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post 1653779603 01-05-2022, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
It's just odd that he sought the limelight after being upset he wasn't acknowledged for these vaccines. Either in the patents or awards.

He even told the nurse who administered his Moderna shot that he invented it, so she took a selfie with him.

Now he says they are more harmful than helpful.

But his new drug is probably the answer. I wonder if he'll be on that patent?
It's odd how you're a ****ing ******* pile of steaming **** pharma shill but here we are.
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
It's odd how you're a ****ing ******* pile of steaming **** pharma shill but here we are.
JLC is using classic longstanding shills tactics.

-Refute every point made with bs and garbage links
-pretend to not understand what youre saying
-claim the mountains of evidence produced are fake or fraud
-call you names to get you angry
-rinse and repeat

Their goal is to derail the thread off topic, sow as much doubt as possible in lurkers minds, and above all make you angry so you get into a pissing match and stop posting the truth of whatever youre discussing.

You see these same patterns across the internet
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Are you planning to share any of the countless studies demonstrating ivermectin and/or HCQ efficacy that were not included in the NIH review and thus ignored by the CDC
are you willing to not being a lying **** stain pharma shill?
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Originally Posted By knightofday
JLC is using classic longstanding shills tactics.

-Refute every point made with bs and garbage links
-pretend to not understand what youre saying
-claim the mountains of evidence produced are fake or fraud
-call you names to get you angry
-rinse and repeat

Their goal is to derail the thread off topic, sow as much doubt as possible in lurkers minds, and above all make you angry so you get into a pissing match and stop posting the truth of whatever youre discussing.

You see these same patterns across the internet
people waste their time and effort replying to him with respect when he gives none in return, only twisted cuck shill lies. If everyone just stopped replying to him but instead just calling him what he is (a pile of fkin trash scum of a human etc) and moved on we wouldn't what could be fruit bearing conversations derailed into bloated J.L.C mental gymnastic pharma shill c0k sucking wall of garbage posts.

I have zero faith this will happen as people still make and reply to SS threads.
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post 1653782723 01-05-2022, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted By knightofday
JLC is using classic longstanding shills tactics.

-Refute every point made with bs and garbage links
-pretend to not understand what youre saying
-claim the mountains of evidence produced are fake or fraud
-call you names to get you angry
-rinse and repeat

Their goal is to derail the thread off topic, sow as much doubt as possible in lurkers minds, and above all make you angry so you get into a pissing match and stop posting the truth of whatever youre discussing.

You see these same patterns across the internet
I posted peer reviewed articles and pre-prints. Which links are you calling "garbage"?

In response to requesting which ivermectin and HCQ papers were ignored, I got two random links with no specifics.

I asked for evidence. None was produced, so how would I say it's fake or fraud? Isn't that what other people are arguing? That we can't trust what's published and should instead trust Malone's opinions and claims, with no sources of support?

Please post an example of me calling anyone a name. I'm happy to provide plenty of name calling and death threats pointed my way

Those are definitely longstanding tactics employed by others who disagree with me. Weird.
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
people waste their time and effort replying to him with respect when he gives none in return, only twisted cuck shill lies. If everyone just stopped replying to him but instead just calling him what he is (a pile of fkin trash scum of a human etc) and moved on we wouldn't what could be fruit bearing conversations derailed into bloated J.L.C mental gymnastic pharma shill c0k sucking wall of garbage posts.

I have zero faith this will happen as people still make and reply to SS threads.
I don’t waste my time with trolls, but will actually spend effort to counter a shill. Not saying 100% he is, but he certainly displays some key characteristics as pointed out above.
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
**** you you dirt fkin cock sucker. I would smile at the sight of your tombstone.
Originally Posted By Joseph1990
are you willing to not being a lying **** stain pharma shill?
Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I don’t waste my time with trolls, but will actually spend effort to counter a shill. Not saying 100% he is, but he certainly displays some key characteristics as pointed out above.
Which ones? Seriously. I'd like to understand the anger.

Malone runs a pharma company. Do people think competitors do the circuit presenting unbiased opinions of competitors products?

"Mass formation psychosis", indeed.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
I posted peer reviewed articles and pre-prints. Which links are you calling "garbage"?

In response to requesting which ivermectin and HCQ papers were ignored, I got two random links with no specifics.

I asked for evidence. None was produced, so how would I say it's fake or fraud? Isn't that what other people are arguing? That we can't trust what's published and should instead trust Malone's opinions and claims, with no sources of support?

Please post an example of me calling anyone a name. I'm happy to provide plenty of name calling and death threats pointed my way

Those are definitely longstanding tactics employed by others who disagree with me. Weird.
I assumed you are aware that there are lots of studies showing that both of those drugs can be helpful as an early treatment to Covid. If they do exist, which again you clearly realize they do and even acknowledged that one was included in an NIH report, and the FDA said there were no studies that showed they can be effective treatments, then you must acknowledge that the FDA ignored all of those studies when they made that claim. This is why people call you a shill. Playing dumb and derailing threads when you obviously realize the point being made as long as you’re not a full blown potato. But really all you’re doing is bumping the thread so even more people can see it and watch how terrible your attempt at defending the terrible policies and attacking Malone is. Probably doesn’t matter to you since you probably get paid either way, but it may be important for other people reading the threads you seem to shill in.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
I assumed you are aware that there are lots of studies showing that both of those drugs can be helpful as an early treatment to Covid. If they do exist, which again you clearly realize they do and even acknowledged that one was included in an NIH report, and the FDA said there were no studies that showed they can be effective treatments, then you must acknowledge that the FDA ignored all of those studies when they made that claim. This is why people call you a shill. Playing dumb and derailing threads when you obviously realize the point being made as long as you’re not a full blown potato. But really all you’re doing is bumping the thread so even more people can see it and watch how terrible your attempt at defending the terrible policies and attacking Malone is. Probably doesn’t matter to you since you probably get paid either way, but it may be important for other people reading the threads you seem to shill in.
The NIH made the recommendation. They also provided the lit review. I posted it.

Malone runs a Pharma company and is competing in the same space. You think his opinion is unbiased?

You still haven't listed even one of the "countless studies" you say were ignored.

You demanded I list specific issues and support them. Why is that one sided?

Not addressing any support I offer and just continually calling me names like shill to dismiss anything I say sure looks a lot like what I was advised of above, no?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
The NIH made the recommendation. They also provided the lit review. I posted it.

Malone runs a Pharma company and is competing in the same space. You think his opinion is unbiased?

You still haven't listed even one of the "countless studies" you say were ignored.

You demanded I list specific issues and support them. Why is that one sided?

Not addressing any support I offer and just continually calling me names like shill to dismiss anything I say sure looks a lot like what I was advised of above, no?
One was already given to you yesterday and you’re still going on about it because you don’t care about the point being made, you just want to deflect and divert attention away from the entities doing all types of terrible sh!t. But here ya go….the same one you looked at yesterday.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/


So why were government agencies that oversee health in my country still saying there were no studies and tweeting in the most derogatory way possible to suggest ivermectin is only used for livestock and anyone who thinks it can be used in other ways is an idiot? I addressed all the support you provided and it
was pretty bad. Again, feel free to go back and read my response to every point you made. But instead, since it’s getting so difficult to defend that stuff, you’ll just try to lump Malone into the same boat which is just absurd. I guess ya gotta work with what ya got, no matter how bad it is.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
One was already given to you yesterday and you’re still going on about it because you don’t care about the point being made, you just want to deflect and divert attention away from the entities doing all types of terrible sh!t. But here ya go….the same one you looked at yesterday.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33278625/


So why were government agencies that oversee health in my country still saying there were no studies and tweeting in the most derogatory way possible to suggest ivermectin is only used for livestock and anyone who thinks it can be used in other ways is an idiot? I addressed all the support you provided and it
was pretty bad. Again, feel free to go back and read my response to every point you made. But instead, since it’s getting so difficult to defend that stuff, you’ll just try to lump Malone into the same boat which is just absurd. I guess ya gotta work with what ya got, no matter how bad it is.
As I said yesterday, that paper is in the NIH review (#16 in the reference list). Therefore it was not ignored, it was reviewed and included in the analyses and subsequent recommendation.

Your responses of "I don't like that and disagree and you're a shill" aren't well supported.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Which ones? Seriously. I'd like to understand the anger.
Here are some examples of a politician who's speaking style you replicate.






Nothing would make me as happy as knowing you could never post again.

Fist yourself with a shotgun *******
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
**** you you dirt fkin cock sucker. I would smile at the sight of your tombstone.
Originally Posted By Joseph1990
are you willing to not being a lying **** stain pharma shill?
Originally Posted By Joseph1990
Nothing would make me as happy as knowing you could never post again.

Fist yourself with a shotgun *******
Malone literally runs a pharma company.

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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
As I said yesterday, that paper is in the NIH review (#16 in the reference list). Therefore it was not ignored, it was reviewed and included in the analyses and subsequent recommendation.

Your responses of "I don't like that and disagree and you're a shill" aren't well supported.
You’re either too stupid to understand(quite possibly) or a paid shill(more likely). Anyone who reads your posts can see it.
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010
You’re either too stupid to understand(quite possibly) or a paid shill(more likely). Anyone who reads your posts can see it.
Great points! Thanks!
Originally Posted By knightofday
-Refute every point made with bs and garbage links
-pretend to not understand what youre saying
-claim the mountains of evidence produced are fake or fraud
-call you names to get you angry
-rinse and repeat

Their goal is to derail the thread off topic, sow as much doubt as possible in lurkers minds, and above all make you angry so you get into a pissing match and stop posting the truth of whatever youre discussing.

You see these same patterns across the internet
lulz
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Malone literally runs a pharma company.

there you go again *******. I never said anything about that ******* but here you are non sequitur like the fkin ******* you are.
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Originally Posted By Joseph1990
there you go again *******. I never said anything about that ******* but here you are non sequitur like the fkin ******* you are.
This thread is about his interview. Do you not consider him to be a shill?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
This thread is about his interview. Do you not consider him to be a shill?
I consider you to be a shill cuck ******* boi. Jab yourself and by jab yourself I mean fist yourself.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Which ones? Seriously. I'd like to understand the anger.

Malone runs a pharma company. Do people think competitors do the circuit presenting unbiased opinions of competitors products?

"Mass formation psychosis", indeed.
Where's the source on this btw. I listened to Malone since last year and he's never made mention of it. Instead he talks about generic medications.

And regardless, it begs the question why this would be a hang-up for you considering the undeniable and corrupt influence of the biggest pharmaceutical companies on medicine and media who are antagonistic to Malone.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Where's the source on this btw. I listened to Malone since last year and he's never made mention of it. Instead he talks about generic medications.

And regardless, it begs the question why this would be a hang-up for you considering the undeniable and corrupt influence of the biggest pharmaceutical companies on medicine and media who are antagonistic to Malone.
He runs Atheric Pharmaceutical

https://www.crunchbase.com/organizat...pharmaceutical

Note the contact email

It's not a hang-up. I have no skin in the game. I find it curious that people are only skeptical of one side in this mess.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
He runs Atheric Pharmaceutical

https://www.crunchbase.com/organizat...pharmaceutical

Note the contact email

It's not a hang-up. I have no skin in the game. I find it curious that people are only skeptical of one side in this mess.
**** off you ****ing ****ot. get the fkin vaccine and 4 boosters you fkin cuck i bet you wont.
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Originally Posted By CaliSuperSport
Where's the source on this btw. I listened to Malone since last year and he's never made mention of it. Instead he talks about generic medications.

And regardless, it begs the question why this would be a hang-up for you considering the undeniable and corrupt influence of the biggest pharmaceutical companies on medicine and media who are antagonistic to Malone.
IIRC Malone *previously* had a company which was attempting to research existing generic drugs to treat conditions other than the ones that they were initially tested and approved for.

He said that the FDA was very obstructive. Instead of allowing his company to use existing safety data on the medication the FDA was insisting that they do completely new trials from scratch which would take years before they could begin trials of the generics for treatment of other conditions.

They were looking for txmts for Zika in 2016:
https://www.usciences.edu/news/2016/...d-in-plos.html

ETA: wasn't 07/08

Malone spoke about his company in the old DarkHorse podcast that he did with Steve Kirsch and Bret Weinstein. Don't know if it is available to stream.
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Originally Posted By katya422
IIRC Malone *previously* had a company which was attempting to research existing generic drugs to treat conditions other than the ones that they were initially tested and approved for.

He said that the FDA was very obstructive. Instead of allowing his company to use existing safety data on the medication the FDA was insisting that they do completely new trials from scratch which would take years before they could begin trials of the generics for treatment of other conditions.

I believed that the company went defunct/BK back during the 07/08 crisis.
Atheric is current

https://gust.com/companies/atheric-pharmaceutical-llc
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
Current on paper maybe. They appear to only have 3 employees [at your link] and no company website. Maybe the LLC hasn't been dissolved; not quite the same as an actively operating company.
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Originally Posted By katya422
Current on paper maybe. They appear to only have 3 employees [at your link] and no company website. Maybe the LLC hasn't been dissolved; not quite the same as an actively operating company.
We discussed the filed patents earlier.

Last round of funding in 2016
https://www.crunchbase.com/organizat...pharmaceutical

He's his own LLC in this recent paper

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33833683/

Who knows.

His audience loved his interview.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
He runs Atheric Pharmaceutical

https://www.crunchbase.com/organizat...pharmaceutical

Note the contact email

It's not a hang-up. I have no skin in the game. I find it curious that people are only skeptical of one side in this mess.
I think that skepticism is misplaced. People on the right aren't opposing the matter of participation in pharmaceutical companies or drugs. Otherwise they wouldn't be supporting Ivermectin use.

They're opposing the clearly biased relationship between media, medical bureaucrats, and the major pharma companies for pushing treatments and drugs with mixed outcomes and suppressing early and alternative treatments that are proven to work but hurt their bottom line. Major companies like Gilead and Merck funded research bashing Ivermectin because they had a vested interest in pushing their new covid drugs. Bull$hit like this that was supported by media and researchers because people are on the payroll:https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-03667-0
Originally Posted By katya422
IIRC Malone *previously* had a company which was attempting to research existing generic drugs to treat conditions other than the ones that they were initially tested and approved for.

He said that the FDA was very obstructive. Instead of allowing his company to use existing safety data on the medication the FDA was insisting that they do completely new trials from scratch which would take years before they could begin trials of the generics for treatment of other conditions.

They were looking for txmts for Zika in 2016:
https://www.usciences.edu/news/2016/...d-in-plos.html

ETA: wasn't 07/08

Malone spoke about his company in the old DarkHorse podcast that he did with Steve Kirsch and Bret Weinstein. Don't know if it is available to stream.
So it wasn't even a covid medication? Then it has no bearing on the discussion whatsoever. The left and the medical industrial complex truly have no dirt on Malone that will stick.
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“Mass formation psychosis” is not an academic term recognized in the field of psychology. The phrase does not appear in the American Psychological Association (APA) Dictionary of Psychology (dictionary.apa.org/), (dictionary.apa.org/browse/m) nor does it appear in the PsycNet database of published research articles.

There are similar-sounding concepts, like ‘mass psychogenic illness,’ but the scope is relatively narrow compared to what is being proposed by the Misc's experts.

It seems the concept of a “mass psychosis” is more metaphor than science, more ideology than fact.
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Originally Posted By Critter5592
Finally had the time to listen. Great ep, although I wish he would have went in to discussion about the lab leak a little more. Already knew hospitals were corrupt as ****, but it was cool hearing a breakdown of it.
speaking of lab leaks:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pm...es/PMC8702434/



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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
“Mass formation psychosis” is not an academic term recognized in the field of psychology. The phrase does not appear in the American Psychological Association (APA) Dictionary of Psychology (dictionary.apa.org/), (dictionary.apa.org/browse/m) nor does it appear in the PsycNet database of published research articles.

There are similar-sounding concepts, like ‘mass psychogenic illness,’ but the scope is relatively narrow compared to what is being proposed by the Misc's experts.

It seems the concept of a “mass psychosis” is more metaphor than science, more ideology than fact.
Surprised you would bump this thread, especially since your gripes about the podcast are trivial at best.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.
“Mass formation psychosis” is not an academic term recognized in the field of psychology. The phrase does not appear in the American Psychological Association (APA) Dictionary of Psychology (dictionary.apa.org/), (dictionary.apa.org/browse/m) nor does it appear in the PsycNet database of published research articles.

There are similar-sounding concepts, like ‘mass psychogenic illness,’ but the scope is relatively narrow compared to what is being proposed by the Misc's experts.

It seems the concept of a “mass psychosis” is more metaphor than science, more ideology than fact.
https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2TN1RE

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In reality the term didn't originate with Malone. Mattias Desmet is the professor that, as far as I know, first started applying it to the current covid situation. The fact that the DeBoNkErS are intentionally misattributing the origin of the word is very telling.
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