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» I've examined the medical journals for COVID VACCINE safety. Here is the data
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post 1652843813 12-19-2021, 10:47 PM
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I've examined the medical journals for COVID VACCINE safety. Here is the data

Peer review shiet, cite these if you must argue with people on ********

International Journal of Molecular Medicine
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7521561/
In the present political environment, there is the potential that the majority of the population could be required to be vaccinated, even those demographics that were not vulnerable to the severe effects of COVID-19, and particularly those in the youngest demographic. The potential adverse consequences of such a mass inoculation with a vaccine not adequately tested for mid- and long-term adverse effects could be substantial.
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8294615/[this article is under fire]
5. Conclusions
The present assessment raises the question whether it would be necessary to rethink policies and use COVID-19 vaccines more sparingly and with some discretion only in those that are willing to accept the risk because they feel more at risk from the true infection than the mock infection. Perhaps it might be necessary to dampen the enthusiasm by sober facts? In our view, the EMA and national authorities should instigate a safety review into the safety database of COVID-19 vaccines and governments should carefully consider their policies in light of these data. Ideally, independent scientists should carry out thorough case reviews of the very severe cases, so that there can be evidence-based recommendations on who is likely to benefit from a SARS-CoV2 vaccination and who is in danger of suffering from side effects. Currently, our estimates show that we have to accept four fatal and 16 serious side effects per 100,000 vaccinations in order to save the lives of 2–11 individuals per 100,000 vaccinations, placing risks and benefits on the same order of magnitude.
Clinical and Vaccine Research
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8511593/
Evidence in Favor of Casual Association between COVID-19 Vaccinations and Death
Although the evidence support that COVID-19 vaccines are safe, there are occasional instances where health authorities recognize that each of the authorized vaccines can cause side effects or establish a causal relationship between deaths. A plausible theoretical risk that is not unexpected exist.
post 1652843843 12-19-2021, 10:47 PM
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Clinical and Vaccine Research
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8511593/
Incidence of myocarditis after receiving mRNA vaccines are common [47]. On June 25, 2021, the FDA notified recipients and caregivers about the possibility of heart-related effects and further stated that the chance of having them is low [47]. They often happen in adolescents and young people, and symptoms of shortness of breath, chest pain, and fast-beating are to be observed [47]. The CDC and FDA briefly halted the distribution of the Janssen COVID-19 vaccine due to cases of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome (TTS). According to the CDC, the vaccine’s known and potential benefits outweigh its known and potential risk in individuals aged 18 years and above and TTS is low. The EMA prompted Janssen to provide warning labels for their vaccines. GBS was reported in some people following the administration of Johnson & Johnson vaccines [48].

Same with AstraZeneca, the EMA and Danish health authorities observed 30 reported cases of blood clots after vaccination of 5 million people [49]. Four European (Denmark, Germany, France, and Norway) countries then paused their distribution before resuming them as a precautionary response [50]. On the contrary and in a different setting, the Covishield locally manufactured version of the Oxford-AstraZeneca has not seen any incidence of blood clots in India. There are also other developed brands of the COVID-19 vaccines such as the CanSino and Gamaleya, Bharat Biotech, Sinopharm, Sinovac, CoviVac and QazCovid-in, and FBRI with no report of serious adverse effects.
Those above are all I can find on actually peer reviewed journals, slightly cherry picked. Personally after looking at the research myself I wouldn't be concerned about getting the vaccine even though I am not vaccinated myself. I would say it's benefits are negligible in healthy young adults and that is pretty much a wash with the potential but very unlikely long term side effects. If I was 40+ I'd say it's worth the additional protections
post 1652845113 12-19-2021, 11:26 PM
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post 1652845243 12-19-2021, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Azrairc
Clinical and Vaccine Research
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8511593/



Those above are all I can find on actually peer reviewed journals, slightly cherry picked. Personally after looking at the research myself I wouldn't be concerned about getting the vaccine even though I am not vaccinated myself. I would say it's benefits are negligible in healthy young adults and that is pretty much a wash with the potential but very unlikely long term side effects. If I was 40+ I'd say it's worth the additional protections
If I was an oldcel I still wouldn't take the vaccine. If I got covid I'd simply get on top of it quickly with early treatment drug protocols to reduce severe side effects and avoid hospitalisation whoops no "health authorities" give a flying fk about early treatment because the vaccine is the be all and end all. Suck me big pharma.
post 1652845343 12-19-2021, 11:35 PM
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Can someone explain to me why we can't have an attenuated vaccine instead of this mRNA tech? I get it, it's been in development for decades and they effectively have this delivery method only looking for the right mRNA coding to deliver, thus likely develop faster than a traditional vaccine.

However, the thought of hijacking your own muscle and nymph node cells into generating the spike protein is disturbing to me. And despite safety protocols(i.e. one conformation thus rendering it less effective than natural infection) they can't also control where the spike proteins spreads throughout your body, most notably across the blood brain barrier.

Iran has an effective attenuated covid vaccine for fuks sake.

I'd have no qualms about taking the attenuated vaccine.
post 1652845833 12-19-2021, 11:52 PM
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Originally Posted By JIA
Can someone explain to me why we can't have an attenuated vaccine instead of this mRNA tech? I get it, it's been in development for decades and they effectively have this delivery method only looking for the right mRNA coding to deliver, thus likely develop faster than a traditional vaccine.

However, the thought of hijacking your own muscle and nymph node cells into generating the spike protein is disturbing to me. And despite safety protocols(i.e. one conformation thus rendering it less effective than natural infection) they can't also control where the spike proteins spreads throughout your body, most notably across the blood brain barrier.

Iran has an effective attenuated covid vaccine for fuks sake.

I'd have no qualms about taking the attenuated vaccine.
Lol, another pleb who obviously has no idea about science.
post 1652846773 12-20-2021, 12:36 AM
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It's pretty clear that 100% healthy, normal-weight males below the age of 40, and all normal-weight children below the age of 18 do not need the vaccine.
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post 1652847113 12-20-2021, 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted By II
It's pretty clear that 100% healthy, normal-weight males below the age of 40, and all normal-weight children below the age of 18 do not need the vaccine.
57 , had the OG variant last december at 56, kicked it after 2 weeks ......under 70 a healthy person is more likely to die of flu
post 1652847173 12-20-2021, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted By umop3pisdn
Lol, another pleb who obviously has no idea about science.
Lol, another dweeb who obviously has no idea how to argue a point.
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post 1652847213 12-20-2021, 01:07 AM
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I read through a couple of the articles where the CDC recommended the mRNA vaccines over the J&J.

From the article written by CBS I used the numbers within to see if receiving the jab was more dangerous than getting Covid. With the numbers I had at my disposal it shows I would have a worse chance with Covid than the actual vaccine, but who knows if the numbers I had were anywhere close to accurate. I actually had Covid over a year ago, and I was back to work within a week, even though my body still felt worn out.

16 million received the J&J. Within the first nine days is when people started to develop the more severe cases of blood clots. The article said 9 died. 57 in total developed the condition.
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post 1652847563 12-20-2021, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis
I read through a couple of the articles where the CDC recommended the mRNA vaccines over the J&J.

From the article written by CBS I used the numbers within to see if receiving the jab was more dangerous than getting Covid. With the numbers I had at my disposal it shows I would have a worse chance with Covid than the actual vaccine, but who knows if the numbers I had were anywhere close to accurate. I actually had Covid over a year ago, and I was back to work within a week, even though my body still felt worn out.

16 million received the J&J. Within the first nine days is when people started to develop the more severe cases of blood clots. The article said 9 died. 57 in total developed the condition.
That's pretty much my stance, and we saw the media promise the vaccines are safe and later data came out to show that J&J vaccine is no longer recommended.

Also I'd like to see if you'd really even benefit from the vaccine, the gross data shows a lower death rate in young populations (Which is already astounding low) but the subsets need to be divided out. Obviously if comorbid patients are included in the gross data it's not accurate for the healthy population especially the younger
post 1652848393 12-20-2021, 02:16 AM
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