01-02-2022, 09:33 AM
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Matias Desmet: Mass Formation Psychosis
Big Cliffsin post #4.
Great interview about why so many people seem to be unable to take in any evidence that goes against the mainstream COVID propaganda program. Worth watching, but I will try to provide an outline.
- As the pandemic developed all of the world's attention was focused on the potential fatalities, victims of the virus and it seemed as if all the rest did not exist anymore.
- The United Nations and several other international institutions warned us that the number of people starving or dying from hunger in developing countries as a consequence of the lockdowns could be far higher than the number of victims of the virus could claimeven if no measures were taken at all.
- There were two sets of risks; the risks from the virus and the risks from the lockdown measures but it seemed that the population and the governments did not manage to take both sources of danger into account.
- We haven't seen at any time really a comparison of the number of people that could die of the virus and the number of people that could die from the corona measures. That is the most basic thing that a society should consider- whether the remedy will be worse than the disease.
- Around May 2020 is when Desmet began to take a statistical perspective and gained the feeling that the core of the problem was a psychological problem, not a biological problem. How was it possible that a society went through a process like this and didn't see anymore? It took a few months until he concluded that what we are experiencing ismass formationorcrowd psychosis.
Mass formation psychosis emerges in a society when very specific conditions are met:
- Because many people participate in the same strategy to deal with the object of anxiety a new type of social bond emerges so people feel connected again in a new way.
-Everything is about solidarity.You have to social distance. You have to accept the vaccine. If you don't you lack citizenship; you show no solidarity.
-THE REAL REASON PEOPLE BUY INTO THE STORY, EVEN IF IT IS UTTERLY ABSURD, IS NOT BELIEF IN THE NARRATIVE BUT BECAUSE THE NARRATIVE LEADS TO THE NEW SOCIAL BOND.
-ALL OF THE FRUSTRATION AND AGGRESSION CAN BE DIRECTED AT AN OBJECT, AND THAT OBJECT IS THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MASS FORMATION.
- Only about 30% is really into this process of collective hypnosis, this mass formation, then another 40% to 50% will never go against the curve, then another 20%, maybe 10% who is not hypnotized at all and wants to really speak out against the situation.
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First 25 minutes.
Great interview about why so many people seem to be unable to take in any evidence that goes against the mainstream COVID propaganda program. Worth watching, but I will try to provide an outline.
- As the pandemic developed all of the world's attention was focused on the potential fatalities, victims of the virus and it seemed as if all the rest did not exist anymore.
- The United Nations and several other international institutions warned us that the number of people starving or dying from hunger in developing countries as a consequence of the lockdowns could be far higher than the number of victims of the virus could claimeven if no measures were taken at all.
- There were two sets of risks; the risks from the virus and the risks from the lockdown measures but it seemed that the population and the governments did not manage to take both sources of danger into account.
- We haven't seen at any time really a comparison of the number of people that could die of the virus and the number of people that could die from the corona measures. That is the most basic thing that a society should consider- whether the remedy will be worse than the disease.
- Around May 2020 is when Desmet began to take a statistical perspective and gained the feeling that the core of the problem was a psychological problem, not a biological problem. How was it possible that a society went through a process like this and didn't see anymore? It took a few months until he concluded that what we are experiencing ismass formationorcrowd psychosis.
Mass formation psychosis emerges in a society when very specific conditions are met:
A Large Number Of People Sense A Lack Of Social Bond:
- lack of connectedness with other people
- can occur without physical isolation
- people feel lonely and emotionally disconnected
- this was huge in the years leading up to the crisis [loneliness epidemic]
- more than 40% of people said they had no meaningful relationship IRL
- had been increasing for 10 years
A Lack Of Meaning Making:
- feel that life is meaningless
- lack of social bond will also lack sense of meaning in life
- 40% of population in 2017 saw their job as meaningless; another 20% reported strong lack of meaning
- poll found that worldwide only 30% of people described their work as meaningful
14:30 Sidebar:Lack Of sense-making; discussion of how people in general can not seem to grasp some very basic facts around an issue if said fact confound their preconceived ideas. Desmet contends that this is a problem that has been increasing for 200 years.
High Levels Of Free Floating Anxiety & Psychological Discontent:
- anxiety that is not connected to a mental representation [e.g. a lion in the dark we know what to do to avoid the fear and have a sense of control]
- feel entirely helpless because we don't know what action to take to avoid the fear
- more difficult for humans than animals to make sense of life because of our use of language
- just before the corona crisis anxiety was very high; 1 in 5 diagnosed with an anxiety disorder
- many more were confronted with anxiety or psychological discontent
- in Belgium [11M people] 300 million doses of antidepressants are used each year
- this has been steeply increasing over the past 10 years
- demoralization: a loss of connection between your cognitive map and the world you are actually living in
A Lot Of Free Floating Aggression & Frustration:
- if people feel disconnected, without meaning, then they will typically feel frustration
-people start to look for an object, a mental representation, to which they can attach their anxiety and frustration
- if under these conditions a narrative is distributed in society through the mass media indicating an object of anxiety and providing a strategy to deal with this object of anxiety something very specific happens...
all of this free floating anxiety might connect to the object of anxiety indicated in the narrative and people might be extremely willing to participate in the strategy to deal with the object of anxiety as indicated in the narrative.
- All of this free floating anxiety is now connected to an object meaning that people gain a sense of psychological control of their situation.- lack of connectedness with other people
- can occur without physical isolation
- people feel lonely and emotionally disconnected
- this was huge in the years leading up to the crisis [loneliness epidemic]
- more than 40% of people said they had no meaningful relationship IRL
- had been increasing for 10 years
A Lack Of Meaning Making:
- feel that life is meaningless
- lack of social bond will also lack sense of meaning in life
- 40% of population in 2017 saw their job as meaningless; another 20% reported strong lack of meaning
- poll found that worldwide only 30% of people described their work as meaningful
14:30 Sidebar:Lack Of sense-making; discussion of how people in general can not seem to grasp some very basic facts around an issue if said fact confound their preconceived ideas. Desmet contends that this is a problem that has been increasing for 200 years.
High Levels Of Free Floating Anxiety & Psychological Discontent:
- anxiety that is not connected to a mental representation [e.g. a lion in the dark we know what to do to avoid the fear and have a sense of control]
- feel entirely helpless because we don't know what action to take to avoid the fear
- more difficult for humans than animals to make sense of life because of our use of language
- just before the corona crisis anxiety was very high; 1 in 5 diagnosed with an anxiety disorder
- many more were confronted with anxiety or psychological discontent
- in Belgium [11M people] 300 million doses of antidepressants are used each year
- this has been steeply increasing over the past 10 years
- demoralization: a loss of connection between your cognitive map and the world you are actually living in
A Lot Of Free Floating Aggression & Frustration:
- if people feel disconnected, without meaning, then they will typically feel frustration
-people start to look for an object, a mental representation, to which they can attach their anxiety and frustration
- if under these conditions a narrative is distributed in society through the mass media indicating an object of anxiety and providing a strategy to deal with this object of anxiety something very specific happens...
all of this free floating anxiety might connect to the object of anxiety indicated in the narrative and people might be extremely willing to participate in the strategy to deal with the object of anxiety as indicated in the narrative.
- Because many people participate in the same strategy to deal with the object of anxiety a new type of social bond emerges so people feel connected again in a new way.
-Everything is about solidarity.You have to social distance. You have to accept the vaccine. If you don't you lack citizenship; you show no solidarity.
-THE REAL REASON PEOPLE BUY INTO THE STORY, EVEN IF IT IS UTTERLY ABSURD, IS NOT BELIEF IN THE NARRATIVE BUT BECAUSE THE NARRATIVE LEADS TO THE NEW SOCIAL BOND.
-ALL OF THE FRUSTRATION AND AGGRESSION CAN BE DIRECTED AT AN OBJECT, AND THAT OBJECT IS THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MASS FORMATION.
- Only about 30% is really into this process of collective hypnosis, this mass formation, then another 40% to 50% will never go against the curve, then another 20%, maybe 10% who is not hypnotized at all and wants to really speak out against the situation.
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First 25 minutes.
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01-02-2022, 09:34 AM
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- The measures [masks, social distancing, shots] function as a ritual without pragmatic meaning that require people to make a sacrifice; it doesn't matter if the measures are absurd or not.
- People are willing to ritualistically sacrifice their children [harm to development done by masking] to show their solidarity.
- People don't seem to be aware of the collateral damage of the measures; it has not cognitive impact.
- Deaths from the virus are terrible; deaths from the measures have no impact [suicides, overdoses, financial ruin].
- Mass formation is similar to hypnosis. People who are in the grasp of mass formation are not aware of the egoistic disadvantages that they suffer. You can take away their life, health, wealth, future, and freedom- he will not be aware of it. He is so gripped by hypnosis.
- When historians saw what was happening in the Soviet Union and in Nazi Germany historians saw something that they could not understand. Everything started with mass formation so that the totalitarian state had an extreme power over individuals; much different from a classical dictatorship.
- Usually about 80% of people are susceptible to hypnosis to some level. In mass formation only about 30% are deeply in the grip of mass formation. There is no correlation between susceptibility to mass formation and higher or lower intelligence. The most intelligent people can be completely blind to argumentation against the narrative.
- It is very hard to undo mass formation. In the bookThe Psychology Of The CrowdsLe Bon states thatif the people who are not part of the mass formation try to wake the hypnotized they will fail, but must continue to speak out as the hypnosis will become less deep and atrocities may be prevented.
Totalitarianism always tries to establish an artificial world and an artificial society which can be entirely rationally controlled and manipulated. That is the ultimate goal of a certain mechanistic ideology which is a goal of totalitarianism.
In the end they are willing to sacrifice 50% of humanity or even 100% of humanity to make their ideological fiction real. That is the absurdness of this kind of thinking.
- People are willing to ritualistically sacrifice their children [harm to development done by masking] to show their solidarity.
- People don't seem to be aware of the collateral damage of the measures; it has not cognitive impact.
- Deaths from the virus are terrible; deaths from the measures have no impact [suicides, overdoses, financial ruin].
- Mass formation is similar to hypnosis. People who are in the grasp of mass formation are not aware of the egoistic disadvantages that they suffer. You can take away their life, health, wealth, future, and freedom- he will not be aware of it. He is so gripped by hypnosis.
- When historians saw what was happening in the Soviet Union and in Nazi Germany historians saw something that they could not understand. Everything started with mass formation so that the totalitarian state had an extreme power over individuals; much different from a classical dictatorship.
- Usually about 80% of people are susceptible to hypnosis to some level. In mass formation only about 30% are deeply in the grip of mass formation. There is no correlation between susceptibility to mass formation and higher or lower intelligence. The most intelligent people can be completely blind to argumentation against the narrative.
- It is very hard to undo mass formation. In the bookThe Psychology Of The CrowdsLe Bon states thatif the people who are not part of the mass formation try to wake the hypnotized they will fail, but must continue to speak out as the hypnosis will become less deep and atrocities may be prevented.
How can we wake the masses? Will repetition help? In the US All Cause Mortality is higher than in previous years. Would messaging pushing to lower All Cause Mortality help wake the masses?
Desmet:It may help some.Try to talk in a sincere in honest way. Try to continue to speak out. Try to continue to see that there is a dissident voice in the public space.
In a totalitarian state leaders are not aware to know that it will be to their own disadvantage if they continue to commit atrocities. It gets much worse once they are the only voice in the public space.
These leaders are hypnotized by their own ideology. They don't believe what they tell the people, but they are so convinced that what they are trying to do in society, that the ideology that they are trying to impose on society will bring society to a kind of paradise, they are so convinced that what they are doing is a good thing they feel that it is justified to lie, to cheat, manipulate, and so on.They are absolutely ideologically hypnotized, they are hypnotized by their ideology. Something that is radically different from classical dictatorships.
Desmet:It may help some.Try to talk in a sincere in honest way. Try to continue to speak out. Try to continue to see that there is a dissident voice in the public space.
In a totalitarian state leaders are not aware to know that it will be to their own disadvantage if they continue to commit atrocities. It gets much worse once they are the only voice in the public space.
These leaders are hypnotized by their own ideology. They don't believe what they tell the people, but they are so convinced that what they are trying to do in society, that the ideology that they are trying to impose on society will bring society to a kind of paradise, they are so convinced that what they are doing is a good thing they feel that it is justified to lie, to cheat, manipulate, and so on.They are absolutely ideologically hypnotized, they are hypnotized by their ideology. Something that is radically different from classical dictatorships.
The government is using known developed techniques to manipulate the public psychology [Bernays, neuro-linguistic programming].
Desmet:Many of our leaders are convinced that we need to move from a democratic system to a technocratic system.The feel that it is justified to use psychological techniques such as nudging to make people believe in the narrative.
Our leaders believe at the ideological level that they do the right thing even choose for the only possible solution and I think that many of them while not really believing the narratives that they are distributing, I think that many of them will consider the narratives as a kind of tool to make the ideology happen.
Desmet:Many of our leaders are convinced that we need to move from a democratic system to a technocratic system.The feel that it is justified to use psychological techniques such as nudging to make people believe in the narrative.
Our leaders believe at the ideological level that they do the right thing even choose for the only possible solution and I think that many of them while not really believing the narratives that they are distributing, I think that many of them will consider the narratives as a kind of tool to make the ideology happen.
When I talk to this Davos crowd they believe in this story that I think is real; that by 2050 we will need 3 planet's of resources and we only have one, so we need a plan B. Their plan B is this technocracy nirvana.
Desmet:Just because people believe they are doing the right thing doesn't mean that it is not dangerous.
From a science point of view this idea of being able to control everything is absurd.We all know that complex dynamical systems are unpredictable; they have this characteristic of deterministic unpredictability.They should realize that they started something that will only lead up to one thing- self-destruction.And that's exactly what people like Aarons and Le Bon describe thattotalitarianism always destroys itself, always.
It's so important to realize. Because the people who do not buy into the narrative, who do not go along with the narrative, we just gave them the advice of what they can do to continue to speak out, that is one important advice.
But the second one is, the best strategy, always, is non-violent resistance. Always.
Every kind of violence used against the system will be used as a justification for the aggression and frustration to be channeled to that group.
The group that doesn't buy into the narrative doesn't have to destroy the system. The system will destroy itself. Always.And that's why it's very often necessary to establish a kind of parallel structure to allow people to survive independent from the system for a little while. People think they can control processes as they are happening now, but they can not. Science shows us in the most clear cut way.
Totalitarianism increases isolation and destroys bonds between individuals, and only allows a bond between the individual and the state.Desmet:Just because people believe they are doing the right thing doesn't mean that it is not dangerous.
From a science point of view this idea of being able to control everything is absurd.We all know that complex dynamical systems are unpredictable; they have this characteristic of deterministic unpredictability.They should realize that they started something that will only lead up to one thing- self-destruction.And that's exactly what people like Aarons and Le Bon describe thattotalitarianism always destroys itself, always.
It's so important to realize. Because the people who do not buy into the narrative, who do not go along with the narrative, we just gave them the advice of what they can do to continue to speak out, that is one important advice.
But the second one is, the best strategy, always, is non-violent resistance. Always.
Every kind of violence used against the system will be used as a justification for the aggression and frustration to be channeled to that group.
The group that doesn't buy into the narrative doesn't have to destroy the system. The system will destroy itself. Always.And that's why it's very often necessary to establish a kind of parallel structure to allow people to survive independent from the system for a little while. People think they can control processes as they are happening now, but they can not. Science shows us in the most clear cut way.
Totalitarianism always tries to establish an artificial world and an artificial society which can be entirely rationally controlled and manipulated. That is the ultimate goal of a certain mechanistic ideology which is a goal of totalitarianism.
In the end they are willing to sacrifice 50% of humanity or even 100% of humanity to make their ideological fiction real. That is the absurdness of this kind of thinking.
Speaking the truth is always dangerous.You can define truth as that part of knowledge that is in conflict with public discourse. As soon as a narrative is dominant in public space you will start to feel that the narrative is incomplete and that someone should say in public space that there is a problem with the dominant narrative.
The ancient Greeks knew that the one who tells it,the one who tries to say what everybody feels but that no one dares to say, that person is in danger.That's what the ancient Greeks considered speaking the truth.
We should continue to try to do it.
There is no other option. If we shut up we are in danger as well.
Without this dissident voice the system will close and will become radically self-destructive.
We have to try to establish a noble conversation as much as possible in society. In the end the hypnotized are human as well.
The ancient Greeks knew that the one who tells it,the one who tries to say what everybody feels but that no one dares to say, that person is in danger.That's what the ancient Greeks considered speaking the truth.
We should continue to try to do it.
There is no other option. If we shut up we are in danger as well.
Without this dissident voice the system will close and will become radically self-destructive.
We have to try to establish a noble conversation as much as possible in society. In the end the hypnotized are human as well.
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01-02-2022, 09:38 AM
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You just described every liberal that I know
Deep down inside they really just want to be part of a group because they grew up outcasts even if it's at the expense of our country
Deep down inside they really just want to be part of a group because they grew up outcasts even if it's at the expense of our country
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01-02-2022, 11:02 AM
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Bumping for full outline...or at least as best I could do on the fly.
BIG CLIFFS:
- society was vulnerable to mass formation psychosis [lack of connection, anxiety, lack of meaning, frustration]
- a narrative was circulated re:covid measures which gave many people a sense of control and connection that they had been lacking
- those who go against the rituals proscribed by the narrative are cast as selfish and as enemies of the common good
- those in power are intentionally manipulating public sentiment and appear to be working towards a transformation from democracy to technocracy
- these leaders may be well aware that they are manipulating and lying to the public, but also believe that it is justified to bring about this totalitarian technocracy as they see it as necessary to save humanity from overshoot
- totalitarianism is capable of creating mass atrocities incomparably to traditional dictatorships
- totalitarianism always destroys itself
- keep talking about the holes you see in the narrative because it matters and may reduce the depth of hypnosis and the severity of atrocities
- connect with people, embrace non-violent resistance, and form parallel systems if needed to survive the totalitarian regime
BIG CLIFFS:
- society was vulnerable to mass formation psychosis [lack of connection, anxiety, lack of meaning, frustration]
- a narrative was circulated re:covid measures which gave many people a sense of control and connection that they had been lacking
- those who go against the rituals proscribed by the narrative are cast as selfish and as enemies of the common good
- those in power are intentionally manipulating public sentiment and appear to be working towards a transformation from democracy to technocracy
- these leaders may be well aware that they are manipulating and lying to the public, but also believe that it is justified to bring about this totalitarian technocracy as they see it as necessary to save humanity from overshoot
- totalitarianism is capable of creating mass atrocities incomparably to traditional dictatorships
- totalitarianism always destroys itself
- keep talking about the holes you see in the narrative because it matters and may reduce the depth of hypnosis and the severity of atrocities
- connect with people, embrace non-violent resistance, and form parallel systems if needed to survive the totalitarian regime
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01-02-2022, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted By katya422⏩
cliffs too long huney bunny.Bumping for full outline...or at least as best I could do on the fly.
BIG CLIFFS:
- society was vulnerable to mass formation psychosis [lack of connection, anxiety, lack of meaning, frustration]
- a narrative was circulated re:covid measures which gave many people a sense of control and connection that they had been lacking
- those who go against the rituals proscribed by the narrative are cast as selfish and as enemies of the common good
- those in power are intentionally manipulating public sentiment and appear to be working towards a transformation from democracy to technocracy
- these leaders may be well aware that they are manipulating and lying to the public, but also believe that it is justified to bring about this totalitarian technocracy as they see it as necessary to save humanity from overshoot
- totalitarianism is capable of creating mass atrocities incomparably to traditional dictatorships
- totalitarianism always destroys itself
- keep talking about the holes you see in the narrative because it matters and may reduce the depth of hypnosis and the severity of atrocities
- connect with people, embrace non-violent resistance, and form parallel systems if needed to survive the totalitarian regime
BIG CLIFFS:
- society was vulnerable to mass formation psychosis [lack of connection, anxiety, lack of meaning, frustration]
- a narrative was circulated re:covid measures which gave many people a sense of control and connection that they had been lacking
- those who go against the rituals proscribed by the narrative are cast as selfish and as enemies of the common good
- those in power are intentionally manipulating public sentiment and appear to be working towards a transformation from democracy to technocracy
- these leaders may be well aware that they are manipulating and lying to the public, but also believe that it is justified to bring about this totalitarian technocracy as they see it as necessary to save humanity from overshoot
- totalitarianism is capable of creating mass atrocities incomparably to traditional dictatorships
- totalitarianism always destroys itself
- keep talking about the holes you see in the narrative because it matters and may reduce the depth of hypnosis and the severity of atrocities
- connect with people, embrace non-violent resistance, and form parallel systems if needed to survive the totalitarian regime
01-02-2022, 11:56 AM
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People also don't want to put in the effort to feel better. It's easier to just get a prescription for some pill, than put the work in on your mental, physically, and spiritual health. Instead of relying on a pill to play with the chemical balances in your chemistry, why not put forth a legitimate effort to combat the anxiety? Fix your diet, start exercising, stay active, read a book, hang out with friends, meditate, stretch, laugh, etc. Will work way better than some stupid pill 2x a day. It's amazing what hanging out with some friends can do for my mood.
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01-02-2022, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted By messomi⏩
Guy it is an hour and twenty and he talks fast.cliffs too long huney bunny.
Srs I only hit the main sentences in the "executive summary" and the cliffs are even shorter.
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About halfway through.
Excellent vid. Thanks for posting.
Excellent vid. Thanks for posting.
Share it where you can. The more people that are aware the better.
Originally Posted By SuperHercules⏩
Is this the brain virus that popped up in the news a few months ago? Only in one province?In other news, mysterious new "disease" among young jabcels in Canada appears
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01-02-2022, 12:46 PM
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Excellent thread and needs to stay active at least for a few days.
I don't have time RN for a longer reply but maybe later.
On a related note, a thread I made a few months ago ...
THREAD: How to defeat totalitarianism
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180666263
I don't have time RN for a longer reply but maybe later.
On a related note, a thread I made a few months ago ...
THREAD: How to defeat totalitarianism
https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180666263
Originally Posted By LukeLissen⏩
excellent food for thought ...
cliffs:
many among the people are to blame for a rise of totalitarianism
totalitarianism is only based in a bed of lies
it cannot succeed if the people don't support the lies
target the lies on which it is built
never knowingly support lies
live within the truth and help others to do so
cliffs:
many among the people are to blame for a rise of totalitarianism
totalitarianism is only based in a bed of lies
it cannot succeed if the people don't support the lies
target the lies on which it is built
never knowingly support lies
live within the truth and help others to do so
01-02-2022, 12:51 PM
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01-02-2022, 01:01 PM
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01-02-2022, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Maybe it'll happen faster this time than it has historically.Problem with that is how people tend to eventually acknowledge a common enemy.
Fascism was billed, and accepted, as the solution to communism.
01-02-2022, 01:27 PM
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I've already known this. At the end of the day it's a war between the ruling class (1%) and everyone else
Yes they are using propaganda, social media, pandemics, drugs, chemicals and whatever else to wage war on your consciousness and well being
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01-02-2022, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
I see it as dividing the 99% and pitting them against one another. If they can get people fighting amongst themselves, nobody is looking at them.I've already known this. At the end of the day it's a war between the ruling class (1%) and everyone else
Yes they are using propaganda, social media, pandemics, drugs, chemicals and whatever else to wage war on your consciousness and well being
Yes they are using propaganda, social media, pandemics, drugs, chemicals and whatever else to wage war on your consciousness and well being
01-02-2022, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Suddenly everyone decided to put the Nazis in power...Maybe it'll happen faster this time than it has historically.
Fascism was billed, and accepted, as the solution to communism.
Fascism was billed, and accepted, as the solution to communism.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
01-02-2022, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Like I said, the problem with that plan is the lack of a common enemy.I see it as dividing the 99% and pitting them against one another. If they can get people fighting amongst themselves, nobody is looking at them.
01-02-2022, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
You don't see how each "side" is constructing a common enemy?Like I said, the problem with that plan is the lack of a common enemy.
The Misc has "purebloods" vs "mudbloods" and some very angry people.
01-02-2022, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Thing is people are just people, and politicians and big business/media figures are easy targets.You don't see how each "side" is constructing a common enemy?
The Misc has "purebloods" vs "mudbloods" and some very angry people.
The Misc has "purebloods" vs "mudbloods" and some very angry people.
01-02-2022, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By JayJ350⏩
Agreed.Thing is people are just people, and politicians and big business/media figures are easy targets.
But the strategy is to pit people against one another. When people are busy being angry at their neighbours, they don't notice what those in power are doing.
Social media censorship benefits both "sides"; outrage, vindication, and fuel for the fight simultaneously with a single move.
There's plenty of money to be made for skeptics as well as for pharma.
01-02-2022, 01:56 PM
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Excellent OP, thanks.
I think this is a clear cut fight between good and evil.
Common sense vs mind control
Freedom vs totalitarianism
People that want to go back to their lives vs people that want to control it
The pieces have been laid out. On the side of good are holy warriors De Santis, Peter McCullough, Robert Malone. On the side of evil are Fauci, Newsom, lori lightfoot and their foot soldiers who are happy to do their bidding ( femtoids,soyboys etc)
There is no center here. There is no both siding this.
I think this is a clear cut fight between good and evil.
Common sense vs mind control
Freedom vs totalitarianism
People that want to go back to their lives vs people that want to control it
The pieces have been laid out. On the side of good are holy warriors De Santis, Peter McCullough, Robert Malone. On the side of evil are Fauci, Newsom, lori lightfoot and their foot soldiers who are happy to do their bidding ( femtoids,soyboys etc)
There is no center here. There is no both siding this.
01-02-2022, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Agreed.
But the strategy is to pit people against one another. When people are busy being angry at their neighbours, they don't notice what those in power are doing.
Social media censorship benefits both "sides"; outrage, vindication, and fuel for the fight simultaneously with a single move.
There's plenty of money to be made for skeptics as well as for pharma.
But the strategy is to pit people against one another. When people are busy being angry at their neighbours, they don't notice what those in power are doing.
Social media censorship benefits both "sides"; outrage, vindication, and fuel for the fight simultaneously with a single move.
There's plenty of money to be made for skeptics as well as for pharma.
Originally Posted By PenguinWarrior⏩
There we goExcellent OP, thanks.
I think this is a clear cut fight between good and evil.
Common sense vs mind control
Freedom vs totalitarianism
People that want to go back to their lives vs people that want to control it
The pieces have been laid out. On the side of good are holy warriors De Santis, Peter McCullough, Robert Malone. On the side of evil are femtoids, soyboys, Fauci, Newsom, lori lightfoot.
There is no center here. There is no both siding this.
I think this is a clear cut fight between good and evil.
Common sense vs mind control
Freedom vs totalitarianism
People that want to go back to their lives vs people that want to control it
The pieces have been laid out. On the side of good are holy warriors De Santis, Peter McCullough, Robert Malone. On the side of evil are femtoids, soyboys, Fauci, Newsom, lori lightfoot.
There is no center here. There is no both siding this.
01-02-2022, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Dude I'm all for loving thy neighbor but when one side is advocating for giving injections and having 3 year olds wear mask for perpetuity then I know which side is right.There we go
And the sad part is I was able to say that without strawmanning their side. They DO want to jab the kids and they do want kids to wear masks for perpetuity.
Like Robert Malone said to Joe Rogan, that's the hill I'm going to lie on.
Again the globo homo 1 percent might be the puppet masters but it couldn't have happened without their idiot foot soldiers
01-02-2022, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
True but the only way this changes if people stop consuming the msm and the big tech giantsI see it as dividing the 99% and pitting them against one another. If they can get people fighting amongst themselves, nobody is looking at them.
But mostly the msm
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
We aren’t against vaccinated people. No one here gives a sh!t if you and everyone else get booster injections every three months from here til the end of your life. What we are against is saying that people must take an experimental injection to keep their job. That people must get the injection to go to the gym or participate in other aspects of society. That we should inject millions of kids with this concoction. That it’s perfectly ok to censor speech as long as our dear leaders decide it’s ok. And not only that…only one side is “looking at them”. Who is criticizing these measures? Who is adamantly pointing out how horrible the track records of pharmaceutical companies and their bureaucratic overseers are?I see it as dividing the 99% and pitting them against one another. If they can get people fighting amongst themselves, nobody is looking at them.
But out of curiosity, who is this “them” that you speak of?
Oh yeah, and subbed so I can come back and dive into the video when I have time.
01-02-2022, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By PenguinWarrior⏩
Who do you consider to be "femtoids" and/or "soyboys"?Dude I'm all for loving thy neighbor but when one side is advocating for giving injections and having 3 year olds wear mask for perpetuity then I know which side is right.
And the sad part is I was able to say that without strawmanning their side. They DO want to jab the kids and they do want kids to wear masks for perpetuity.
Like Robert Malone said to Joe Rogan, that's the hill I'm going to lie on.
Again the globo homo 1 percent might be the puppet masters but it couldn't have happened without their idiot foot soldiers
And the sad part is I was able to say that without strawmanning their side. They DO want to jab the kids and they do want kids to wear masks for perpetuity.
Like Robert Malone said to Joe Rogan, that's the hill I'm going to lie on.
Again the globo homo 1 percent might be the puppet masters but it couldn't have happened without their idiot foot soldiers
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