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post 1653542433 01-01-2022, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By Paul
Not to mention natural antibodies drop 40% post second jab..
No.
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Originally Posted By Azrairc
24 with covid, 14% BF 175lbs and I was very exhausted, could barely move, chest hurting, throat hurting, anxiety, vomiting. Had no energy, barely eating. I lost like 10 pounds. Also had some breathing issues. Couldn't sleep without waking up and gasping for air and a god awful existence for 10 straight days

any why? all to impress guys on a dying indian forum about not being a mudblood or some ****

please think twice becasue the misc is not real life, the real life has consequences and covid is phucking serious disease. just get vaccinated
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Op can't handle a cold

Quick.. better lockdown entire countries and destroy societies for pensioners ..and op

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post 1653542773 01-01-2022, 11:20 AM
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We got it early in 2020. It was a long cold with more of an annoying, nagging cough for us. First time I ever hacked up green stuff. Only time my oldest child had cold like symptoms for more than 2 or 3 days. He had them for over a week, though mild. And I felt generally tired, which I never do with colds. My whole life I lifted or ran with colds, but with original Covid I took it easy until after it went away.

I give it a 1/10 pandemic illness. Sorry your bout of it was worse OP. Sounds like you had a 3/10.
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Fyi...covid doesn't affect everyone the same
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I had it and didn’t have anything close to that OP. And I am not vaxxed. But I also loaded up on NAC (which I take periodically anyways), vitamins D/K, fish oils and I drink a homemade greens drink. I’m pretty sure my immune system took care of covid.
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Originally Posted By yewotm8
And you honestly think the injection would have saved you from being sick? You're desperate and believe anything you're told lmao.
problem is he seems pretty easily influenced by both sides from the sound of it. Without looking in to it enough himself. Just being swayed by those around him...or on the misc. Otherwise he wouldn't of been talking about "impressing" anyone

and in the same sense, that anxiety he had can also come down to a weak mind. Producing a sort of Psycho****tic symptom
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learn to form your own opinions next time OP. I'm a pureblood, but that decision has nothing to do with randoms on the misc.


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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
No.
Yes.

Results A total of 2,653 individuals fully vaccinated by two doses of vaccine during the study period and 4,361 convalescent patients were included. Higher SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody titers were observed in vaccinated individuals (median 1581 AU/mL IQR [533.8-5644.6]) after the second vaccination, than in convalescent individuals (median 355.3 AU/mL IQR [141.2-998.7]; p<0.001). In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Conclusions This study demonstrates individuals who received the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine have different kinetics of antibody levels compared to patients who had been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, with higher initial levels but a much faster exponential decrease in the first group.


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....19.21262111v1




“In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month ”
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah
So much this

I literally use this site to trigger the white snowflakes while I have a dump

The Qwhites of this forum are the easiest idiots to troll
Everybody knows you're a red retard troll though. Only thing your trolling is your height.
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Originally Posted By Silencespeaks
Losing 10 lbs sounds amazing actually.
This. Stop being a little bitch OP. Consider it a week of cutting fat.
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Originally Posted By Paul
Yes.

Results A total of 2,653 individuals fully vaccinated by two doses of vaccine during the study period and 4,361 convalescent patients were included. Higher SARS-CoV-2 IgG antibody titers were observed in vaccinated individuals (median 1581 AU/mL IQR [533.8-5644.6]) after the second vaccination, than in convalescent individuals (median 355.3 AU/mL IQR [141.2-998.7]; p<0.001). In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.

Conclusions This study demonstrates individuals who received the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine have different kinetics of antibody levels compared to patients who had been infected with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, with higher initial levels but a much faster exponential decrease in the first group.


https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....19.21262111v1




“In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month ”
Right. Vaccine-induced antibodies decline over time, as do infection-induced antibodies. The rate of decline differs between the two and the rate of decline of infection-induced antibodies appears to be related to the severity of infection.

You said this:
Originally Posted By Paul
Not to mention natural antibodies drop 40% post second jab..
Which is incorrect and not supported by the pre-print you posted.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Right. Vaccine-induced antibodies declined.

You said this:



Which is incorrect and not supported by the pre-print you posted.
No.

It did not specify if they were “vaccine” induced antibodies. They tested antibodies (period). Those whom were vaccinated had a drop of 40%.

“0.001). In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.”
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Originally Posted By Paul
“0.001). In vaccinated subjects, antibody titers decreased by up to 40% each subsequent month while in convalescents they decreased by less than 5% per month. Six months after BNT162b2 vaccination 16.1% subjects had antibody levels below the seropositivity threshold of <50 AU/mL, while only 10.8% of convalescent patients were below <50 AU/mL threshold after 9 months from SARS-CoV-2 infection.”
Exactly. They are comparing vaccine-induced to infection-induced anti-s antibody titres over time using the Abbot Alinit i system.

Read the paper, man:

"Antibody titers were measured between January 31, 2021, and July 31, 2021 intwo mutually exclusive groups: i) vaccinated individuals who received two doses of BNT162b2 vaccine and had no history of previous infection with COVID-19 and ii) SARS-CoV-2 convalescents who had not received the vaccine."

They evaluated anti-s antibody titres aftereithervaccination or infection.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Exactly. They are comparing vaccine-induced titres to infection-induced titres over time.

Read the paper, man:

"Antibody titers were measured between January 31, 2021, and July 31, 2021 intwo mutually exclusive groups: i) vaccinated individuals who received two doses of BNT162b2 vaccine and had no history of previous infection with COVID-19 and ii) SARS-CoV-2 convalescents who had not received the vaccine"
Exactly. They tested antibodies in vaxxed & unvaxxed, those that had a drop of 40% were the vaxxed...why get vaxxed at all? If the vaccine induced antibodies drop but the natural antibodies do not..?
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Originally Posted By Paul
Exactly. They tested antibodies in vaxxed & unvaxxed, those that had a drop of 40% were the vaxxed...why get vaxxed at all? If the vaccine induced antibodies drop but the natural antibodies do not..?
Infection comes with risks and the rate of infection-induced decline appears to be proportional to severity of infection. Long-lasting infection-induced antibody titers come from more severe infections.

It should come down to deciding which risks are more accepting to the individual.

You said "natural antibodies" decline in vaccinated people, which had nothing to do with the paper.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Infection comes with risks and the rate of infection-induced decline appears to be proportional to severity of infection. Long-lasting infection-induced antibody titers come from more severe infections.

It should come down to deciding which risks are more accepting to the individual.
You aren’t lowering your risk of infection if you get jabbed though..nor severity

And to your edit-if you are jabbed..do you think you still have natural antibodies?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It should come down to deciding which risks are more accepting to the individual.
I think any "anti-vaxxer" or vaccine skeptic would agree to this. The reason we're all so resistant is because of the staunch effort to mandate vaccines, which bypasses any risk analysis between doctor and patient, much less the individual's own comfort level. A mandate to take a product we don't need from companies with a history of harm caused by experimental drugs...

No thanks. There's a billion other risky behaviors that we are not mandated to take positions on just to "protect" our neighbor. Let this stay in that category.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
I think any "anti-vaxxer" or vaccine skeptic would agree to this. The reason we're all so resistant is because of the staunch effort to mandate vaccines, which bypasses any risk analysis between doctor and patient, much less the individual's own comfort level. A mandate to take a product we don't need from companies with a history of harm caused by experimental drugs...

No thanks. There's a billion other risky behaviors that we are not mandated to take positions on. Let this stay in that category.
I agree that mandates are a terrible policy. I think mandates will likely do more harm than good.
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The Big Lie is falling apart.

Don't be a useful idiot fool of the Big Liars.





Clay Travis @ClayTravis
The NFL is 95% vaccinated, the NBA is 97% vaccinated, the NHL is nearly 100% vaccinated. All three leagues are still overwhelmed with covid cases & hitting new covid case highs. So how is @JoeBiden arguing vaccines will end covid? The pro sports leagues prove that’s 100% a lie.

The sports leagues all have levels of covid vaccination that are nearly 100%. The players are far younger & healthier than the overall population. Yet they are all overrun with covid. The pro sports leagues data definitively prove that vaccines won’t end covid. Biden’s lying.

If the media was doing its job they’d point to pro sports leagues and ask Biden and Fauci to explain what’s going on there. Those leagues did exactly what you asked and got everyone vaccinated. Yet all three leagues are presently hitting all time highs for covid cases.

Not asking these questions is the very definition of being anti-science. We have a massive control group of almost 100% vaxxed healthy young athletes being tested regularly & they have way more covid cases this year after vaccines than they had last year with no vaccines. How?

I’m clearly not a scientist or an expert in medicine, but the pro sports data tells a clear story for anyone with a functional brain: vaccines, even if everyone has them, won’t end covid. In fact, they may make covid positivity even more common.

These athletes are smart about their bodies. They see this all happening and have very real questions. They know the vaccines aren’t ending covid. But they see what happens to athletes who speak out and ask questions so they (mostly) stay quiet. This is all wrong & anti-science.




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93.7% of the latest #COVID19 deaths in Scotland were #vaccinated
90.5% were FULLY vaccinated

A total 530 COVID19 deaths in October;

454 double vaccinated
12 single vaccinated
64 unvaccinated

An estimated 70% of entire population are fully vaccinated


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDRwtuKX...jpg&name=large


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Freedom Podcast
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82.3% of the latest #COVID19 deaths in #England were #vaccinated
80% were FULLY #vaccinated

A total 3,340 COVID19 deaths in Week 41-44;

2,732 double vaccinated
90 single vaccinated
587 unvaccinated

Estimated 60% of entire population are fully vaccinated


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FD7vR5jW...jpg&name=large




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Craig Learner
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So, uh ... 552 "fully vaccinated" with #Pfizer people die in #Oregon and I haven't heard a peep about this on #CNN or #FoxNews.

What's with the silence?

https://www.ibtimes.com/552-fully-va...accine-3352533


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New Hampshire has 99.9% of everyone over 12 at least partially vaccinated and cases are the highest they’ve ever been and they have the highest case rate in the United States, but sure politicians, vaccine passports will definitely fix everything
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGHAQ-EV...name=4096x4096



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Maine: 82% vaxxed (12+)
New Hampshire: 74% vaxxed (12+)

National Guard to help hospitals in Maine, New Hampshire
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/y...new-hampshire/



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@TheNo1Waffler
Whilst you’ve been distracted by the UK Government Christmas party, PHS released a report confirming the fully vaccinated account for 9 in every 10 Covid-19 deaths over the past 4 months.



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Latest Details of ICU Numbers "Of the total deaths which rose to 45 people, 41 of those were fully vaccinated while 4 of the casualties were partly vaccinated. NONE of the 45 deaths was unvaccinated people"
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This is becoming a trend. The VAXXED are dying

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FGAeo9bX...jpg&name=large

pic from



New HPSC update came a day early this week.

Main points since last week's update:

-48 total COVID ICU admissions
20 unvaccinated
28 with at least one dose
23 fully vaccinated

-45 COVID deaths
0 unvaccinated
45 with at least one dose
41 fully vaccinated


https://hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coro...weeklyreports/







What's happening?

The injections are unsafe and ineffective, that's what's happening.

Ineffective for most all people in terms of contagion and spread of virus, and unsafe for a smaller but still worrying number of people. The number of people dead and injured by the injections is way too high to be calling the injections safe, regardless of the fact that the majority of people don't have a problem with them.



https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1653197263

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1652726693




and before anyone says 'well they're effective because they're only supposed to reduce severity not reduce contagion blah blah' - no the injections were in fact at first lauded by the providers and gov and media to be able to prevent infection and spread.


https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1652727013

https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1652727463




ps. and if I started posting the info of those dead and injured after injection then I'd fill up hundreds of pages of this thread
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I agree that mandates are a terrible policy. I think mandates will likely do more harm than good.
That is refreshing to hear brah, srs
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Some real data and comments. from Scotland



93.7% of the latest #COVID19 deaths in Scotland were #vaccinated
90.5% were FULLY vaccinated

A total 530 COVID19 deaths in October;

454 double vaccinated
12 single vaccinated
64 unvaccinated

An estimated 70% of entire population are fully vaccinated

68.8% of recent positive #Cases were amongst the vaccinated

During the month of October, over 45,000 vaccinated people tested positive for COVID-19, including 41,208 that were FULLY vaccinated

76.2% of #COVID19 acute #Hospitalisations are now amongst the #vaccinated (73.5% FULLY vaccinated)

This figure continuous to increase week on week

#COVID19 deaths in Scotland over summer

1st June - 30th September 2020 (no vax)
134 COVID deaths

1st June - 30th September 2021 (4.4M)
1,047 OVID deaths

Why are COVID deaths 8X higher with a vaccine as opposed to last year without one??



More info plus source charts and graphs here -

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Originally Posted By yabbayabba
Everybody knows you're a red retard troll though. Only thing your trolling is your height.
Yet nobody knows who you are

Lol

Rent free
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
Some real data and comments. from Scotland



93.7% of the latest #COVID19 deaths in Scotland were #vaccinated
90.5% were FULLY vaccinated

A total 530 COVID19 deaths in October;

454 double vaccinated
12 single vaccinated
64 unvaccinated

An estimated 70% of entire population are fully vaccinated

68.8% of recent positive #Cases were amongst the vaccinated

During the month of October, over 45,000 vaccinated people tested positive for COVID-19, including 41,208 that were FULLY vaccinated

76.2% of #COVID19 acute #Hospitalisations are now amongst the #vaccinated (73.5% FULLY vaccinated)

This figure continuous to increase week on week

#COVID19 deaths in Scotland over summer

1st June - 30th September 2020 (no vax)
134 COVID deaths

1st June - 30th September 2021 (4.4M)
1,047 OVID deaths

Why are COVID deaths 8X higher with a vaccine as opposed to last year without one??



More info plus source charts and graphs here -

This the ADE that was talked about? How the fuk can there be this many deaths?

The reasons to get the vax:
To not get Covid
To not spread Covid

Oops, we can get it and spread it. So then it was:
To not get bad symptoms
To not die

Now they're dying.

Time for boosters, now we need boosters. Every six months. Every 3 months. Every ten weeks to be effective. I've seen the charts tho....and it looks like after 2 months this chit loses effectiveness. So when is it gonna change to every 2 months? Oh, don't forget it takes 2 weeks to be effective, better get boosted every 6 weeks....
Virtue is its own reward.
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah
Yet nobody knows who you are

Lol

Rent free
I guess you win? Lol, what a loser.
Ack...Ack
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Originally Posted By Johnez
This the ADE that was talked about? How the fuk can there be this many deaths?

The reasons to get the vax:
To not get Covid
To not spread Covid

Oops, we can get it and spread it. So then it was:
To not get bad symptoms
To not die

Now they're dying.

Time for boosters, now we need boosters. Every six months. Every 3 months. Every ten weeks to be effective. I've seen the charts tho....and it looks like after 2 months this chit loses effectiveness. So when is it gonna change to every 2 months? Oh, don't forget it takes 2 weeks to be effective, better get boosted every 6 weeks....
It's also important to note that almost the entire population of people over age 50 are vaccinated in Scotland.
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Originally Posted By Johnez
This the ADE that was talked about? How the fuk can there be this many deaths?

The reasons to get the vax:
To not get Covid
To not spread Covid

Oops, we can get it and spread it. So then it was:
To not get bad symptoms
To not die

Now they're dying.

Time for boosters, now we need boosters. Every six months. Every 3 months. Every ten weeks to be effective. I've seen the charts tho....and it looks like after 2 months this chit loses effectiveness. So when is it gonna change to every 2 months? Oh, don't forget it takes 2 weeks to be effective, better get boosted every 6 weeks....
post 1653553083 01-01-2022, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted By MiniManletBrah
Yet nobody knows who you are

Lol

Rent free
Good. Imagine your claim to fame is being a racist retard troll on a dying forum. Between being a manlet and bragging about banging fat white prostitutes while being a druggy degenerate hanging out in council housing I will at least give you some props for not roping yet.
post 1653553123 01-01-2022, 02:54 PM
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OP you should get as many vaxxes as it takes for you to die (srs)
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