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post 1653733233 01-04-2022, 05:02 PM
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Reminder: if you use the term “Marxism” or “Marxist” as an insult…

The following things are true:


a) you’ve never actually read the works of Karl Marx
b) your IQ is 80 or below
c) perhaps most ironically, you are trading hours of your life (labour) at a price (wage) which represents an ever diminishing share of profit

Spoiler!
describing everything you don’t like as “Marxist” is roughly as intelligent as when liberals label everyone they don’t like as Hitler


Inb4 “bUt mUH COmMunIsM” lmao
post 1653733443 01-04-2022, 05:05 PM
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Sounds like some Marxist bull chit to me
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post 1653733463 01-04-2022, 05:06 PM
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Okay you fascist
post 1653733513 01-04-2022, 05:07 PM
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I’ve only ever seen Incels online use this as an insult

Any professional in finance or a guy who has it going on or whatever wouldn’t even know this term as an insult lmao
post 1653733563 01-04-2022, 05:08 PM
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OP how's that lockdown treating you? Still mad you can buy a gun yet?

Marxist, communist loser
post 1653733583 01-04-2022, 05:08 PM
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Classic bolshevik divisiveness
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post 1653733723 01-04-2022, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted By Tears
OP how's that lockdown treating you? Still mad you can buy a gun yet?

Marxist, communist loser
Sub-80 IQ detected
post 1653734263 01-04-2022, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Sub-80 IQ detected
Says the guy too smooth brained to know where the R/P is.

Get a clue, fascist *******
post 1653734623 01-04-2022, 05:34 PM
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You should share 80% your wealth then OP. Limit the amount of properties you can invest in and give the rest if us your money since you support it so much.
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post 1653734833 01-04-2022, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted By DavidEaslea
You should share 80% your wealth then OP. Limit the amount of properties you can invest in and give the rest if us your money since you support it so much.
Not relevant to the OP but you can have 47% plus an additional 1% to fund public health and that’s as high as I’ll go
post 1653735213 01-04-2022, 05:47 PM
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post 1653735473 01-04-2022, 05:52 PM
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Fair point. They’re actually neo-marxists.
post 1653735483 01-04-2022, 05:53 PM
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Yeah okay, Karl.
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post 1653735633 01-04-2022, 05:55 PM
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post 1653735793 01-04-2022, 05:59 PM
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Is the model even possible in reality? Or is it more of a tool to overthrow power structures and centralize power?
See you tomorrow
post 1653736193 01-04-2022, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By Pterodactyl314
Is the model even possible in reality? Or is it more of a tool to overthrow power structures and centralize power?
The battle between labour and capital for profit share is ongoing

Unfortunately labour has been getting its ass handed back to it for like 50 +years lmao
post 1653736933 01-04-2022, 06:23 PM
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Marxism shows the power of brainwashing in humans...

Doesn't matter how daft and anti human nature its tenets are, proponents will bury their head in the sand and continue to cut their nose off to spite their face.

Same types of people who think free market capitalism exists when corps and the guvmint are one in the same. "Ignorantly stupid" doesn't begin to encapsulate their ailment.
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post 1653737373 01-04-2022, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By BasedNobleman
Marxism shows the power of brainwashing in humans...

Doesn't matter how daft and anti human nature its tenets are, proponents will bury their head in the sand and continue to cut their nose off to spite their face.

Same types of people who think free market capitalism exists when corps and the guvmint are one in the same. "Ignorantly stupid" doesn't begin to encapsulate their ailment.
Lol yeah I remember after the GFC when the governments used public money to bail out private companies

IIRC there was going to be something done to prevent “too big to fail” firms and the resulting socialism when they don’t manage their risks properly

Whatever happened with that
post 1653737393 01-04-2022, 06:31 PM
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Marx was smart. I have no idea how he managed to predict boom-bust iterations of capitalism.

That being said, he underestimated how capitalism/free-market economies can reform themselves.

Also, his proposed system does not take into account the greed of human nature. Key ingredient.
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My first problem with Marx is that he lived off the labor of the factory workers that his friend employed.

He was basically a retard spoiled cry baby moron fatty, and yes I have read his stuff and about his stuff more than OP, I am from the Soviet Union and I’m old, lol


Op, People like my family came to capitalism from Marxism, notice how it never works the other way around, there’s a reason for that,
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sounds like you have empathy for that particular crowd being misappropriated.
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Originally Posted By ClivesTriceps
lol you're dressed exactly the same in your avi
post 1653739563 01-04-2022, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted By kusok
My first problem with Marx is that he lived off the labor of the factory workers that his friend employed.

He was basically a retard spoiled cry baby moron fatty, and yes I have read his stuff and about his stuff more than OP, I am from the Soviet Union and I’m old, lol


Op, People like my family came to capitalism from Marxism, notice how it never works the other way around, there’s a reason for that,
Aware me on which are the capitalist economies

Spoiler!
if the country used public money to bail out private companies to protect them from the consequences of their own poor risk-management, that’s not capitalism
post 1653739773 01-04-2022, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Aware me on which are the capitalist economies

if the country used public money to bail out private companies to protect them from the consequences of their own poor risk-management, that’s not capitalism
So you have no clue what you’re arguing for then
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Originally Posted By SwagMorris
So you have no clue what you’re arguing for then
I think you misunderstood

This is not an argument it’s just a PSA
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OP doesn't realise Marxism as he understands it doesn't exist.

Marxism is not an economic system, it is a tool of manipulation. The Marxist manipulation is to teach people that there are two groups in society, an oppressor group and an oppressed group. They then get the least agreeable of the so called oppressed group and the most agreeable of the oppressor group to support them.

The end goal is to achieve power and wealth by manipulating people. Which is why all Marxists countries end up as a oligarchy.

The groups can come in any form:
Workers - capitalists (the original)
Women - Men
Black - White
Gay - Straight


This is why OP doesn't understand why Marxist is an insult. He thinks Marxism is about improving the lives of poor people, when it's really about splitting society and then using manipulated people to achieve power.
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Originally Posted By PimpinisEasy
OP doesn't realise Marxism as he understands it doesn't exist.

Marxism is not an economic system, it is a tool of manipulation. The Marxist manipulation is to teach people that there are two groups in society, an oppressor group and an oppressed group. They then get the least agreeable of the so called oppressed group and the most agreeable of the oppressor group to support them.

The end goal is to achieve power and wealth by manipulating people. Which is why all Marxists countries end up as a oligarchy.

The groups can come in any form:
Workers - capitalists (the original)
Women - Men
Black - White
Gay - Straight


This is why OP doesn't understand why Marxist is an insult. He thinks Marxism is about improving the lives of poor people, when it's really about splitting society and then using manipulated people to achieve power.
Shareholders coordinate their actions to extract the maximum profit share through their board of directors

Of course we can’t possibly let workers do the same thing through a union LMAO

Now back in your cagie
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I’ve studied Marxism in depth, and you sir, are a Marxist pha66ot
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Originally Posted By r32gojirra
Shareholders coordinate their actions to extract the maximum profit share through their board of directors

Of course we can’t possibly let workers do the same thing through a union LMAO

Now back in your cagie
Workers rate of pay is primarily determined by:
- Availability of labour
- Productivity

Capitalism has vastly increased the standard of living of 'poor' people.

If you increase peoples pay through unions, you decrease their productivity. Decreased productivity results in inflation, inflation disproportionally impacts poorer people while making everyone poorer overall.

Ironically your solution to help poor people actually hurts them. An unintended consequence of having a low IQ.

The only meaningful way to improve peoples standard of living is to increase their productivity.
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