either way he’s a huge ****g0t
Either way he’s a huge ****g0t
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11-18-2021, 05:19 PM
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11-18-2021, 07:40 PM
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Lool.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
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11-18-2021, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩
This lol. Virtue has adequately been signaled.Lool.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
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11-18-2021, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩
The Acti board is just debating, "is Kotick going to make us more money than if we kicked him to the curb and got a replacement". That is what I assume it will come down to.Lool.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
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11-18-2021, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted By chaunce54⏩
Yeah, I mean the most these companies can do is probably just not have their marketing/timed exclusive deals anymore.This lol. Virtue has adequately been signaled.
Originally Posted By ScramFranklin⏩
Pretty much yeah.The Acti board is just debating, "is Kotick going to make us more money than if we kicked him to the curb and got a replacement". That is what I assume it will come down to.
Would be pretty surprised if he did decide to "step down".
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11-19-2021, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted By kr1kit⏩
thought you were into trannies broDid you just admit that your sister is hot?
pics?
pics?
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11-19-2021, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩
LoLLool.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
Activision has responded to Sony and Microsoft's comments, saying "We respect all feedback from our valued partners and are engaging with them further"
Engaging Kotick has engaged with Disheartened Ryan and Revaluating Phil.
Now that both of the corpo's have garnered their pr points and activision commented on it, business can go on as usual. Stay tuned for the upcoming timed exclusive dlc for mw2022 exclusively on playstation consoles first.
Originally Posted By sooby⏩
Why not both?thought you were into trannies bro
11-19-2021, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted By kr1kit⏩
Still fit and good for 37. When she was younger .... talk about a tifa lockhart lookalike! Makes sense we all played the original 2 disc final fantasy vii on ps1.Did you just admit that your sister is hot?
pics?
pics?
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Bobby pls
Bobby Kotick Actually Wrote Fran Townsend's Deranged, Company-Wide Email
Earlier this year, an email was sent to all employees of Activision Blizzard from the email account of Chief Compliance Officer, former Executive Sponsor of the ABV Employee Women’s Network and former Torture Apologist Fran Townsend. Sent in the midst of historic allegations of harassment against the company, it was so bad that it was one of the direct, cited causes of a staff walkout.
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The email understandably enraged employees, led to Townsend stepping down from her role as Executive Sponsor of the Activision Blizzard Women’s Network and to this day remains one of the most spectacularly ill-judged pieces of damage control from the company in a year where those have become all-too-common.
Today, somehow, this email has returned and become even more explosive, with the Wall Street Journal reporting that Townsend didn’t even write it. Besieged Activision Blizzard boss Bobby Kotick did. The story says that Kotick, who “approves most internal companywide emails, as well as media responses”, drafted the email himself, and then directed that it be sent under Townsend’s name, likely because she was one of the few women executives at a company run predominantly by men.
An Activision rep responding to the WSJ’s reporting says Kotick now “takes responsibility for the incident and regrets it”, and adds “Ms. Townsend should not be blamed for this mistake.” If you remember at the time, Kotick criticised the email as having been “tone deaf”, despite the fact that it now turns out he wrote it himself.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bobby...221000484.html
Bobby Kotick Actually Wrote Fran Townsend's Deranged, Company-Wide Email
Earlier this year, an email was sent to all employees of Activision Blizzard from the email account of Chief Compliance Officer, former Executive Sponsor of the ABV Employee Women’s Network and former Torture Apologist Fran Townsend. Sent in the midst of historic allegations of harassment against the company, it was so bad that it was one of the direct, cited causes of a staff walkout.
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The email understandably enraged employees, led to Townsend stepping down from her role as Executive Sponsor of the Activision Blizzard Women’s Network and to this day remains one of the most spectacularly ill-judged pieces of damage control from the company in a year where those have become all-too-common.
Today, somehow, this email has returned and become even more explosive, with the Wall Street Journal reporting that Townsend didn’t even write it. Besieged Activision Blizzard boss Bobby Kotick did. The story says that Kotick, who “approves most internal companywide emails, as well as media responses”, drafted the email himself, and then directed that it be sent under Townsend’s name, likely because she was one of the few women executives at a company run predominantly by men.
An Activision rep responding to the WSJ’s reporting says Kotick now “takes responsibility for the incident and regrets it”, and adds “Ms. Townsend should not be blamed for this mistake.” If you remember at the time, Kotick criticised the email as having been “tone deaf”, despite the fact that it now turns out he wrote it himself.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bobby...221000484.html
11-19-2021, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
lmfaoooo the balls on this kunt.Bobby pls
Bobby Kotick Actually Wrote Fran Townsend's Deranged, Company-Wide Email
Earlier this year, an email was sent to all employees of Activision Blizzard from the email account of Chief Compliance Officer, former Executive Sponsor of the ABV Employee Women’s Network and former Torture Apologist Fran Townsend. Sent in the midst of historic allegations of harassment against the company, it was so bad that it was one of the direct, cited causes of a staff walkout.
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The email understandably enraged employees, led to Townsend stepping down from her role as Executive Sponsor of the Activision Blizzard Women’s Network and to this day remains one of the most spectacularly ill-judged pieces of damage control from the company in a year where those have become all-too-common.
Today, somehow, this email has returned and become even more explosive, with the Wall Street Journal reporting that Townsend didn’t even write it. Besieged Activision Blizzard boss Bobby Kotick did. The story says that Kotick, who “approves most internal companywide emails, as well as media responses”, drafted the email himself, and then directed that it be sent under Townsend’s name, likely because she was one of the few women executives at a company run predominantly by men.
An Activision rep responding to the WSJ’s reporting says Kotick now “takes responsibility for the incident and regrets it”, and adds “Ms. Townsend should not be blamed for this mistake.”If you remember at the time, Kotick criticised the email as having been “tone deaf”, despite the fact that it now turns out he wrote it himself.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bobby...221000484.html
Bobby Kotick Actually Wrote Fran Townsend's Deranged, Company-Wide Email
Earlier this year, an email was sent to all employees of Activision Blizzard from the email account of Chief Compliance Officer, former Executive Sponsor of the ABV Employee Women’s Network and former Torture Apologist Fran Townsend. Sent in the midst of historic allegations of harassment against the company, it was so bad that it was one of the direct, cited causes of a staff walkout.
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The email understandably enraged employees, led to Townsend stepping down from her role as Executive Sponsor of the Activision Blizzard Women’s Network and to this day remains one of the most spectacularly ill-judged pieces of damage control from the company in a year where those have become all-too-common.
Today, somehow, this email has returned and become even more explosive, with the Wall Street Journal reporting that Townsend didn’t even write it. Besieged Activision Blizzard boss Bobby Kotick did. The story says that Kotick, who “approves most internal companywide emails, as well as media responses”, drafted the email himself, and then directed that it be sent under Townsend’s name, likely because she was one of the few women executives at a company run predominantly by men.
An Activision rep responding to the WSJ’s reporting says Kotick now “takes responsibility for the incident and regrets it”, and adds “Ms. Townsend should not be blamed for this mistake.”If you remember at the time, Kotick criticised the email as having been “tone deaf”, despite the fact that it now turns out he wrote it himself.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bobby...221000484.html
fkkin lost it at the last bit.
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11-19-2021, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted By BraneyGumble⏩
lmaooo wut, imagine sending an email under her name cuz wimmins and ends up getting a woman fired. just lol.Bobby pls
Bobby Kotick Actually Wrote Fran Townsend's Deranged, Company-Wide Email
Earlier this year, an email was sent to all employees of Activision Blizzard from the email account of Chief Compliance Officer, former Executive Sponsor of the ABV Employee Women’s Network and former Torture Apologist Fran Townsend. Sent in the midst of historic allegations of harassment against the company, it was so bad that it was one of the direct, cited causes of a staff walkout.
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The email understandably enraged employees, led to Townsend stepping down from her role as Executive Sponsor of the Activision Blizzard Women’s Network and to this day remains one of the most spectacularly ill-judged pieces of damage control from the company in a year where those have become all-too-common.
Today, somehow, this email has returned and become even more explosive, with the Wall Street Journal reporting that Townsend didn’t even write it. Besieged Activision Blizzard boss Bobby Kotick did. The story says that Kotick, who “approves most internal companywide emails, as well as media responses”, drafted the email himself, and then directed that it be sent under Townsend’s name, likely because she was one of the few women executives at a company run predominantly by men.
An Activision rep responding to the WSJ’s reporting says Kotick now “takes responsibility for the incident and regrets it”, and adds “Ms. Townsend should not be blamed for this mistake.” If you remember at the time, Kotick criticised the email as having been “tone deaf”, despite the fact that it now turns out he wrote it himself.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bobby...221000484.html
Bobby Kotick Actually Wrote Fran Townsend's Deranged, Company-Wide Email
Earlier this year, an email was sent to all employees of Activision Blizzard from the email account of Chief Compliance Officer, former Executive Sponsor of the ABV Employee Women’s Network and former Torture Apologist Fran Townsend. Sent in the midst of historic allegations of harassment against the company, it was so bad that it was one of the direct, cited causes of a staff walkout.
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The email understandably enraged employees, led to Townsend stepping down from her role as Executive Sponsor of the Activision Blizzard Women’s Network and to this day remains one of the most spectacularly ill-judged pieces of damage control from the company in a year where those have become all-too-common.
Today, somehow, this email has returned and become even more explosive, with the Wall Street Journal reporting that Townsend didn’t even write it. Besieged Activision Blizzard boss Bobby Kotick did. The story says that Kotick, who “approves most internal companywide emails, as well as media responses”, drafted the email himself, and then directed that it be sent under Townsend’s name, likely because she was one of the few women executives at a company run predominantly by men.
An Activision rep responding to the WSJ’s reporting says Kotick now “takes responsibility for the incident and regrets it”, and adds “Ms. Townsend should not be blamed for this mistake.” If you remember at the time, Kotick criticised the email as having been “tone deaf”, despite the fact that it now turns out he wrote it himself.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bobby...221000484.html
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Originally Posted By bongowongo⏩
lmfaoooo the balls on this kunt.
fkkin lost it at the last bit.
fkkin lost it at the last bit.
Originally Posted By sooby⏩
It's just so absurdly hilarious. You tell your employees to get fuked, stick the wahmen whatever's name on it then go "smh Fran, you really shouldn't have done that". How much did they pay her to put up with all of this bullchit?lmaooo wut, imagine sending an email under her name cuz wimmins and ends up getting a woman fired. just lol.
But don't worry, Bobby takes responsibility lmao.
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Originally Posted By kr1kit⏩
me boyowho said his sister wasn't a tranny??
It's 2021 hun
It's 2021 hun
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TLDR and why would I even care
Saw the word activation and knew it was about the controversy but still don’t care and idk why others do as well
Saw the word activation and knew it was about the controversy but still don’t care and idk why others do as well
I don't check my CP, IDC about reps/negs
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