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Are we really defending this ugly, old dolt?
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Ooops. No more royal protections, fighting the case as "a private citizen" RIP lol
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Originally Posted By NewO35⏩
Ooops. No more royal protections, fighting the case as "a private citizen" RIP lol
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/01/13/quee...e-citizen.html
That's just so she won't be responsible for his debt if he loses the lawsuit.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
That's just so she won't be responsible for his debt if he loses the lawsuit.
UK taxpayer pays for them anyway.
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Originally Posted By Redfish225⏩
I wish everyone would just take a few steps back and see what we’ve become. No morals, no values, so self respect and no common sense.
Thanks liberals and your "it's not a slippery slope" attitude about degenerate behavior.
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Amazing that anybody believes the ninth in line to the throne is just another citizen. Brenda will do anything to stop this overshadowing her platinum jubilee celebrations-if that woman asks for 50 million she will give it to her to make this go away.
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So much chit happened via Epstein , Maxwell and this silly cnt are just the distractions from the real issues, Clinton, Trump, Gates etc
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3 pages and no one can say what he has done wrong..

cliffs

she was 17
she was in London
aoc is 16

end of. Its not assault, its not even illegal. Complete piffle.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
3 pages and no one can say what he has done wrong..

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she was 17
she was in London
aoc is 16

end of. Its not assault, its not even illegal. Complete piffle.
Is she from London or was she trafficked to London from a place where the age of consent is significantly higher?

She's a minor in the USA and taking a minor across state lines for sex is felony sex trafficking.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceo...20state%20line
In addition, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2421 – 2423 criminalize a variety of activities pertaining to the prostitution of children. For example, Section 2421 and 2423(a) make it a crime to transport an individual or a minor across state lines for the purpose of prostitution or any other illegal sexual activity. Unlike 18 U.S.C. § 1591, both of those statutes do require proof that the victim crossed a state line. If a minor is transported across state lines in violation of Section 2423(a), the penalty is not less than 10 years in prison, up to life.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Is she from London or was she trafficked to London from a place where the age of consent is significantly higher?

She's a minor in the USA and taking a minor across state lines for sex is felony sex trafficking.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceo...20state%20line
In addition, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2421 – 2423 criminalize a variety of activities pertaining to the prostitution of children. For example, Section 2421 and 2423(a) make it a crime to transport an individual or a minor across state lines for the purpose of prostitution or any other illegal sexual activity. Unlike 18 U.S.C. § 1591, both of those statutes do require proof that the victim crossed a state line. If a minor is transported across state lines in violation of Section 2423(a), the penalty is not less than 10 years in prison, up to life.
Don’t engage with the peedo. He will now post some dribble about his hero Andy not being aware of the situation, despite being good buddies with Epstein.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Is she from London or was she trafficked to London from a place where the age of consent is significantly higher?

She's a minor in the USA and taking a minor across state lines for sex is felony sex trafficking.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceo...20state%20line
In addition, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2421 – 2423 criminalize a variety of activities pertaining to the prostitution of children. For example, Section 2421 and 2423(a) make it a crime to transport an individual or a minor across state lines for the purpose of prostitution or any other illegal sexual activity. Unlike 18 U.S.C. § 1591, both of those statutes do require proof that the victim crossed a state line. If a minor is transported across state lines in violation of Section 2423(a), the penalty is not less than 10 years in prison, up to life.
How does that apply to Andrew though? The ones doing the sex trafficking were Epstein & Maxwell-but the US has no jurisdiction in the UK & even if there is a law in the UK, was there one twenty years ago? You would also have to prove that Andrew knew she was under the age of 18 & had been trafficked for sexual purposes.
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Andrew will take the fall

There's a reason they haven't thrown anyone else under the bus. Andrew was the only one who wasn't important enough to protect and they tossed him to the plebs to placate us into thinking were getting some justice.

People so important Epstein was killed to protect their names. So important this trial was adjourned early. Who the fuark are they!
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Originally Posted By PenguinWarrior⏩
Andrew will take the fall

There's a reason they haven't thrown anyone else under the bus. Andrew was the only one who wasn't important enough to protect and they tossed him to the plebs to placate us into thinking were getting some justice.

People so important Epstein was killed to protect their names. So important this trial was adjourned early. Who the fuark are they!
Come on dude-the names have been out there for years, there was nothing to protect. Queen isn't letting her favourite son overshadow her or bring total shame on the family. Epstein roped himself because the reality hit home-unlike his prior jailing-where he was allowed out most of the day to molest more women/girls & just went back to jail at night to sleep, now he was a 66 year old guy who knew he was going to spend the rest of his days in jail, with no access to women/children. While conspiracy theories are exciting the reality is nearly always more mundane-a sad old pervert & kiddie fiddler knew his game was up, his money & status could no longer buy favours & rather than rot away in a jail cell for the next 20-25 years with no access to little girls decided to off himself.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
Is she from London or was she trafficked to London from a place where the age of consent is significantly higher?

She's a minor in the USA and taking a minor across state lines for sex is felony sex trafficking.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceo...20state%20line
In addition, 18 U.S.C. §§ 2421 – 2423 criminalize a variety of activities pertaining to the prostitution of children. For example, Section 2421 and 2423(a) make it a crime to transport an individual or a minor across state lines for the purpose of prostitution or any other illegal sexual activity. Unlike 18 U.S.C. § 1591, both of those statutes do require proof that the victim crossed a state line. If a minor is transported across state lines in violation of Section 2423(a), the penalty is not less than 10 years in prison, up to life.
I don’t think Andrew is being accused of sex trafficking? He’s accused afaik of having sex with a willing prostitute woman of a legal age.

Whether she was trafficked or not is another matter. Anyone who’s whoremaxxed would be guilt of the same crime then. Nobody truly knows how the pros got to the country. Think about those romanian and Russian women in red lights district Amsterdam. How about cam girls online, many of which are trafficked?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
3 pages and no one can say what he has done wrong..

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she was 17
she was in London
aoc is 16

end of. Its not assault, its not even illegal. Complete piffle.
why is this guy getting judged in the US if this happened in the UK, wtf?
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
3 pages and no one can say what he has done wrong..

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she was 17
she was in London
aoc is 16

end of. Its not assault, its not even illegal. Complete piffle.
Reputation and a Liar

he has denied something and fckd a trafficked girl ...and who knows what else
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
Reputation and a Liar

he has denied something and fckd a trafficked girl ...and who knows what else
Well, there is no evidence of anything else as of yet. Reputation-he has long been seen as a joke royal & an embarrassment like Edward. You have to prove he knew she was being trafficked & again what laws were in place 20 years back? You cannot hold people liable legally in 2022 for laws that didn't exist in 2001 & I doubt there was anything much about sex trafficking in law over here back then. Everybody knows he is a liar-the interview he did with the BBC was excruciating, just like the lies Boris tells about everything.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
Reputation and a Liar

he has denied something and fckd a trafficked girl ...and who knows what else
you can get sued in a foreign jurisdiction for lying and having a bad repuatation?
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Originally Posted By bigdownunder⏩
Don’t engage with the peedo. He will now post some dribble about his hero Andy not being aware of the situation, despite being good buddies with Epstein.
Im sure he saw himself as a friend of Epstein, and Im sure that Epstein had complete contempt for Andrew. Born to privelege, and thick as two short planks. Same as Trump. No way he would have told either of them about the trafficking, he was trying to set them up not scare them away
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
I don’t think Andrew is being accused of sex trafficking? He’s accused afaik of having sex with a willing prostitute woman of a legal age.

Whether she was trafficked or not is another matter. Anyone who’s whoremaxxed would be guilt of the same crime then. Nobody truly knows how the pros got to the country. Think about those romanian and Russian women in red lights district Amsterdam. How about cam girls online, many of which are trafficked?
If they can prove he was a knowing participant of a peedo ring that was trafficking girls internationally I'm sure that he will be charged. Transportation of minors across state lines and statutory rape have long been crimes in the USA. That's how they put Bill Cosby away.

I'd imagine they just need a little evidence that Andrew knew what was going on. And with Ghislain now guilty I'm sure they'll pressure her into talking for reduced sentencing to put the other members of the kiddy diddly ring away.

Even though it was a USA crime Andrew can still be charged in absentia and become a wanted man like Roman Polanski was for decades. If he moves to France you know what's up since France won't extradite known kiddy diddlers.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
Im sure he saw himself as a friend of Epstein, and Im sure that Epstein had complete contempt for Andrew. Born to privelege, and thick as two short planks. Same as Trump. No way he would have told either of them about the trafficking, he was trying to set them up not scare them away
well apart from the fact that Andy stayed friends with Epstein AFTER he was convicted and did time for sex trafficking he knew exactly what the score was


Also the fact that the Royal family has effectively disowned him show's his real predicament


now he hasnt been found guilty of anything .............................yet.................. .
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
well apart from the fact that Andy stayed friends with Epstein AFTER he was convicted and did time for sex trafficking he knew exactly what the score was


Also the fact that the Royal family has effectively disowned him show's his real predicament


now he hasnt been found guilty of anything .............................yet.................. .
his first conviction was for procuring, not trafficking..
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
If they can prove he was a knowing participant of a peedo ring that was trafficking girls internationally I'm sure that he will be charged. Transportation of minors across state lines and statutory rape have long been crimes in the USA. That's how they put Bill Cosby away.

I'd imagine they just need a little evidence that Andrew knew what was going on. And with Ghislain now guilty I'm sure they'll pressure her into talking for reduced sentencing to put the other members of the kiddy diddly ring away.

Even though it was a USA crime Andrew can still be charged in absentia and become a wanted man like Roman Polanski was for decades. If he moves to France you know what's up since France won't extradite known kiddy diddlers.
1) that’s a hard thing to prove
2) feels like they’re going after him because of his status and he’s gonna be the fall guy whilst the real criminals get away with it? Think about it, do we go around prosecuting Joe bloggs because he had sex with a pro who has a pimp and no doubt the pimp has a hand in forcing her into that role?

All he is, is a participant, a customer. If you’re gonna go after him, go after every single person ever that engaged in webcam sex, escorts, pros etc. A huge portion of these sex workers are there against their will, all over the world. The real criminals are the ones who kidnap or coerce these women into these situations, not the customers. You can judge them on their moral character for engaging in it in the first place, but they’re far away from the crime.

This like like arresting a guy for buying coke, rather than The people supplying coke at every level of the supply chain.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
his first conviction was for procuring, not trafficking..
splitting hairs now fella and you know it, did you watch the Emily Maitliss interview? LOL what a stupid cnt deserves everything he gets
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
well apart from the fact that Andy stayed friends with Epstein AFTER he was convicted and did time for sex trafficking he knew exactly what the score was


Also the fact that the Royal family has effectively disowned him show's his real predicament


now he hasnt been found guilty of anything .............................yet.................. .
People are not their friends though. I have friends who’s sold drugs, it doesn’t mean I approve of it or would do it myself. People do what they do, let god or the law deal with them.

And of course the royal family distanced themselves. The monarchy is hanging by a thread. They try to keep out of way as much as possible in order to hold on to their royal status, one wrong move and we could see the royals abolished.
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Originally Posted By samsbolton⏩
you can get sued in a foreign jurisdiction for lying and having a bad repuatation?
Yeah, Trump had better not came back over here again if so.
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Originally Posted By Kev1972⏩
If they can prove he was a knowing participant of a peedo ring that was trafficking girls internationally I'm sure that he will be charged. Transportation of minors across state lines and statutory rape have long been crimes in the USA. That's how they put Bill Cosby away.

I'd imagine they just need a little evidence that Andrew knew what was going on. And with Ghislain now guilty I'm sure they'll pressure her into talking for reduced sentencing to put the other members of the kiddy diddly ring away.

Even though it was a USA crime Andrew can still be charged in absentia and become a wanted man like Roman Polanski was for decades. If he moves to France you know what's up since France won't extradite known kiddy diddlers.
Again, I fail to see how he as a British subject could be charged with sex trafficking in the US, for something that happened in the UK. The UK government will never extradite him & he doesn't need to go to France-he can just do an Assange & stay at a royal residence-no member of the Royal Family can be arrested at or near to one.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
well apart from the fact that Andy stayed friends with Epstein AFTER he was convicted and did time for sex trafficking he knew exactly what the score was


Also the fact that the Royal family has effectively disowned him show's his real predicament


now he hasnt been found guilty of anything .............................yet.................. .
They have not disowned him-this is for show. He has been stripped of some meaningless titles & will not be attending events. He is still a Prince, still ninth in line to the throne, still Brenda's favourite son & still stinking rich.
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Originally Posted By plsmire⏩
1) that’s a hard thing to prove
2) feels like they’re going after him because of his status and he’s gonna be the fall guy whilst the real criminals get away with it? Think about it, do we go around prosecuting Joe bloggs because he had sex with a pro who has a pimp and no doubt the pimp has a hand in forcing her into that role?

All he is, is a participant, a customer. If you’re gonna go after him, go after every single person ever that engaged in webcam sex, escorts, pros etc. A huge portion of these sex workers are there against their will, all over the world. The real criminals are the ones who kidnap or coerce these women into these situations, not the customers. You can judge them on their moral character for engaging in it in the first place, but they’re far away from the crime.

This like like arresting a guy for buying coke, rather than The people supplying coke at every level of the supply chain.
It's not hard to prove if they have a victim and Maxwell already convicted.

This isn't a John going to a suk fuk shop. If they wanted to go after a wealthy powerful man just for that they had video of billionaire Robert Kraft getting a hand job at a strip mall rub n tug.

This is an organized high profile kiddy diddly ring of which it's pretty apparent Prince Andrew was a card carrying member.
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Originally Posted By AncientYouth⏩
splitting hairs now fella and you know it, did you watch the Emily Maitliss interview? LOL what a stupid cnt deserves everything he gets
No idea who advised him to do that-but they are probably still locked up in The Tower Of London. If he had just kept his mouth shut this likely would have gone away to some degree-the fuss would have died down, especially as Covid was right around the corner & Brexit was still raging.
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