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post 1653928283 01-07-2022, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Catbrah gonna Catbrah...

Terrible.
Nothing wrong with the Ruger you posted brah. But what's wrong with Aero or BCM at those price points?
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Nothing wrong with the Ruger you posted brah. But what's wrong with Aero or BCM at those price points?
Read his budget, also, try to find what you posted in-stock...
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Ruger 10/22 or Winchester wildcat (similar to 10/22 but lighter easier to clean) are great first guns especially if you are new to guns entirely .22 is a great. For 600 I would go 10/22 or similar, a cheap .22 handgun to practice and a hi-point c9 9mm (not a ccw but a cheap effective full sized 9mm) just go get started. That’ll get you 3 guns that are practical. Also you can scrap the cheap .22 pistol in favor of a savage 20 gauge pump shotgun they go for 160 at Walmart. Shotguns are the jack of all trades
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Haven't read the rest of the thread.

For personal self defence, I really like the Sig Sauer P365 .380 - I'm not too fond of Glocks. I've seen the plastic casing crack on their magazines, and in general I've just never been impressed with them.

Been awhile since I've looked into handguns, I need to go to the range again.

Edit: I've read the thread now mmmkkkkk
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Read his budget, also, try to find what you posted in-stock...
I am autism on the budget. Whoops

Although aero has stuff in stock non stop.
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
Here you go OP, $760, use code freeship1622:https://www.midwayusa.com/product/10...content=605522



Lot of optic options out there, of course you can just look for some cheap $50 flip irons or get something like a $400 red dot, but that rifle is good to go out of the box and leaves room in your budget for ammo and mags.
Can confirm, the Ruger MPR have multiple porpoises and comes with a bunch of upgrades over the regular. (Trigger, barrel, furniture, etc).
For budget red dot, a $200 HOLOSUN works just fine.

Pre-Covid price was around $600-650, for present day $760 is a dang good price.
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Originally Posted By KathleenRyan⏩
Haven't read the rest of the thread.

For personal self defence, I really like the Sig Sauer P365 .380 -I'm not too fond of Glocks. I've seen the plastic casing crack on their magazines, and in general I've just never been impressed with them.

Been awhile since I've looked into handguns, I need to go to the range again.

Edit: I've read the thread now mmmkkkkk
Glocks are the most reliable handgun platform on the planet. I have- and I'm serious here- never seen a stock Glock have a malfunction.

They may have it all resolved now with the 365, but Sig USA is a garbage tier company. They basically beta test their guns on the public. The number of people with issues on the early 365's was insane.
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A .22 is really not useful for home defense. You need something that will incapacitate a target immediately. 9mm pistol would be a good start. Make sure to get a laser dot, can be accurate and extremely useful in a night time situation. Aiming a gun and hitting a moving target isn't as simple as point and pull when adrenaline hits; a red dot helps compensate for that. Also practice gun safety, you can inadvertently kill yourself or someone else in the blink of an eye if you're not serious enough about it. Haven't seen anyone mention a carbine yet. My next firearm will be a Kel Tec Sub 2000. It is essentially a rifle in 9mm caliber that can fold in half and be placed in a backpack. Great for outdoor and camping "just in case" situations.
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I think that both AR-15 and shotguns are very versatile guns. I probably lean more towards ar dude to being able to stock up on ammo and have a higher magazine capacity. Faster to reload as well and better range. I'd say the most important thing is to buy what you can afford and then as much ammo as possible if concerned about a SHTF scenario. Ammo is the expensive part. Currently have a couple thousand rounds but would be more comfortable with 10k rounds. Also both are sufficient hinting weapons too if shtf. Both can kill any big game on north america if you shoot in the head with the AR, obviously a 12ga slug could kill a moose at close range. I prefer the AR for sure due to 300+ yard accuracy. Although shotgun would be better for smaller game. Toss up.

Ideally you want a long gun and a handgun as a side carry.

I've got a Ruger 556 MPR and a Ruger 9mm for self defense. Both very affordable guns and I do like a utilitarian Ruger. Do have other guns up to a savage .338 Lapua. But other than my 7mm rem mag, I couldn't see using a lot of those for self defence. Just not as practical.
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Glocks are the most reliable handgun platform on the planet. I have- and I'm serious here- never seen a stock Glock have a malfunction.

They may have it all resolved now with the 365, but Sig USA is a garbage tier company. They basically beta test their guns on the public. The number of people with issues on the early 365's was insane.
Truth. I love the feel of the 365 but what a scum bag company. On top of that their p320 had serious firing pin issues for years. I will never buy a Sig based on principle and the fact they're fckin unreliable. Fck them and I wish they'd go bankrupt.
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Glocks are ok but there are others that work even better.

2 words:

Heckler & Koch
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Originally Posted By LinuxJon⏩
Glocks are the most reliable handgun platform on the planet. I have- and I'm serious here- never seen a stock Glock have a malfunction.
Thank you, seeing you post in favor of Glocks is all the confirmation I need to know they'll always be trash.
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Glocks do some things really well:

1. Seamlessly transitioning magazines from full size down to subcompact
2. Shoot faster than most comparably priced/sized competitors due to lower bore axis.
3. Fit a larger handgun into a smaller area due to grip angle (which is bothersome for some individuals)
4. Have the best aftermarket support of any handgun on the planet.
5. Run reliably in stock configuration.

They do not have the best triggers, they do not have the best grips, they do not have the best barrels, but they do work every time unless you modify them. Pretty straightforward stuff.

I would take a G48 with the shield mags over a P365.

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If I only get one firearm, it would be a 16" AR-15. A suppressed SBR would get a lot of consideration, too, but that's outside your budget. The deal Ike posted looks solid. If I needed to go truly cheap, I'd watch the daily deals on Palmetto State Armory. Right now, there is an AR/shotgun combo for $700.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-...un-bundle.html

I'd rather trust my life to the Ruger MPR, but PSA guns generally seem to function well. I'd rather have a PSA than nothing, for sure.
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Originally Posted By 300Lane1⏩
Remington 870, home defense. $500ish

https://www.remarms.com/shotguns/pum...d-home-defense
Agreed, I own a Remington 870 police. This is a SBS that is awesome to shoot. Does require tax stamp and waiting for ATF to approve.

For CCW, I have either carried Glocks or Sigs. Currently have Glock 19 and Glock 23 (kept in truck). Glock 19 (9 mm), Glock 23 (40), and Glock 32 (357 sig) can all fit in the same holster. I sold my Glock 32 because I didn't like the 357 sig round. Best I can describe it is "snappy."

Should eventually get some sort of rifle. Your pistol and shotgun won't do you much good if someone comes at you with a rifle.
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A shotgun is a terrible choice. It's not 1960 anymore, there are better options if you're not shooting things that fly
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
A shotgun is a terrible choice. It's not 1960 anymore, there are better options if you're not shooting things that fly
So tiring reading that “you dont even have to aim”, just racking it will scare them off, shotguns are great for beginners etc. Low capacity, heavy recoil, pump action requires so much movement and manipulation. They are probably the worst choice for home defense. People have this hollywood perception.
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Originally Posted By lownslow⏩
So tiring reading that “you dont even have to aim”, just racking it will scare them off, shotguns are great for beginners etc. Low capacity, heavy recoil, pump action requires so much movement and manipulation. They are probably the worst choice for home defense. People have this hollywood perception.
Can’t ignore how versatile it is though. If you had one gun and there was a collapse a shotgun would not be a bad choice. One gun you can kill small game and large game, and defend yourself. Birdshot, buckshot, and slugs give you many options. His post was about a collapse not about carry or just home defense.
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Originally Posted By Fishin4gainz⏩
Can’t ignore how versatile it is though. If you had one gun and there was a collapse a shotgun would not be a bad choice. One gun you can kill small game and large game, and defend yourself. Birdshot, buckshot, and slugs give you many options. His post was about a collapse not about carry or just home defense.
It suffers the primary problem of a shotgun which is that the configuration most useful for shooting things in the sky is the least useful for personal protection, and an end-user is simply unlikely to spend enough time with it to become proficient.
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Originally Posted By gluon⏩
or you could get a real mans gun, heavier bullet with ~2x the velocity of the outdated 50AE

A revolver is always more badass…but clip > revolver in home defense. Could unload twice the number of rounds on you in half the time, srs. If it’s 3am, pitch black, and I’m awaken out of a deep sleep, you’re not going to be threading the needle with shots.
Originally Posted By MattyMiscer⏩
It literally says ".44 MAG" on the gun, just FYI
The Mark XIX has interchangeable barrels…can shoot .44 as well as 50 cal. Same gun, different setup.
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Originally Posted By TallTigerTwo⏩
[A revolver is always more badass…but clip > revolver in home defense. Could unload twice the number of rounds on you in half the time, srs. If it’s 3am, pitch black, and I’m awaken out of a deep sleep, you’re not going to be threading the needle with shots.



The Mark XIX has interchangeable barrels…can shoot .44 as well as 50 cal. Same gun, different setup.
-Self Defense against people
-50 Cal Handguns

Pick One
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Also, the best gun is one that has a suppressor on it:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...hp?t=180587213
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Originally Posted By Ikeman83⏩
-Self Defense against people
-50 Cal Handguns

Pick One
Those choices aren’t mutually exclusive. This makes no sense. If you think you can best a 50 cal, then by all means…jump in front of one and see what happens.
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Originally Posted By AWillis⏩
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Shall not be Infringed. FUK CHINA.
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Originally Posted By TallTigerTwo⏩
Those choices aren’t mutually exclusive. This makes no sense. If you think you can best a 50 cal, then by all means…jump in front of one and see what happens.
Capacity beats caliber above 9mm.
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Originally Posted By PepperedAngus⏩
just what you see, pal.
Great line
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I agree with Ike that for the budget you have the Ruger AR556 is the best bet. Get that, some PMAGS, ammo, and if you need a budget optic get a Sig Romeo 5. Obviously not going to be on Trijicon or EoTech level, but it beats iron sights.

My SHTF gun is a Daniel Defense MK18, suppressed. A suppressor is a very overlooked tool for a self defense weapon.
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